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Old 12-17-2020, 12:35 PM   #1
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Suggestions for 2021 Brozz---Let Us Know

What changes do ya'll want to see for 2021 Brozz?
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Old 12-17-2020, 01:37 PM   #2
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Hi Jeff, appreciate the request out to the forum..

Question: are you looking for feedback for changes that re-architect the bike and potentially raise the price, or simply changes that are preference, ie.. color options, sticker or other visual type changes, etc?
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Old 12-17-2020, 01:40 PM   #3
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A 25+hp water cooled 250cc engine with a 6 speed. You asked.
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Old 12-17-2020, 02:05 PM   #4
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From what I've read, the main thing that makes people choose the hawk over the other makes, aside from them being the cheapest, is the 18/21 rim selection.
Maybe folding shift levers would be nice.
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Old 12-17-2020, 02:07 PM   #5
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A 25+hp water cooled 250cc engine with a 6 speed. You asked.
I would have asked for a fuel injected 400. Also factory engine side guards.


 
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Old 12-17-2020, 03:14 PM   #6
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A model with 18/21" wheels and tires, or the option to buy them. One of the biggest reasons I didn't go for a Brozz the second time around was specifically because of that
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Old 12-17-2020, 03:22 PM   #7
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It would be pretty nice to get the xcross style cg300 engine, since it's still air cooled and shouldn't require any frame changes. Just a thought.
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Old 12-17-2020, 03:42 PM   #8
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Sticker Shock upgrades: Better front forks, suspension adjustability, 18/21 wheels, o/x-ring chain, fuel injection, performance oriented exhaust, water (or at least oil) cooling, maintenance free battery

Status quo upgrades: stickers that aren't clear coated, better initial assembly with moving parts lubed well and nuts/bolts lock-tited prior to delivery
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Old 12-17-2020, 03:56 PM   #9
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nc250, hell even a CB. Better suspension would be welcome too.
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Old 12-17-2020, 04:12 PM   #10
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I would say the 21/18 wheels would be the best change with minimal disruption to the bike. Fancier suggestions 1)fuel-injection might keep these on the 'good' side of the EPA now that first world countries, including (especially if some politicians have their way) the US, will have to super-sacrifice so 3rd world countries can continue to pollute. 2)Consider the NC250 engine or a higher end one. The benchmark of dual-sports, the CRF250L, is fuel-injected, liquid-cooled and costs $5k+. It would not necessarily have to be THE Brozz, but perhaps a higher-end dual-sport would be a welcome addition to the current Brozz. My guess is that a price $2k under the Honda and other Japanese competition would keep these competitive. The NC250 is a tried and tested engine and would make for a premium bike in the Peace dual-sport lineup.

Bashan used to have the Shark 250 which was a few hundred less $ than the Brozz, so I could see a future lineup that has the current Brozz continuing as is as. Then a newer, more dirt oriented Recon could come with 21/18 wheels (and perhaps fuel-injection and make it a new model like the Hawk DLX 250 became an actual 49-state EPA/DOT legal bike vs. the standard Hawk 250 which soldiered on from its inception) And then, the premium bike could be a model with 21/18 wheels, adjustable suspension, and the NC250 engine.

But if anything; 21/18 wheels, and like Megadan, stated if not stock, make them an option.
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Old 12-17-2020, 05:49 PM   #11
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Keep it air cooled to avoid complexity. Increase displacement to 275 to 300 cc-20 hp. 18 inch rear wheel and 21 inch front and a 520 oring chain. A 6 speed would be nice and maybe a trip meter. They are a good bike the way they are, these are what a Dream Brozz would be. Thanks for all you do for us and Happy Holidays!

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Old 12-17-2020, 07:22 PM   #12
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Honestly I like the Brozz pretty much the way it is with the exception of maybe a CB engine for a little more power. My problem with upgrades is getting the bike too far up in the price range. Under $2000 makes the Brozz a good value and that's what we like about the china bikes. I find left over brand new Japanese bikes heavily discounted and close to the $2000 benchmark, example is a 2019 Suzuki GSX 250R for $2999 that I have been looking at. I know its not an enduro but it's a nice bike that"s reliable and not much more money. The bottom line for me is, if the cost will rise with changes then I say leave a good thing be.
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Old 12-17-2020, 08:04 PM   #13
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Honestly I find left over brand new Japanese bikes heavily discounted and close to the $2000 benchmark, example is a 2019 Suzuki GSX 250R for $2999 that I have been looking at. I know its not an enduro but it's a nice bike that"s reliable and not much more money.
Not to be one of those 'know it all' types, but the Suzuki is made in China in a joint venture. I would have liked them to bring their 250 Vee Strom (same joint venture) instead of the GSXR.
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Old 12-17-2020, 09:25 PM   #14
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300 cc (a TRUE 300 cc) for more torque, then HP. Fuel injected.

Everything else can be sorted out in the garage on weekends.
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Old 12-17-2020, 09:31 PM   #15
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You'll be competing with the new 300's from Honda and Kawasaki...

Seems everyone suggests likewise, bigger rims and more displacement.


 
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