HAWK Bolts or Parts??????

NickThrash · 07-13-2016, 06:38 PM

Hey, back with some more HAWK questions.

So before I had posted about an oil leak i was having with my HAWK and i had found the source and got it slightly more controlled

( http://www.chinariders.net/showthrea...972#post222972 )

Well anyways, when i was battling this issue trying to find out where the hell the oil was coming from i was taking the face plate that covers the front sprocket on & off constantly while trying to fix the leak. well after doing this for about a week, the bottom bolt (there are 2 bolts) broke off when i was tightening it! I had just started to torque the bolt and after, like, 2 pumps it just SNAPPED! so luckily, enough of it was still poking out to i could easily get the broken piece out. But I now have no bolt on the bottom of the plate & it hangs a little weird and sometimes my shift lever hits it & it just annoying. So does anyone know where i could get a replacement bolt or a common place that would sell me a bolt similar? i check some hardware store like HOME DEPOT or LOWES but i couldnt find anything like it. Its about 2in long and a size 8mm : 5/16

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Azhule · 07-13-2016, 06:41 PM

Menards, Home Depot, Lowes, Farm/Tractor Stores, Fastinal, to name a few... just take the bolt/nut (or what's left of it) down to those stores, I can usually find a 'similar length' higher quality bolt/nut for any project at those type stores

Other than that, go back to the 'dealer'

Ariel Red Hunter · 07-13-2016, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by NickThrash

Hey, back with some more HAWK questions.

So before I had posted about an oil leak i was having with my HAWK and i had found the source and got it slightly more controlled

( http://www.chinariders.net/showthrea...972#post222972 )

Well anyways, when i was battling this issue trying to find out where the hell the oil was coming from i was taking the face plate that covers the front sprocket on & off constantly while trying to fix the leak. well after doing this for about a week, the bottom bolt (there are 2 bolts) broke off when i was tightening it! I had just started to torque the bolt and after, like, 2 pumps it just SNAPPED! so luckily, enough of it was still poking out to i could easily get the broken piece out. But I now have no bolt on the bottom of the plate & it hangs a little weird and sometimes my shift lever hits it & it just annoying. So does anyone know where i could get a replacement bolt or a common place that would sell me a bolt similar? i check some hardware store like HOME DEPOT or LOWES but i couldnt find anything like it. Its about 2in long and a size 8mm : 5/16

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There are allen screws available to replace that/those bolts. Allen screws are easier to get off and on and are tougher than the bolts that came on the bike. They come in regular or shouldered. Take the broken bolt with you to see if you need the shouldered one.

Adjuster · 07-14-2016, 03:50 AM

ACE Hardware

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SeerAtlas · 07-14-2016, 07:28 AM

or jap moto dealers and specialty fastener stores serving truck/auto etc industry.

w0ss · 07-14-2016, 08:34 AM

I bought a random bolt assortment on amazon a few years ago. I have used it to replace a few on the Hawk already.

The other thing I did was save the bolts they used on the crate for shipping. They are the same threading as some of the bigger Hawk bolts. I used them for the rear caliper bolts that fell off.

Bruce's · 07-14-2016, 08:38 AM

Many of the chineese bikes have screws and bolts made by the same company that makes "I can't Beleive it's not butter" , they are generally too soft and honestly pretty crappy .Its good practice to replace the bolts you can with quality pieces from a fastener supplier ,a jap motorcycle dealer ,or even purchase a universal motorcycle fastener kit from places that sell parts unlimited ,parts canada products .When I strip a bike that is junk ,I remove and keep every fastener I can and keep them in a pail for later use

humanbeing · 07-14-2016, 10:35 AM

Those bolts are M6, correct length i forgot...

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...they are generally too soft and honestly pretty crappy...

It's 100% bike maker's fault. Fastener(s) had it's own national standard BUT they ALWAYS fit the lowest 4.* grade

BlackBike · 07-14-2016, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Adjuster

ACE Hardware

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I was in a huge new ace hardware in Rockport tx (looked like they took over the old walmart) the other day and was amazed at the metric selection.

Weldangrind · 07-14-2016, 12:30 PM

I go to a local bearing shop that carries a ton of different fasteners. I stocked up on stainless Metric socket head cap screws. They are ideal for China bikes. It's nice to be able to carry only a few allen wrenches to deal with most anything on the bike.

NickThrash · 07-15-2016, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by w0ss

I bought a random bolt assortment on amazon a few years ago. I have used it to replace a few on the Hawk already.

The other thing I did was save the bolts they used on the crate for shipping. They are the same threading as some of the bigger Hawk bolts. I used them for the rear caliper bolts that fell off.

i did the same thing too, i kept all the bolts and even some decent pieces of metal that were on that metal frame

NickThrash · 07-15-2016, 04:12 PM

Thanks guys, you all reminded me of some hardware stores that i had forgot even existed still, and even reminded me that my local Tractor Supply (right up the street from where i live) sold bolts.

Adjuster · 07-15-2016, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBike

I was in a huge new ace hardware in Rockport tx (looked like they took over the old walmart) the other day and was amazed at the metric selection.

They also carry a very nice selection of 'springs'. If you break or lose a spring you can find something that will work at ACE. Very important for China bikes.

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wilserchinarider · 07-15-2016, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by NickThrash

.......the bottom bolt (there are 2 bolts) broke off when i was tightening it! I had just started to torque the bolt and after, like, 2 pumps it just SNAPPED! so luckily, enough of it was still poking out to i could easily get the broken piece out.

I feel your pain I do! That bolt is small and merely holding on a cover for the chain. Very low torque required! It's really only a one hand firm twist, no more. about what one could reasonably put on it with an allen wrench...as weld suggested.

BlackBike · 07-15-2016, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Adjuster

They also carry a very nice selection of 'springs'. If you break or lose a spring you can find something that will work at ACE. Very important for China bikes.

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Crap, you mentioned Springs. I just threw one away from a idler pulley today. What was I thinking ! Might have been good for my stand

07-13-2016, 06:38 PM	#1
NickThrash Join Date: May 2016 Location: Ohio Posts: 154	HAWK Bolts or Parts?????? Hey, back with some more HAWK questions. So before I had posted about an oil leak i was having with my HAWK and i had found the source and got it slightly more controlled ( http://www.chinariders.net/showthrea...972#post222972 ) Well anyways, when i was battling this issue trying to find out where the hell the oil was coming from i was taking the face plate that covers the front sprocket on & off constantly while trying to fix the leak. well after doing this for about a week, the bottom bolt (there are 2 bolts) broke off when i was tightening it! I had just started to torque the bolt and after, like, 2 pumps it just SNAPPED! so luckily, enough of it was still poking out to i could easily get the broken piece out. But I now have no bolt on the bottom of the plate & it hangs a little weird and sometimes my shift lever hits it & it just annoying. So does anyone know where i could get a replacement bolt or a common place that would sell me a bolt similar? i check some hardware store like HOME DEPOT or LOWES but i couldnt find anything like it. Its about 2in long and a size 8mm : 5/16 I Have Photos:
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07-13-2016, 06:41 PM	#2
Azhule Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: CO Posts: 1,525	Menards, Home Depot, Lowes, Farm/Tractor Stores, Fastinal, to name a few... just take the bolt/nut (or what's left of it) down to those stores, I can usually find a 'similar length' higher quality bolt/nut for any project at those type stores Other than that, go back to the 'dealer' __________________ "Think as you like... but this self proclaimed Professor is always right" - Buckshot "You never know what someone is hiding beneath their smile..." - NinjaTom - R.I.P.
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07-14-2016, 08:34 AM	#6
w0ss Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 231	I bought a random bolt assortment on amazon a few years ago. I have used it to replace a few on the Hawk already. The other thing I did was save the bolts they used on the crate for shipping. They are the same threading as some of the bigger Hawk bolts. I used them for the rear caliper bolts that fell off. __________________ Hawk 250 with following performance mods: 17t, Mikuni with 110/25, Uni filter, Exhaust.
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Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	I go to a local bearing shop that carries a ton of different fasteners. I stocked up on stainless Metric socket head cap screws. They are ideal for China bikes. It's nice to be able to carry only a few allen wrenches to deal with most anything on the bike. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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07-14-2016, 08:38 AM	#7
Bruce's Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Sudbury ,Ontario Posts: 855	Many of the chineese bikes have screws and bolts made by the same company that makes "I can't Beleive it's not butter" , they are generally too soft and honestly pretty crappy .Its good practice to replace the bolts you can with quality pieces from a fastener supplier ,a jap motorcycle dealer ,or even purchase a universal motorcycle fastener kit from places that sell parts unlimited ,parts canada products .When I strip a bike that is junk ,I remove and keep every fastener I can and keep them in a pail for later use
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07-15-2016, 04:12 PM	#12
NickThrash Join Date: May 2016 Location: Ohio Posts: 154	Thanks guys, you all reminded me of some hardware stores that i had forgot even existed still, and even reminded me that my local Tractor Supply (right up the street from where i live) sold bolts.
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