Chineeze Digital Speedomoter Problem

HighMountianHawk · 10-21-2018, 12:49 AM

hello, I bought a eBay Chinese digital speedometer for my Hawk 250, I thought since it was Chinese as well as the bike all I would have to do is plug-in the plug that fit it, and mount the digital speedometer sensor and magnet and it would work? It didn't work. It didn't even light up. So now I have to figure out whether I have a faulty speedometer out of the box or whether the wiring is correct. Problem is the speedometer didn't come with a wiring diagram and I don't know What colors are what on the hawk. Not even the manual will tell you. the manual for the hawk 250 has a wire diagram but it doesn't tell you the colors. the key was turned on, I thought that the one wire that was all by itself might be a ground but I tried touching that wire two different metal parts of the chassis , but it still didn't come on. Can someone help me with this?. Does someone have the color designations for the hawk 250? Thank you. also my brake light is staying on all the time

roundhouse · 10-21-2018, 11:17 AM

I was wondering about something like that for mine. I will bump your thread, hope someone will know.

Biker_Andy · 10-21-2018, 11:46 AM

Well I don't own a Hawk but I do have A TT250. Considering the wires for Matt's digital cluster (was originally intended for the Hawk) match perfectly color for color to my TT250 I think it's safe to assume the wire colors of both bikes are identical. I figured out what all the wires were when I installed my cluster because it had a wiring issue. As soon as I find where I wrote it all down I'll post it.

Biker_Andy · 10-21-2018, 12:09 PM

9 Pin Connector behind the headlight
Green = Ground
Orange = Left Turn Signal
Light Blue = Right Turn Signal
Dark Blue = Headlight Brights
Yellow = Fuel Gauge
Brown = Backlight Ignition Power
Black = Ignition Power
Green with Red Stripe = Neutral Light

6 Pin Connector from Engine
Pink = 1st Gear
Blue with Red Stripe = 2nd Gear
Green with Black Stripe = 3rd Gear
Yellow with Red Stripe = 4th Gear
Brown with White Stripe = 5th Gear
Green with Red Stripe = Neutral

Blue with White Stripe = Engine RPM
Red (Not Supplied) = Battery Power

**cheesy** · 10-21-2018, 08:04 PM

What speedo did you get?

HighMountianHawk · 10-22-2018, 07:17 AM

LCD Motorcycle 14000RPM Multi Function Odometer Speedometer Tachometer Gauge
on Ebay.

**cheesy** · 10-22-2018, 07:58 AM

Not the same as mine but try this.
Lt blue-right turn
Blue-hi beam
Brown/white-running lights
Orange-left turn
Yellow/black-tach
Green-ground
Blue/white-fuel gauge
Red-battery
Black-ignition switch

Six pin plug
Green/red-neutral
Pink-1st
Blue/red-2nd
Green/black-3rd
Yellow/red-4th
Yellow/white-5th

I’d bench test the unit to double check the wiring before installing it. If you don’t have access to a 0-15 volt bench power supply, the bikes’ battery will work in a pinch.

Weldangrind · 10-22-2018, 11:47 AM

That's the same cluster my honorary son installed on his F3. IIRC, the eBay seller posted the wiring chart on the eBay page. I don't have a link, or I'd share it. Since his Honda didn't have the same connector, we bought another connector on eBay (for a Kubota, I think), made a cross reference chart to correct the colours and he soldered it together.

HighMountianHawk · 10-23-2018, 11:12 AM

hello folks, thank you so much for your help but I still need help. what a freaking nightmare!

okay here's the breakdown:

I have 10 wires coming from the speedometer, 12 including the speed sensor which is obvious.

White
Orange
yellow/ white
Black/Blue
Black
Black/Red
Red
Green/White
Black
Blue/Yellow (Has bullet connector on it)

Notes: there is no light blue coming from the speedometer.
there is no solid dark blue coming from the speedometer.
there is no blue / white coming from the speedometer.
there is no pink coming from the speedometer.
there is no blue / red coming from the speedometer.
There is no green / Black coming from the speedometer
there is no blue / red coming from the speedometer
there is no yellow / red. coming from the speedometer.
there is no yellow / Black coming from the speedometer

there is a red on the hawk but not on the pin connector that I cut. it follows through another connector along with the green and the black should I tie the red to the other two?

Should I hook the yellow / white on the speedometer to the brown / White on the hawk? There is a yellow / white on the hawk.

I was able to hook up the orange with the orange, the black with the black and the green with the green but that's the only combinations that I could do until I find out more information.

I've included a picture of the spaghetti. sorry for the trouble, any advice would help. Thank you.

first picture is from the speedometer, second picture is of the hawk.

MC: I apologize for not purchasing your digital cluster, if I can't figure this out I will have to take a loss because I got glue all over my speedometer to mount it and I'll purchase yours. Thank you.

b

**JerryHawk250** · 10-23-2018, 11:15 AM

Did the cluster come with a wiring diagram? That would help.

HighMountianHawk · 10-23-2018, 11:24 AM

no it didn't, I wish it would have, I contacted the Chinese seller but they don't know what the hell I'm saying. They're really bad at interpreting English.

**JerryHawk250** · 10-23-2018, 11:35 AM

Look through the other ebay seller that have that same speedometer. One of them may have it in there ad.

Weldangrind · 10-23-2018, 11:39 AM

I found this:

Wiring instructions: (only work with 2 or 4 cylinder)
1. Orange: left turn signal light
2. Light Blue: right turn signal light
3. Dark Blue: low-high beam light
4. Blue and White: water temperature
5. Yellow and White: gasoline gauge take unit
6. Black and Yellow: speed (connected to the engine pulses)
7. Red: positive
8. Green: negative
9. Black: power switch
10. Green and Yellow: hand brake parking lights
11. Green, white magnetic induction line

It was here: https://www.ebay.com/itm/15000-RPM-L....c100005.m1851

**JerryHawk250** · 10-23-2018, 11:47 AM

LOL, you beat me to it. I just found the same thing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind

I found this:

Wiring instructions: (only work with 2 or 4 cylinder)
1. Orange: left turn signal light
2. Light Blue: right turn signal light
3. Dark Blue: low-high beam light
4. Blue and White: water temperature
5. Yellow and White: gasoline gauge take unit
6. Black and Yellow: speed (connected to the engine pulses)
7. Red: positive
8. Green: negative
9. Black: power switch
10. Green and Yellow: hand brake parking lights
11. Green, white magnetic induction line

It was here: https://www.ebay.com/itm/15000-RPM-L....c100005.m1851

HighMountianHawk · 10-23-2018, 12:22 PM

thank you guys, I appreciate it, I'll work on this after work again

10-21-2018, 12:49 AM	#1
HighMountianHawk Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 59	Chineeze Digital Speedomoter Problem hello, I bought a eBay Chinese digital speedometer for my Hawk 250, I thought since it was Chinese as well as the bike all I would have to do is plug-in the plug that fit it, and mount the digital speedometer sensor and magnet and it would work? It didn't work. It didn't even light up. So now I have to figure out whether I have a faulty speedometer out of the box or whether the wiring is correct. Problem is the speedometer didn't come with a wiring diagram and I don't know What colors are what on the hawk. Not even the manual will tell you. the manual for the hawk 250 has a wire diagram but it doesn't tell you the colors. the key was turned on, I thought that the one wire that was all by itself might be a ground but I tried touching that wire two different metal parts of the chassis , but it still didn't come on. Can someone help me with this?. Does someone have the color designations for the hawk 250? Thank you. also my brake light is staying on all the time
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10-21-2018, 11:46 AM	#3
Biker_Andy Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 347	Well I don't own a Hawk but I do have A TT250. Considering the wires for Matt's digital cluster (was originally intended for the Hawk) match perfectly color for color to my TT250 I think it's safe to assume the wire colors of both bikes are identical. I figured out what all the wires were when I installed my cluster because it had a wiring issue. As soon as I find where I wrote it all down I'll post it. __________________ Electrician & Electronics Tech 2014 Honda CB500XA 2016 CSC TT250 1976 Honda CJ360T 2022 Honda Navi
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10-21-2018, 12:09 PM	#4
Biker_Andy Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 347	9 Pin Connector behind the headlight Green = Ground Orange = Left Turn Signal Light Blue = Right Turn Signal Dark Blue = Headlight Brights Yellow = Fuel Gauge Brown = Backlight Ignition Power Black = Ignition Power Green with Red Stripe = Neutral Light 6 Pin Connector from Engine Pink = 1st Gear Blue with Red Stripe = 2nd Gear Green with Black Stripe = 3rd Gear Yellow with Red Stripe = 4th Gear Brown with White Stripe = 5th Gear Green with Red Stripe = Neutral Blue with White Stripe = Engine RPM Red (Not Supplied) = Battery Power __________________ Electrician & Electronics Tech 2014 Honda CB500XA 2016 CSC TT250 1976 Honda CJ360T 2022 Honda Navi Last edited by Biker_Andy; 10-23-2018 at 01:25 PM.
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10-21-2018, 08:04 PM	#5
cheesy Moderator Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Elburn, IL Posts: 5,809	What speedo did you get? __________________ Cheesy ______________________________________ 07 Hi Bird Enduro-Flown the Coop 07 Ural Gear Up 79 Honda CX500 77 VeloSolex 4600 V3 73 VeloSolex 3800 I'm making this up as I go.-Indiana Jones Telling me something 'is for my own good', is a fast way to a fat lip.-Me I don't even care about my own problems, why should I care about yours?-Quote on one of my favorite t-shirts
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10-22-2018, 07:58 AM	#7
cheesy Moderator Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Elburn, IL Posts: 5,809	Not the same as mine but try this. Lt blue-right turn Blue-hi beam Brown/white-running lights Orange-left turn Yellow/black-tach Green-ground Blue/white-fuel gauge Red-battery Black-ignition switch Six pin plug Green/red-neutral Pink-1st Blue/red-2nd Green/black-3rd Yellow/red-4th Yellow/white-5th I’d bench test the unit to double check the wiring before installing it. If you don’t have access to a 0-15 volt bench power supply, the bikes’ battery will work in a pinch. __________________ Cheesy ______________________________________ 07 Hi Bird Enduro-Flown the Coop 07 Ural Gear Up 79 Honda CX500 77 VeloSolex 4600 V3 73 VeloSolex 3800 I'm making this up as I go.-Indiana Jones Telling me something 'is for my own good', is a fast way to a fat lip.-Me I don't even care about my own problems, why should I care about yours?-Quote on one of my favorite t-shirts
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10-21-2018, 11:17 AM	#2
roundhouse Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: N Texas Posts: 706	I was wondering about something like that for mine. I will bump your thread, hope someone will know.
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10-22-2018, 11:47 AM	#8
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	That's the same cluster my honorary son installed on his F3. IIRC, the eBay seller posted the wiring chart on the eBay page. I don't have a link, or I'd share it. Since his Honda didn't have the same connector, we bought another connector on eBay (for a Kubota, I think), made a cross reference chart to correct the colours and he soldered it together. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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10-23-2018, 11:12 AM	#9
HighMountianHawk Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 59	hello folks, thank you so much for your help but I still need help. what a freaking nightmare! okay here's the breakdown: I have 10 wires coming from the speedometer, 12 including the speed sensor which is obvious. White Orange yellow/ white Black/Blue Black Black/Red Red Green/White Black Blue/Yellow (Has bullet connector on it) Notes: there is no light blue coming from the speedometer. there is no solid dark blue coming from the speedometer. there is no blue / white coming from the speedometer. there is no pink coming from the speedometer. there is no blue / red coming from the speedometer. There is no green / Black coming from the speedometer there is no blue / red coming from the speedometer there is no yellow / red. coming from the speedometer. there is no yellow / Black coming from the speedometer there is a red on the hawk but not on the pin connector that I cut. it follows through another connector along with the green and the black should I tie the red to the other two? Should I hook the yellow / white on the speedometer to the brown / White on the hawk? There is a yellow / white on the hawk. I was able to hook up the orange with the orange, the black with the black and the green with the green but that's the only combinations that I could do until I find out more information. I've included a picture of the spaghetti. sorry for the trouble, any advice would help. Thank you. first picture is from the speedometer, second picture is of the hawk. MC: I apologize for not purchasing your digital cluster, if I can't figure this out I will have to take a loss because I got glue all over my speedometer to mount it and I'll purchase yours. Thank you. b
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10-23-2018, 11:15 AM	#10
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,568	Did the cluster come with a wiring diagram? That would help. __________________ 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel
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10-23-2018, 11:35 AM	#12
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,568	Look through the other ebay seller that have that same speedometer. One of them may have it in there ad. __________________ 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel
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10-23-2018, 11:39 AM	#13
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	I found this: Wiring instructions: (only work with 2 or 4 cylinder) 1. Orange: left turn signal light 2. Light Blue: right turn signal light 3. Dark Blue: low-high beam light 4. Blue and White: water temperature 5. Yellow and White: gasoline gauge take unit 6. Black and Yellow: speed (connected to the engine pulses) 7. Red: positive 8. Green: negative 9. Black: power switch 10. Green and Yellow: hand brake parking lights 11. Green, white magnetic induction line It was here: https://www.ebay.com/itm/15000-RPM-L....c100005.m1851 __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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10-23-2018, 12:22 PM	#15
HighMountianHawk Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 59	thank you guys, I appreciate it, I'll work on this after work again
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