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Old 12-03-2010, 03:09 AM   #1
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AC or DC (Not Me, the CDI)
How do I determine if my bike has an ac or dc CDI unit? it has a 163FML vertical engine. The plug on the stock CDI unit has the squared off plug. I'm also looking to upgrade the coil. I hope to upgrade the exhaust eventually. That stock header looks very small for a 200cc engine. The bike has a PZ30 carb if this helps you any.


 
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Old 12-03-2010, 03:40 AM   #2
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Re: AC or DC (Not Me, the CDI)
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How do I determine if my bike has an ac or dc CDI unit? it has a 163FML vertical engine. The plug on the stock CDI unit has the squared off plug. I'm also looking to upgrade the coil. I hope to upgrade the exhaust eventually. That stock header looks very small for a 200cc engine. The bike has a PZ30 carb if this helps you any.
squared off plug= CG125 based OHV
The best way to find out is shoot a photo & Google it's brand/ specs etc...
cheap clone = Fixed Angle ac CDI | Standard clone =Advancing Angle ac Cdi | DC CDi is larger & sometimes had a extra red wire
chinese term AC:交流 DC:直流


 
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Old 12-03-2010, 05:04 AM   #3
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Re: AC or DC (Not Me, the CDI)
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How do I determine if my bike has an ac or dc CDI unit? it has a 163FML vertical engine. The plug on the stock CDI unit has the squared off plug. I'm also looking to upgrade the coil. I hope to upgrade the exhaust eventually. That stock header looks very small for a 200cc engine. The bike has a PZ30 carb if this helps you any.
squared off plug= CG125 based OHV
The best way to find out is shoot a photo & Google it's brand/ specs etc...
cheap clone = Fixed Angle ac CDI | Standard clone =Advancing Angle ac Cdi | DC CDi is larger & sometimes had a extra red wire
chinese term AC:交流 DC:直流
It is a small unit and has two plugs. One with 2 wires, the other has 4. The dimensions of the cdi unit are 59mm long, 33mm wide and 21mm in height.


 
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Old 12-03-2010, 06:30 AM   #4
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:idea: "fool-proof" direct swap AC-CDi
Improve ~3.x ouput / No coil change needed
http://motorcycle.sh.cn/t_170040_1.htm
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=4992887660


 
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Old 12-03-2010, 03:22 PM   #5
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First of all, I'm glad the confusion concerns your motorcycle, and not yourself, WJ! I'm pretty sure you have the generic, Chinese, Hondoid CDI unit, widely available on eBay. However, if you can post a photograph, we will know for sure.

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Old 12-04-2010, 12:49 AM   #6
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http://www.coolster.com/catalog/prod...roducts_id=887

Is there a rectifier? Everything on one side of the rectifier DC and then the other side is all AC, the CDI would be on the AC side since everything on that side is AC and only thing that is DC is the battery?


 
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Old 12-04-2010, 01:00 AM   #7
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I thank you all for your replys. I got a response from Kinroad. They actually confirmed it is an AC CDI. They offered me an owners manual download but I want a service manual, I guess just like everyone else....LOL


 
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Old 12-04-2010, 01:06 AM   #8
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Clymer? CG125?
http://www.compoutpost.com/store/item.asp?code=HM433

I'm sure you can find one cheaper they probably have them in the library, if you live were they have libraries.


 
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Old 12-04-2010, 08:45 AM   #9
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It's just a XL/XR frame w/ OHV machine.
:wink: '04 CGR125/ Storm / SDH125-46 Workshop Manual | LiNK OR join & dl @ Argentina site LinK
Difference btw 125/ 200
http://family.saycoo.com/thread-269889-1-1.html


 
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Old 12-04-2010, 09:07 AM   #10
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Clymer? CG125?
http://www.compoutpost.com/store/item.asp?code=HM433

I'm sure you can find one cheaper they probably have them in the library, if you live were they have libraries.
Why OZ site? abebooks.com can ship from UK @ ~$20.
The old :oops: pirate :oops: Haynes pdf can easily found in google


 
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Old 12-04-2010, 12:54 PM   #11
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Publisher: Haynes Publications
ISBN: 1850109184 (1-850-10918-4)
ISBN-13: 9781850109181 (978-1-850-10918-1)
Format: Softcover, 129 pages
Date Published: 05-1994
Type: Workshop Manual/Repair Manual/Service Manual


 
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Old 12-04-2010, 01:24 PM   #12
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Frame


Engine


What was it an increase in the bore from 56.5 to 63?
125 …156FMI, 150... 161FMJ, 200... 163FML


 
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Old 12-04-2010, 03:26 PM   #13
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It's just a XL/XR frame w/ OHV machine.
:wink: '04 CGR125/ Storm / SDH125-46 Workshop Manual | LiNK OR join & dl @ Argentina site LinK
Difference btw 125/ 200
http://family.saycoo.com/thread-269889-1-1.html
You have me at an disadvantage, you can read Chinese as well as English and maybe a few other languages. I have no understanding of Chinese. Is there a translate button somewhere on the webpage?


 
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Old 12-04-2010, 03:37 PM   #14
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What was it an increase in the bore from 56.5 to 63?
125 …156FMI, 150... 161FMJ, 200... 163FML
The bore and stroke on the 163FML is almost square 63.5 x 62.2. The Honda engines are oversquare. I can't tell you much more than that.


 
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Publisher: Haynes Publications
ISBN: 1850109184 (1-850-10918-4)
ISBN-13: 9781850109181 (978-1-850-10918-1)
Latest Revised edition is 9781844257539

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Is there a translate button somewhere on the webpage?
translate.google.com works OKish on formal things but discussion board = typo , dialect, slang... ie Translated result = Gibberish


 
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