06-17-2021, 06:59 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Camp Hill, PA
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Are you STILL waiting on a Venom X22R???
Hi Everyone,
Today I got another response from Venom MotorSports regarding the Venom X22R I'm waiting on Customs to clear in California. Here is the response I got from them: ================================== Hi Joe, Thank you for your email; and we sincerely apologize for these massive delays. We truly appreciate your patience in this matter; and it seems the X22R 250cc motorcycles are still held at customs, and there may be some issues with the "tags/labels" on the bike that may not comply with FMVSS. We are currently awaiting a final decision; however in the meantime, the factory has begun to produce a new shipment for us with the corrected labels. Unfortunately this shipment is still in production and will need at least another 6-8 weeks to complete production. We're keeping our fingers crossed for this current shipment at the border now; and hoping the Department of Transportation (DOT) and National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) will allow this one to go through and we can update the labels/tags manually. We'll keep you posted on this matter and once again we are sorry you are stuck in the middle of this. Keep in mind you are always entitled to a full refund at any time, however hopefully we can have this bike delivered to you instead. Please let me know if you have any questions in the meantime, Vince H. Fulfilment CentreVenom Motorsports Canada / USA 1-855-984-1612 www.VenomMotorsportsUSA.com ================================== Oh well, hurry up and wait... I'll submit anything else I get from Venom MotorSports if/when I get anything else... Sorry I couldn't have any better news guys... Take care and ride safe... Joe...  |
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06-17-2021, 08:07 PM
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Join Date: May 2015
Location: Houston area
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The bikes are being detained by customs not because there is something mechanically wrong with them, but because they have the wrong decals stuck to them?
-Sometimes it feels like customs is run by people blindly following some federal checklist, rather than using their experience and product knowledge to keep the goods flowing.
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06-18-2021, 04:53 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Wisconsin, USA
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Im still waiting for my boom vader gen 2 from kronik racing, I ordered mine april 11th. Was told late may early june they should be in when i pre ordered mine. I contacted the owner just asking and was told china shipping is all messed up right now and they should be in in the next couple of weeks, I dont know any of the details at the moment. Really hope I get mine soon
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06-19-2021, 03:08 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2017
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I work for a company that deals with customs on a daily basis, and those guys don't give a f@#$ what they are holding from whom. If it doesn't meet the rules, it doesn't ship, plain and simple. Zero critical thought is used. |
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06-19-2021, 02:44 PM
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06-20-2021, 02:18 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Camp Hill, PA
Posts: 113
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Waiting for an X22R bike???
Hi Everyone,
After I got this reply from Venom MotorSports it ocured to me that the Customs workers are just like MOST government workers who are taught to do ONE THING best. They are taught and conditioned to "CYA" and I have to admit, that they are VERY GOOD at it. I honestly do not expect that Customs will grant Venom MotorSports a waiver to approve the bikes OR reissue any "NEW" titles with the correct information on them. They will fail anything that doesn't "CYA" with glory. I honestly expect that I (and others) will just have to wait on the next "CORRECTED - AND LEGAL" bikes to be shipped from China despite all the cajoling and protests that will follow. After all, they can't "CYA" if they give ANYONE a free pass on the "WRONG" labels... Yes I am frustrated as hell, as I am sure others are too. We want our bikes, and we want them now. Not tomorrow or next week, or next month or whenever... We want the pleasure to ride them in the summer months, not in the dead of winter as the snow falls... Again, sorry for my rant... Take care everyone and ride safe... Joe... |
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07-01-2021, 01:18 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Camp Hill, PA
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Another Update on the X22R's #01...
Hi Everyone,
I just sent another E-Mail to Venom MotorSports to see if there were any further updates on WHEN the X22R would (POSSIBLY) be released from Customs for shipment, or IF they they were going to force Venom MotorSports to wait on another (NEW) shipment from China... =============================== This is the E-Mail I sent them: =============================== Hi Vince, It's been awhile since you last contacted me about the X22R's, and I wanted to see whether or not there has been ANY updates on when they might clear Customs (or if I ((AND OTHERS)) will be forced to wait on the second shipment) from China with the corrected labels. I kind of assume that the Customs agency has not granted you the authority to reissue the corrected items here that were mislabeled from China, and have forced you to await the second shipment (with the correct information on them) from China. I honestly did not expect Customs to bend their rules for anyone, and would have been EXTREMELY SURPRISED if they had done so. If this is the case, do you have any NEW estimates on when, or how long it will take for the bike to arrive in Canada (or in California???) and WHEN I might expect to see them arrive at my door??? Sorry to be such a bother to you, but as you might expect, I'm kind of filled with anticipation for getting the bike and riding it... Thanks again for your help... Joe... ================================ The E-Mail reply I got: ================================ Hi Joe, Thanks for your email; and yes I understand exactly where you are coming from, and you do not need to apologize for that. I would be doing the same thing; the anticipation is crazy! I had a chance to look into this, and although the Customs Agents work so fast (kidding), I am very doubtful they will be releasing this shipment. If we're forced to wait for the next shipment to complete production and arrive at our warehouse in California, I would estimate this to arrive in the beginning of September. Production will need approximately another 6 weeks to complete, and approx. 2-4 weeks delivery to arrive from the factory in China to our warehouse in Anaheim, CA. Crazy... I understand this means the whole summer season is gone; if there is any other model you'd be interested in, please let me know and I can work out the best discount available on it and have you riding before summer ends. The KPR200 is arriving in about 2 weeks in case this one interests you: https://www.venommotorsportsusa.com/...torcycle-lf200 If you prefer to wait for the X22R 250cc, we really appreciate your business, and even though everything has increased dramatically in price this year, we will not be raising the price on you when the new stock arrives, you will be locked in at that price. Let me know your thoughts. Vince H. Fulfilment CentreVenom Motorsports Canada / USA 1-855-984-1612 www.VenomMotorsportsUSA.com =============================== And there you have it... =============================== SEPTEMBER !?!?!?! Shit... Damn Covid... Now I know what you're thinking... Get the KPR-200 and be happy... But the problem is that there are both good points AND bad points (at least in my mind) concerning each bike. And they are: X22R's GOOD POINTS X22R - Value... $2399 vs $3199... $800 less... X22R - Dual headlights AND dual running lights... X22R - Dual front Disk Brakes... VS a single... X22R - Air cooled... This I like... X22R - A Bigger engine = More power AND speed... X22R's BAD POINTS X22R - 5 speed transmission - Give us a 6 speed... KPR-200's GOOD POINTS KPR-200 - 6 speed transmission (vs 5 speed)... KPR-200 - Water cooled (but I prefer Air Cooled)... KPR-200's BAD POINTS KPR-200 - Value... $3199 vs $2399... $800 more... KPR-200 - Smaller engine size... Less speed... KPR-200 - Water cooled... More things to go wrong... ============================== And this is the FINAL topper... I CANNOT afford the $3199... PLUS... I've already spent around (an additional) $600+ on accessories (AND PARTS) for the X22R... MOST of them that CANNOT be returned (or POSSIBLY used on the KPR-200)... This sucks... P.S. Sorry I don't have better news guys... Looks like I'll just have to wait on the new shipment......... |
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07-01-2021, 10:19 AM
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You have way more patients than I do. I would of said heck with the X22R and taken a Ghost than miss a whole summer of riding. The new Red one looks sweet. Didn't they offer you a free upgrade t the Ghost? As far as some of the stuff you ordered already you could sell to other members on here that have the X22R.
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07-01-2021, 12:05 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2021
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You are more disciplined than I am. I'd have been scrambling on how to get something to ride. Discussing the Ghost may be the way to go, given its availability.
As I think about it, I'm wondering if this may be why Venom's pricing jumped toward the middle of last month? Recovering losses from importation issues?
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07-01-2021, 02:14 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Camp Hill, PA
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Forced to wait on the Venom X22R...
Hi Jerry and everyone else,
I appreciate the condolences, but in all honesty I'm forced to wait on the X22R. I have NO OTHER CHOICE as I cannot afford another bike. Plain and simple... I have to admit that Venom MotorSport's was extremely generous (not only to me, but everyone else). Their past offer to give others a choice of a FREE Ghost OR the automatic motorcycle (not sure what it's called) as a FREE alternative was very tempting and I'm sure others took advantage of it and grabbed whatever they wanted. I say good luck to them and ride safe... My problem was that NONE of those other bikes held any interest for me. I don't want an automatic nor do I want a bobber. In all honesty, the only other bike I had any interest in, was the Hyosung model GT250R. But that was WAY OUT OF my price range... Yes I could resell the accessories I purchased (probably at a loss). But why bother. Like the old saying goes. "I made my bed, now lie in it..." Thanks to an armed robber (that happened recently) I can no longer work as I suffered a stroke sometime during the robbery and have extreme pain in my back whenever I stand for long periods. He got 15 years by the way, which means he'll be out in 7 1/2 years... He not only robbed me of working for another 5 years, but the greatest thing he took from me was the ability to read music. I've been playing music since I was around 5 (classically trained, by the way) and it was shortly after the robbery that I discovered (by accident) that I could no longer read sheet music which also led my doctors to discover that I had had a stroke. It seems that I only have 1 artery supplying blood to my brain instead of the 2. I guess you could say I now have half a brain. I had originally planned to work for another 5 years to try and increase my retirement funds (I'm 70 now, by the way). But that robber ruined my plans and I was forced to retire earlier than I had planned on, which also means that I have LESS MONEY to play with... I say LESS MONEY as a joke, as it's more like NO MONEY for ANY non-essentials... I really cannot afford a car (what with insurance and everything else) and this bike was a CHEAP alternative for a car to take me to my doctors appointments, or food shopping, and/or fishing. And I refuse to beg as this was something I have NEVER DONE... I know, "Pride goeth before the fall..." But pride is all I have left... So thanks Jerry (and everyone else) for the kind suggestions and all the help that you've provided now and in the past... I appreciate it and am very greatful for everything... At least I have a kind neighbor that has allowed me to store the bike in her garage for the winter months (plus I'll have some cover while I make any modifications I need or want to the bike)... Thanks again guys... Take care and ride safe... Joe... |
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07-01-2021, 02:52 PM
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To be honest with you, the Ghost makes a much better commuter. Large saddle bags for plenty of storage. More upright position while driving. That's why I replace the X22R with the Ghost. I had issues with arthritis in my wrist that kept me from riding long distance. The full windshield is nice for the winter time and easy to remove during the warmer weather. I'm not sure what extras you bought for your X22R. They share the same engine and carb.
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07-01-2021, 06:02 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2021
Location: New Jersey
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I share your views on the automatic. I’ve had a few mopeds that I’ve bought on the cheap and restored and got running. Both had big bore kits and were fast for what they were, but I felt less connected to them because I felt that the automatic made for a somewhat passive riding experience. Needless to say, those bikes got sold to happy owners who enjoy them.
We all like what we like. If you feel compelled to wait for that X22R and that is what your heart is set on, the day it comes will be even more special. I hope this all gets sorted out for you soon.
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07-04-2021, 10:41 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Camp Hill, PA
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Question about the X22R???
Hey Jerry,
I've been looking at some of the things that I need to do to get the X22R "Street Legal" before I get it, and I discovered that PA bikes have to be inspected. Who knew??? I've also been looking at some of the MODS that aren't required (but that I want to change and/or add)... Anyway, I was kind of wondering about removing the CAT on the exhaust system (so I can get more power)... Do you think that IF I removed it, would it pass the inspection or should I just leave it alone??? I do plan to get it inspected BEFORE I do any type of Exhaust Mods, so at least that way it'll pass. At least those are my plans... So what do you think??? Should I do it??? Thanks and ride safe... Joe... |
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07-05-2021, 08:17 AM
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Join Date: May 2013
Location: finger lakes NY
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If the PA inspections are anything like NY motorcycle inspections, if it has tread on the tires, lights and a horn it gets the sticker... mine has been decatted since day one, they dont even know, sliced the pipe open, pulled the cat out, welded it right back up...
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07-20-2021, 05:10 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Camp Hill, PA
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Latest update on the Venom X22R's (07-20-21)
Hi Everyone,
Here is the latest update I got from VenomMotorsports. On June 16th, I sent them this E-Mail: ============================ Hi Vince, I'm writing to see if there has been ANY changes in the Customs decision to deny entry of the X22R's (and everything else) in the last shipment, and them forcing you to wait on a new shipment. Also, are there any changes in when you might expect the new shipment to arrive? Sorry to be a pain in the ass, but I was just wondering if anything new has happened... Take care... Joe... ============================ Here's their reply: ============================ Hi Joe, Thanks for your email. The decision with Customs is still pending and we have not received a final answer yet. The petition to have the bikes released has already been submitted, and we are now awaiting a response from them. Keeping our fingers crossed. The new batch of 2021 Venom X22R 250cc Motorcycles are still in production however they are expected to be completed production by next month, and arriving hopefully in the beginning of September. Let me know if you have any other questions in the meantime. Vince H. Fulfilment CentreVenom Motorsports Canada / USA 1-855-984-1612 www.VenomMotorsportsUSA.com ============================ Hi Vince,My response... ============================ I was beginning to wonder if maybe the people at Customs packaged you up in a crate and marked the crate "RETURN TO SENDER" just to get rid of you... Anyway, thanks for the update. I just wish it was better news, but in all honesty, I do not expect Customs to allow you to correct the errors on the paperwork. I think they will just be bureaucrats and CYA as much as possible. I fear I'll (or I guess I should say WE) will just have to wait on the next shipment. Hopefully, it'll have the correct information with the shipment... That would be just what we need... Another foul up... Thanks for the update... Joe... ============================ And there you have it... September... Oh well, another year shot to hell... Take care and ride safe everyone... Joe... Last edited by Joe Schutts; 07-20-2021 at 05:24 PM. Reason: ERRORS |
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