Idle issue

2LZ · 05-28-2010, 12:34 AM

O.k. folks....
Got an 'X-Moto Lifanoid' like so many others here....Honda clone unit. I swapped it for my Hensim 150DB a while back, as some may recall.
Been running great after all the "usual CB fixes"...(valves, carb, breather, muffler)....then....I started having this idle miss intermitently happen. Not all the time. Just sometimes.
It would do it when I first fired it....then after a heat up and shut down...would idle perfectly. Sometimes it wouldn't do it for weeks! A PERFECT idle....even cold!
Mind you....with how bad the weather has been here and trying to ride it 'off road only'....I don't have a lot of miles yet. I just got it a couple months back and it has about 100 dirt trail miles on it, so it's not even broke in.....though I have changed the oil.

I changed a plug from the stock China unit to an NGK and it seemed to clear it up.....then it started again. I put in another plug....same thing. I took out the coil and clipped the ends of the coil wire and re-screwed them in like I saw posted here....same problem.
It's been getting progressively worse over the last week. Now...it will actually kill the bike at idle.

You spank the throttle and it revs GREAT!

You take it out for a ride under load....not a problem. It's idle and 'no load' lower rpm's. "Poppity-pop!" "Grrrrr.....POP! Grrrrr......POP!"

Anyone had this happen? I have my CDI unit on in my lunch box now to take to my CB guy and see if he has a replacement.

I'm hoping it's just a matter of miles! 8O

Weldangrind · 05-28-2010, 12:54 AM

Is it a 200? If so, maybe a better carb is in order. We Beast owners have purchased Mikuni 30mm carbs to replace the crappy stockers (although I haven't actually installed mine yet :oops: ). They really woke up the 200 Lifanoid Beasts.

We bought them at www.giobikes.com at auction for cheap. I'm not sure if they would ship to the States, or if you could find one locally for cheap. If not, one of us could ship one to you.

All of this assumes that you don't have a CDI or other electrical problem.

TurboT · 05-28-2010, 01:15 AM

To expand on Mr. W&G's points, I do believe Gio can ship parts to the US, just not full quads.

They do have the performance CDI's for cheap on auction as well, (mine cost a whopping $14 delivered) and I think they'd work on the motorbikes as well.

Just some options.

SpudRider · 05-28-2010, 01:41 AM

I suspect you might have a bad CDI unit, 2LZ.

You can buy a replacement CDI unit on eBay, or from a variety of other vendors. Check some of the recent posts in this forum regarding failed CDI units.

Spud

2LZ · 05-28-2010, 07:01 PM

New CDI! Viola! Fixed!

Thanks guys!

SpudRider · 05-28-2010, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 2LZ

New CDI! Viola! Fixed!

Thanks guys!

The CDI Goblin strikes again!

I am glad you got the problem fixed, 2LZ.

I recommend you keep a spare CDI unit on hand. Besides having a replacement handy, the spare CDI unit is a great help in troubleshooting electrical problems.

Spud

2LZ · 05-29-2010, 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpudRider

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2LZ

New CDI! Viola! Fixed!

Thanks guys!

The CDI Goblin strikes again!

I am glad you got the problem fixed, 2LZ.

I recommend you keep a spare CDI unit on hand. Besides having a replacement handy, the spare CDI unit is a great help in troubleshooting electrical problems.

Spud

Great idea Spud!....by the way....he gave me my old one back. Marked it 'bad' and handed it to me. It still 'works'....just has an idle problem. It's staying in my tool kit for a "have to get home" back up!

I did a write-up on him in the dealer section. Figured he needed some mention. :wink: Good guy.

05-28-2010, 12:34 AM	#1
2LZ Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Volcano, Ca Posts: 7,092	Idle issue O.k. folks.... Got an 'X-Moto Lifanoid' like so many others here....Honda clone unit. I swapped it for my Hensim 150DB a while back, as some may recall. Been running great after all the "usual CB fixes"...(valves, carb, breather, muffler)....then....I started having this idle miss intermitently happen. Not all the time. Just sometimes. It would do it when I first fired it....then after a heat up and shut down...would idle perfectly. Sometimes it wouldn't do it for weeks! A PERFECT idle....even cold! Mind you....with how bad the weather has been here and trying to ride it 'off road only'....I don't have a lot of miles yet. I just got it a couple months back and it has about 100 dirt trail miles on it, so it's not even broke in.....though I have changed the oil. I changed a plug from the stock China unit to an NGK and it seemed to clear it up.....then it started again. I put in another plug....same thing. I took out the coil and clipped the ends of the coil wire and re-screwed them in like I saw posted here....same problem. It's been getting progressively worse over the last week. Now...it will actually kill the bike at idle. You spank the throttle and it revs GREAT! You take it out for a ride under load....not a problem. It's idle and 'no load' lower rpm's. "Poppity-pop!" "Grrrrr.....POP! Grrrrr......POP!" Anyone had this happen? I have my CDI unit on in my lunch box now to take to my CB guy and see if he has a replacement. I'm hoping it's just a matter of miles! 8O __________________ "Light a fire for a man, and you heat him for a day. Light a man on fire, and you heat him for the rest of his life." 2007 Suzuki DRZ400S (SM convert) 2009 Q Link XP 200 1967 BSA B25 250cc Starfire 2022 Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 2023 Royal Enfield Scram 411 1948 Royal Enfield Model G 350
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05-28-2010, 12:54 AM	#2
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Is it a 200? If so, maybe a better carb is in order. We Beast owners have purchased Mikuni 30mm carbs to replace the crappy stockers (although I haven't actually installed mine yet :oops: ). They really woke up the 200 Lifanoid Beasts. We bought them at www.giobikes.com at auction for cheap. I'm not sure if they would ship to the States, or if you could find one locally for cheap. If not, one of us could ship one to you. All of this assumes that you don't have a CDI or other electrical problem. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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05-28-2010, 01:41 AM	#4
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	I suspect you might have a bad CDI unit, 2LZ. You can buy a replacement CDI unit on eBay, or from a variety of other vendors. Check some of the recent posts in this forum regarding failed CDI units. Spud __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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05-28-2010, 07:01 PM	#5
2LZ Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Volcano, Ca Posts: 7,092	New CDI! Viola! Fixed! Thanks guys! __________________ "Light a fire for a man, and you heat him for a day. Light a man on fire, and you heat him for the rest of his life." 2007 Suzuki DRZ400S (SM convert) 2009 Q Link XP 200 1967 BSA B25 250cc Starfire 2022 Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 2023 Royal Enfield Scram 411 1948 Royal Enfield Model G 350
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05-28-2010, 01:15 AM	#3
TurboT Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Surrey, B.C., Canada Posts: 2,185	To expand on Mr. W&G's points, I do believe Gio can ship parts to the US, just not full quads. They do have the performance CDI's for cheap on auction as well, (mine cost a whopping $14 delivered) and I think they'd work on the motorbikes as well. Just some options.
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