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Old 05-29-2016, 10:40 AM   #1
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Hawk Exhaust HACK Mod: De-Cat and Spark Arrester

I decided to mod the exhaust on the Hawk. It is really restrictive and there is not a lot of aftermarket exhaust systems that work for this bike. I know of 2 brands but they do not line up correctly and sit lower than they should.

First Thing I did was remove the spark arrester and cut off the plate in the back of it with a cut off tool and replace it with a screen to improve the flow a little bit.

2nd was the cat.
I removed the header pipe, its bolted to the head (2 14mm nuts) and muffler(10mm bolt clamp).

Once removed I used a cut off tool to cut it directly in the middle of the cat.

The cat was really restrictive and held a lot of heat in the exhaust. To remove the cat material I used a 3/8 drill bit to drilled in the center and worked my way up in size. The metal will twist around the drill bit and pull off the pipe nicely. The key is to go up in drill bit sizes and work around in the pipe and the metal will come out easily. Use needle nose pliers to pull off any remaining metal and or a flathead.

Once the pipe is cleaned out of the cat material, bolt back to the bike and use the heat shield as your alignment guide.

Weld a bead on there so it holds, then remove and finish welding around.

(Welding tip:make sure you use a shallow penetrating rod if your arc welding like me. I was anxious to do this and used whatever rods I had at home, which was a 6011 and this will melt a hole in the pipe! Use a rod like a 7014, or stripe down the pipe to bare metal and use a 6013. I used 6013 which is for clean metal and the exhaust pipe has a coating on it, ended up giving me slag holes. Im not a pro welder either, I can weld, just not pretty!)

After you weld all the way around, check for leaks by putting the welded section in water and blowing into the pipe. Alternatively you can coat it with gas leak solution and look for bubbles after blowing into it. I had a few air leaks on mine so I covered them with JB Weld.

I painted my entire exhaust with a goldish high temp paint from autozone and installed it back on. Will most likely need to go up in jets.


 
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Old 05-29-2016, 10:42 AM   #2
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If you have a small grinder dremil, grind down the welds on the inside of the header pipe to improve the flow a little more as the came lousy from the factory.
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Old 05-29-2016, 11:24 AM   #3
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I've never seen a soft cat. like that. The ones I've dealt with were always a hard crumbly honeycomb material, the couple I've gutted I just used a punch & hammer. I wonder if that's a China special or the new way they're made.


 
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Old 05-29-2016, 11:37 AM   #4
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What kind of Exhaust Header Gasket was used on your HAWK?

Did it come with a good 'copper crush gasket' (right in pic) or was it similar to what I had as my header gasket (Bashan WILL)... it looked as if they used a piece of soda can metal cut like a coil/spring and smashed down to 'make a gasket' (left in pic)



I replaced that crap with a Honda OE part # 18291-MN5-650 to fix my "gasket" problem
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Old 05-29-2016, 12:46 PM   #5
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There acaully was no gasket lol, atleast non that I saw taking off. Here is a pic of it painted and on the bike
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Old 05-29-2016, 05:51 PM   #6
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I'm still trying to locate a source for a new header pipe as I don't want to mess with the existing one. I have the latest version with a flange instead of being slip over. All requests to Q9 and to Adam Rinkleff have gone unanswered.

The current exhaust system version has a much longer spark arrester and I doubt any mods to it would make any improvement. I think getting rid of the cat is the only thing that will.


 
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Old 05-29-2016, 10:14 PM   #7
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Thanks for the pics and write-up.


I haven't been successful in removing cat material with a drill bit. One of the best tips I've read on this forum was to cut a window in the header (basically half of the tube material, or a little more), pop the cat out and weld the window back in. You don't lose the alignment that way. BTW, a decent MIG will make you smile on jobs like this.
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Old 05-29-2016, 11:18 PM   #8
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Thanks for the pics and write-up.


I haven't been successful in removing cat material with a drill bit. One of the best tips I've read on this forum was to cut a window in the header (basically half of the tube material, or a little more), pop the cat out and weld the window back in. You don't lose the alignment that way. BTW, a decent MIG will make you smile on jobs like this.
Yea I didnt think of that..does sound a lot better. Yea Im planning on buying a mig welder, the flux mig from harbor freight (I want to get that plasma cutter too!) but I haven't been doing that many weld jobs to get one so I borrow the Arc welder here and there. Is it a lot easier to weld with the wire feed as opposed to stick welding?


 
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Old 05-29-2016, 11:33 PM   #9
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Yea I didnt think of that..does sound a lot better. Yea Im planning on buying a mig welder, the flux mig from harbor freight (I want to get that plasma cutter too!) but I haven't been doing that many weld jobs to get one so I borrow the Arc welder here and there. Is it a lot easier to weld with the wire feed as opposed to stick welding?
I love my Lincoln Flux core wire welder. So easy, even i can weld. point and shoot hot molten steel

Great job on the pipe, just get er done.

P.s. that screen will coke up and will clog eventually but if maintained should not be a problem.
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I love my Lincoln Flux core wire welder. So easy, even i can weld. point and shoot hot molten steel

Great job on the pipe, just get er done.

P.s. that screen will coke up and will clog eventually but if maintained should not be a problem.
Knowing that makes me want to buy a flux welder even more! How are they for deeper penetrating welds?? I know with rods you have ones for shallow penetration and other rods for medium to deep penetration

Yea i figured, I will clean it every year or so..I just want to stay legal for national forest riding.


 
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I think the pic should tell you alot. This is from inside of the weld door and is quick for material reference. They are great for what they were intended for,which 90% of the time is perfect unless you are a BBQ fab guy or pipeline welder (haha). It will do that too just mabey with a couple of passes. It cost around $500 @ home depot 10 years ago but decided it was one of those good long term investments. Fixed trailers, garage doors, strength equipment, BBQ pits, road graders. Used infrequently but always have it when needed. Most reciently, Chinese motorcycle ha.
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I think with the right options/configuration you can even weld aluminum. Ive only used Flux core stuff on ferrous medal.
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Old 05-30-2016, 12:54 AM   #13
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I've got the Hobart Handler and absolutely love it. These smaller machines, no matter Lincoln or Hobart, are the berries for lite to medium duty stuff. I personally do not know of anyone who has purchased a like model at Harbour Freight... I have no idea of their quality... You have to be careful with HF power stuff... Some of it ain't worth a damn.
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Yes, for us home dirt dobber welders, their perfect. Later I saw a Hobart handler 175 which i thought I should have bought instead, but I rarely even need to crank up the full 155 amps on mine .
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I think with the right options/configuration you can even weld aluminum. Ive only used Flux core stuff on ferrous medal.

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