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Old 06-15-2018, 12:18 PM   #1
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Hawk down again

Damn stuck on the side of road now cause the hawk shut off. I was going about 62 when all of a sudden I hear this clank and the bike just died. Got off to look and I see my air hose that connects to my carb is off and the screw is missing. Only thing I can think is my engine sucked up the screw for my clamp. I’m pretty sure that’s what happened cause when I kick it over something’s rattling inside I can hear it. Either my screw or something broke off in it. At least I’ll have all weekend to figure it out. Damn


 
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Old 06-15-2018, 12:30 PM   #2
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Damn stuck on the side of road now cause the hawk shut off. I was going about 62 when all of a sudden I hear this clank and the bike just died. Got off to look and I see my air hose that connects to my carb is off and the screw is missing. Only thing I can think is my engine sucked up the screw for my clamp. I’m pretty sure that’s what happened cause when I kick it over something’s rattling inside I can hear it. Either my screw or something broke off in it. At least I’ll have all weekend to figure it out. Damn
You have the absolute worst luck of anybody I have ever known when it comes to a bike. If you didn't have bad luck, you would have no luck at all.

Thankfully the cylinder heads on these engines are pretty easy to remove. Hopefully the damage isn't too bad.
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Old 06-15-2018, 01:39 PM   #3
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Man, That bike is jinxed. You should be an expert on disassembling and assembling that engine by now. Hopefully there's no major damage. Hope for the best.
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Old 06-15-2018, 03:28 PM   #4
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What are the chances of removing the top end off and pulling the screw out and it running fine or am I definitely gonna need a new cylinder head. Do I have to drain the oil to remove the top to get to the screw. Yeah bikes for sure jinxed.


 
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You can pull the head without draining the oil. You can check for piston or valve damage when you do that.
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Old 06-15-2018, 08:49 PM   #6
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Guys are right...start with the easiest to get to up top and work your way down if need be....but seriously.... Damn!
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Old 06-15-2018, 09:50 PM   #7
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So I pulled the top off as much as I could and the valves still look good I can see some scratches on cylinder wall. Did find small piece of metal in there. The clamp that held my air tube to carb wasn’t wanting to tighten because the hole the screw goes through on clamp started to stretch so I had a washer on screw, I’m thinking maybe that got sucked into engine I don’t think screw would make it through. I know it has to do with something with my air hose clamp because as soon as bike broke and I inspected first thing I noticed was my air hose off of carb. I left my bike at work I’m gonna pick up tomorrow and have to split the engine again. When I had the top off I cranked the kick start and my piston isn’t going up and down anymore. Sucks, I’ll open it up this weekend and post my results.


 
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Old 06-15-2018, 10:41 PM   #8
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is there an intake hose from a crf 230 that works i thought i seen someone saying they were upgrading there intake hose ,mine was bent twisted couse the stock one has like 3 seperate gromets an they had it at the first one ,had to trim the hose to fit it to last one so it was not sticking way inside the box either ,or intake ,my friend who is real good with these engines ,wants to mod my box even more an put a different hose ,an i know his ideas are good ,he works on my camaro too,
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Old 06-15-2018, 11:02 PM   #9
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Wow... I'm trying to figure out how a clamp on the outside of the air intake broke and made it inside your engine? your calmer than I'd be. Hats off to you brother and good luck.
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is there an intake hose from a crf 230 that works i thought i seen someone saying they were upgrading there intake hose
That's me, and you have the wrong end of the intake. I have a CRF230F intake, aka "manifold" or "Carburetor Insulator Socket". In short, the bit that bolts to the head.
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Old 06-16-2018, 07:43 AM   #11
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I have the whole air box and filter off of my bike yours if ya want it.

I just went with a https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DFBJ510/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Old 06-16-2018, 01:35 PM   #12
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I thought I had bad luck............sorry. that sucks being stranded and worse damaging your stuff.

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Old 06-16-2018, 02:20 PM   #13
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I don't often say this..... but I think this warrants it: go out and buy a Honda.



 
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Old 06-16-2018, 04:32 PM   #14
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[QUOTE=Megadan;283564]That's me, and you have the wrong end of the intake

edit yes the intake to the head on mine looks fine no gap issues there so far the air box hose was bent twisted so we trimmed to fit proper ,whats up with the crf version thanks Dan
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I have the whole air box and filter off of my bike yours if ya want it.

I just went with a https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DFBJ510/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Thanks but mines still good just need a new clamp. Do you plan on doing something with the extra space now that you removed your air box? Why switch to a different filter? My experience with dirt bikes and those kind of air filters sucks because if it gets a little wet bike shuts down. I like the air box under the seat on the hawk cause I can get it wet and muddy and not have to worry to much about bike shutting off due to water getting on filter. No update on the bike yet it’s still at my job and my garage needs to be clean first before I start dismantling the engine. Gotta have a clean workspace. I’ll probably have it split by next weekend though.


 
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