New RPS Hawk 300???

[Sport Rider]

did anyone notice from my build thread the sticker on the motor. see attached. apparently I got one of the upgraded 300cc models!!!

[Weldangrind]

That's fun to bench race, but I'm inclined to doubt the accuracy. I'm betting it's a typo for 229.

[kohburn]

I noticed and posted about it in your thread

[kohburn]

Originally Posted by Weldangrind

I'm betting it's a typo for 229.

would seem most likely

[Sport Rider]

Originally Posted by kohburn

would seem most likely

that's what I think as well, but it DOES say I have a 300!

I'm going to make sure and save that sticker so that I can tell others it's that size.

[jct842]

Could it be the maker put that on so a 229 could pass a 300 pollution test?

[Sport Rider]

Originally Posted by jct842

Could it be the maker put that on so a 229 could pass a 300 pollution test?

Interesting thought. BUT.....there's always a but, right?

the hawk that I was looking at when visiting a local dealer had a different sticker on it. in fact, it didn't have the graphics on it either. it was a much smaller sticker than the one that came on mine. however, it did identify it as a Haosen RPS Hawk.

I beleive it's a chinese plot to keep us all off-guard while they infiltrate our markets with quality clone devices.

[Sport Rider]

check this sale ad:
http://motorcycles.smartcarguide.com/listing/49430989/

(we need another emoticon for stirring the pot!)

[kohburn]

i guess someone will have to pull a head off and measure bore and stroke

[2LZ]

My 250 Rhino (230?) is listed as a 150 on the frame tag. Their documentation accuracy is astounding! LOL!

[NzBrakelathes]

Originally Posted by 2LZ

My 250 Rhino (230?) is listed as a 150 on the frame tag. Their documentation accuracy is astounding! LOL!

Some bikes in China on papers are registered as 125cc or 150cc but reality they are 198cc or 232.6cc

Helps out when the city has limits on where you can legally ride a bike on the outer rings of the city etc

[roundhouse]

I hope it is 300. That would be cool!

[NzBrakelathes]

Originally Posted by roundhouse

I hope it is 300. That would be cool!

Oh but there is a Hawk bike with a water cooled 300.
Just Americans won't spend the money or no one wants to CARB EPA it I would say

[RedCrowRides]

- To expand on NzBrakelathes point , what with the new Tariffs on Chinese bikes pushing their cost upwards ,they are arriving at that "price barrier" that people just can't justify paying given Chinese build quality ,even though it has improved greatly over the last decade. Once you hit that $4k US dollars price point you are looking at enough money to just buy a good used Japanese bike of the desired type.,rather than buy a new Chinese model .It will be interesting to see what China does to address the situation in the future.

[NzBrakelathes]

Originally Posted by RedCrowRides

- To expand on NzBrakelathes point , what with the new Tariffs on Chinese bikes pushing their cost upwards ,they are arriving at that "price barrier" that people just can't justify paying given Chinese build quality ,even though it has improved greatly over the last decade. Once you hit that $4k US dollars price point you are looking at enough money to just buy a good used Japanese bike of the desired type.,rather than buy a new Chinese model .It will be interesting to see what China does to address the situation in the future.

and largely I agree but I will point out my own thoughts;

The Hawk is often bought by buyers with minimal cash flow etc - doesn't buy much or any quality (no offence anyone) even in China a slightly fancy looking bike is $1200 or up.

The better bikes I see importer being a bit too greedy ( maybe their costs are high to operate, I have no facts to support my thoughts).

I doubt if the cost of cheaper or more expensive production warrants the less or more money it costs in the USA economy. So a decent used Jap bike IS a very good option indeed but maybe a good Chinese one also could be.

Cheap toy bike owners often their main aim in tinkering, taking it apart, doing stuff to it, with it and talking about it ( again no real fact, just what I observe and meaning it all without offence)

There are SO many options opinion etc without a real fact - UNLESS you ask is a Hawk better the a TT250, well the TT350 is better but costs more as it should (or any other logical comparison)

talking to a few Chinese motorcycle indusrty people and yes they say " China hasn't matured yet and we don't have a workshop in our shop or often we don't like to sell parts cause no money in it"

So there are a few of my thought and points which I feel are valid enough to read and ponder on.
Cheers for reading