Wheel Seal knowledge requested

gwowzer · 01-31-2021, 09:26 PM

Well, I screwed the pooch on my bearing check. Completely trashed the front wheel seal on the rotor side of the Brozz.
I need a new one. Hoping someone can translate it for me.
There is a JL, and then clockwise from the JL, 20, 35, 7, 16

tknj99 · 01-31-2021, 09:52 PM

Can you elaborate on what happened for it to get trashed? I removed the wheel several times and lubed the axle and the sides of the wheel where axle goes thru but never actually removed the cover to look for bearings

gwowzer · 01-31-2021, 11:39 PM

I tried to pry the rotor side seal out with a flathead precision screwdriver, and having not pulled it out before, pried in the wrong place. Lead to several pries in the wrong places and started ripping the rubber. Just accelerated into me messing it up and ripping tearing it further.
Simple to remove, after finding out where to pry on it. Popped right out when you know the spot lol.

gwowzer · 01-31-2021, 11:51 PM

Looks like it is this one:
https://www.amazon.com/16X35X7-EAI-S...2155005&sr=8-3

franque · 02-01-2021, 03:47 AM

Just measure, like you would measure a bearing. Sometimes googling a number on it will find the seal for you, but more often than not, it won't do anything for you.

It could be a 20x35x7 seal, but you'd have to measure the dimensions being sealed, in mm, to confirm.

tknj99 · 02-01-2021, 06:48 AM

Check on the shopbrozz.com parts diagram and if you can't find it maybe try calling Jeff at Peace, I'm sure he can find out the part info

mtiberio · 02-01-2021, 07:26 AM

Run without the extra seal, the bearing probably has integrated seals anyway. The TT250 wheel bearings do (6201-2RS) RS=roller sealed

tknj99 · 02-01-2021, 09:39 AM

https://shop.brozz250.com/eshopprod_...l_Assembly.htm

Not sure but perhaps this is the part:
Front Wheel Bearing
product # 401000-0145A
description: SJX 6201RS -
$5.00

gwowzer · 02-01-2021, 09:51 AM

It is 35mm O.D. 20mm ID Outer Lip, 16mm ID inner lip,
7 mm thick. Still dont know what the JL is.

gwowzer · 02-01-2021, 09:58 AM

It looks like the one I linked to on amazon will work. I have to go out later to run an errand, I have an industrial bearing and seal shop near me, I'll swing through there and see if they can get a part number.

Bruces · 02-01-2021, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mtiberio

Run without the extra seal, the bearing probably has integrated seals anyway. The TT250 wheel bearings do (6201-2RS) RS=roller sealed

Not exactly .
RS means rubber seal ,2 RS means rubber seal on both sides of the bearing .

gwowzer · 02-01-2021, 12:31 PM

Update:
So the seal I linked above on Amazon should be the correct seal. I went into the local industrial bearing place near me and they confirmed the measurements. I actually ordered one through them as it was only $7.

01-31-2021, 09:26 PM	#1
gwowzer Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 297	Wheel Seal knowledge requested Well, I screwed the pooch on my bearing check. Completely trashed the front wheel seal on the rotor side of the Brozz. I need a new one. Hoping someone can translate it for me. There is a JL, and then clockwise from the JL, 20, 35, 7, 16
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01-31-2021, 09:52 PM	#2
tknj99 Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Central VA Posts: 1,258	Can you elaborate on what happened for it to get trashed? I removed the wheel several times and lubed the axle and the sides of the wheel where axle goes thru but never actually removed the cover to look for bearings __________________ 2024 Zuma Storm 150 DLX 2019 Beta 430 RRS 2018 VStrom 1000 XT Former China Bikes: Tao DBX1, Brozz 250, CSC RX4, Titan DLX, Templar X
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01-31-2021, 11:51 PM	#4
gwowzer Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 297	Looks like it is this one: https://www.amazon.com/16X35X7-EAI-S...2155005&sr=8-3 Last edited by gwowzer; 02-01-2021 at 12:26 PM.
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02-01-2021, 06:48 AM	#6
tknj99 Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Central VA Posts: 1,258	Check on the shopbrozz.com parts diagram and if you can't find it maybe try calling Jeff at Peace, I'm sure he can find out the part info __________________ 2024 Zuma Storm 150 DLX 2019 Beta 430 RRS 2018 VStrom 1000 XT Former China Bikes: Tao DBX1, Brozz 250, CSC RX4, Titan DLX, Templar X
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02-01-2021, 07:26 AM	#7
mtiberio Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 258	Run without the extra seal, the bearing probably has integrated seals anyway. The TT250 wheel bearings do (6201-2RS) RS=roller sealed __________________ 4 time WERA SuperVintage Roadracing National Champion, SCTA Land Speed Record Holder, 3rd AMA Motorcycle GP of Miami
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01-31-2021, 11:39 PM	#3
gwowzer Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 297	I tried to pry the rotor side seal out with a flathead precision screwdriver, and having not pulled it out before, pried in the wrong place. Lead to several pries in the wrong places and started ripping the rubber. Just accelerated into me messing it up and ripping tearing it further. Simple to remove, after finding out where to pry on it. Popped right out when you know the spot lol.
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02-01-2021, 03:47 AM	#5
franque Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Marseille, France -> Conakry, Guinea Posts: 1,481	Just measure, like you would measure a bearing. Sometimes googling a number on it will find the seal for you, but more often than not, it won't do anything for you. It could be a 20x35x7 seal, but you'd have to measure the dimensions being sealed, in mm, to confirm.
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02-01-2021, 09:39 AM	#8
tknj99 Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Central VA Posts: 1,258	https://shop.brozz250.com/eshopprod_...l_Assembly.htm Not sure but perhaps this is the part: Front Wheel Bearing product # 401000-0145A description: SJX 6201RS - $5.00 __________________ 2024 Zuma Storm 150 DLX 2019 Beta 430 RRS 2018 VStrom 1000 XT Former China Bikes: Tao DBX1, Brozz 250, CSC RX4, Titan DLX, Templar X
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02-01-2021, 09:51 AM	#9
gwowzer Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 297	It is 35mm O.D. 20mm ID Outer Lip, 16mm ID inner lip, 7 mm thick. Still dont know what the JL is.
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02-01-2021, 09:58 AM	#10
gwowzer Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 297	It looks like the one I linked to on amazon will work. I have to go out later to run an errand, I have an industrial bearing and seal shop near me, I'll swing through there and see if they can get a part number.
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02-01-2021, 12:31 PM	#12
gwowzer Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 297	Update: So the seal I linked above on Amazon should be the correct seal. I went into the local industrial bearing place near me and they confirmed the measurements. I actually ordered one through them as it was only $7.
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