ELECTRIC CHOKE ON GY6 CARB

FLASHLIGHTBOY · 01-21-2010, 04:57 PM

Does anyone know if you can set the choke on the electric choke ? I would like it to rev the motor up when cold and then kick off when it warms up.... does it work like the ones on a car engine??? other wise I have to keep my foot on the throttle until it does warm up.... better than a cable still

.......... gy6 carb.. like ANTHONYS

Reveeen · 01-21-2010, 05:27 PM

There is no "setting", it either works, or it doesn't.

I would like it to rev the motor up when cold and then kick off when it warms up

You are looking for something with a fast idle cam hooked to the choke. To be truthful I have not seen a motorcycle type carb with this function, fuel injection, yes, but not a motorcycle carb.

other wise I have to keep my foot on the throttle until it does warm up

It is wintertime, I *think* you could safely block off the carb cooling duct, on the top of your fan housing, remembering to open it up next summer (or the fuel will boil in the float bowl).

FLASHLIGHTBOY · 01-21-2010, 06:49 PM

this cooling duct.. is it a hose?? on the carb?? I had thought the electric choke would work like a regular choke.. but I guess you just do not have the cable problem.. thanks for the help.

anthonyfa18 · 01-21-2010, 10:43 PM

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Most of the GY6 scooter engines seem to come equipped with the Keihin style CV carburetor with automatic choke. In theory, this is a nice feature - the choke turns on by itself when needed and then shuts itself off

it work with resistance so u just need to add power and a ground and you good to go.

Reveeen · 01-22-2010, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by FLASHLIGHTBOY

this cooling duct.. is it a hose?? on the carb??.

On the top of your fan housing (the plastic bit on the right side that covers the engine cooling fan you can see through the plastic screen) there is a molded plastic tube (about 1 1/4 in diameter) that does a right angle turn, and directs cooling air at the carb. Try a piece of duct tape over the end.

As I said there really isn't any "fast idle" function, try increasing the idle speed (with the idle stop screw) in the colder weather. The clutch really doesn't "come in" until you hit 1000rpm, so bumping the idle speed a bit won't hurt (setting the idle about 800rpm hot should give you 500-600rpm cold).

A "forced air" cooled engine will not behave the same as an "air cooled" engine in the cold, the warm up time is a lot longer, if cold enough it will never "warm up".

My wife once drove a Ford Escort 40 miles home with a burst rad hose @ -45F, it didn't overheat, mighty cold driving with no heater, but it didn't hurt the engine.

TurboT · 01-22-2010, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Reveeen

My wife once drove a Ford Escort 40 miles home with a burst rad hose @ -45F, it didn't overheat, mighty cold driving with no heater, but it didn't hurt the engine.

What about the water pump? 8O

waynev · 01-22-2010, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Reveeen

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Originally Posted by FLASHLIGHTBOY

this cooling duct.. is it a hose?? on the carb??.

On the top of your fan housing (the plastic bit on the right side that covers the engine cooling fan you can see through the plastic screen) there is a molded plastic tube (about 1 1/4 in diameter) that does a right angle turn, and directs cooling air at the carb. Try a piece of duct tape over the end.

As I said there really isn't any "fast idle" function, try increasing the idle speed (with the idle stop screw) in the colder weather. The clutch really doesn't "come in" until you hit 1000rpm, so bumping the idle speed a bit won't hurt (setting the idle about 800rpm hot should give you 500-600rpm cold).
A "forced air" cooled engine will not behave the same as an "air cooled" engine in the cold, the warm up time is a lot longer, if cold enough it will never "warm up".

I think Flashlightboy better fill us in, my guess is this carb has been mounted to a 200cc beast not a GY6 engine, right ? If it's on the beast then that cooling tube is non existant.

Reveeen · 01-22-2010, 08:13 AM

other wise I have to keep my foot on the throttle until it does warm up

Sounds to me like we are "talking" buggy of some sort, unless a Beast has a foot throttle?

waynev · 01-22-2010, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Reveeen

other wise I have to keep my foot on the throttle until it does warm up

Sounds to me like we are "talking" buggy of some sort, unless a Beast has a foot throttle?

Good point, he asked for some logo's so i know he has a few beasts and also referred to anthonys GY6 carb, but yes, foot on the throttle does sound like a buggy.

waynec · 01-22-2010, 10:13 PM

Antbody know what the 500cc Gio Rockliner went for jan 18th?? I see on the site tjhere was a one time , no reserve auction for one? I will be in the market at some point. I have a lane to plow/blow in my future.....thx....waynec

waynev · 01-22-2010, 10:19 PM

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Antbody know what the 500cc Gio Rockliner went for jan 18th?? I see on the site tjhere was a one time , no reserve auction for one? I will be in the market at some point. I have a lane to plow/blow in my future.....thx....waynec

I do believe it was in the 4300 range. There has been a few of them up lately for no reserve, usually 1 per week.

TurboT · 01-23-2010, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by waynev

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Originally Posted by waynec

Antbody know what the 500cc Gio Rockliner went for jan 18th?? I see on the site tjhere was a one time , no reserve auction for one? I will be in the market at some point. I have a lane to plow/blow in my future.....thx....waynec

I do believe it was in the 4300 range. There has been a few of them up lately for no reserve, usually 1 per week.

They look very nice. Wish I had the coin, but alas, I don't.

Strange spot for that question in the middle of this thread though!

waynec · 01-23-2010, 08:29 AM

Thanks..........that puts it just a little more expensive than the Baja from Canadian Tire and seems a whole lot more machine.

Yes i am a heinous offtopicer. :twisted: Sorry 'bout that. The question didn't seem worthy of its own thread though..........waynec

FLASHLIGHTBOY · 01-23-2010, 07:23 PM

Hello , as some of the help have said.. I have this on a 150 cc ZSTAR dune buggy.. same as a KINROAD.. and I guess I will just turn the idle up abit.. it sounds better when it warms up and it idles nice and low.. quiet .. it is too bad that it does not work on a fast idle.. I have many atvs.. as I also sell them.... ZSTAR DEALER... and GIO atvs.. But I have a 400 jianshe.. and a couple of the 200 cc GIO'S and a new 800 cc 3 cylinder KINROAD.. dune buggy .. Spring project to ride.. I may try to hook a little switch and a throttle fast idle to over come the wait time to warm up the carb.. we use a hair dryer for easier starting in the -30 C weather on the 150 cc dune buggy.. alot of nice ideas on the site.. everyone keep up the mods..

Reveeen · 01-23-2010, 08:53 PM

we use a hair dryer for easier starting

This is really not a good idea, while an electric hair drier is not an "open flame", it is the next best thing.

When I was but a wee lad my daddy used to use a 100W light bulb on an extension cord under the hood of his car in the winter. This way the first couple of air gulps the engine got on a cold winter morning were pre-heated. Same thing would work on your buggy, be about 100X safer, and maybe you could rig up an old blanket (carefully distant from the hot bulb) to keep the heat in.

01-21-2010, 04:57 PM	#1
FLASHLIGHTBOY Join Date: May 2009 Location: SASKATOON Posts: 1,161	ELECTRIC CHOKE ON GY6 CARB Does anyone know if you can set the choke on the electric choke ? I would like it to rev the motor up when cold and then kick off when it warms up.... does it work like the ones on a car engine??? other wise I have to keep my foot on the throttle until it does warm up.... better than a cable still .......... gy6 carb.. like ANTHONYS
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01-21-2010, 06:49 PM	#3
FLASHLIGHTBOY Join Date: May 2009 Location: SASKATOON Posts: 1,161	CARB COOLING DUCT this cooling duct.. is it a hose?? on the carb?? I had thought the electric choke would work like a regular choke.. but I guess you just do not have the cable problem.. thanks for the help.
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01-23-2010, 07:23 PM	#14
FLASHLIGHTBOY Join Date: May 2009 Location: SASKATOON Posts: 1,161	ELECTRIC CHOKE Hello , as some of the help have said.. I have this on a 150 cc ZSTAR dune buggy.. same as a KINROAD.. and I guess I will just turn the idle up abit.. it sounds better when it warms up and it idles nice and low.. quiet .. it is too bad that it does not work on a fast idle.. I have many atvs.. as I also sell them.... ZSTAR DEALER... and GIO atvs.. But I have a 400 jianshe.. and a couple of the 200 cc GIO'S and a new 800 cc 3 cylinder KINROAD.. dune buggy .. Spring project to ride.. I may try to hook a little switch and a throttle fast idle to over come the wait time to warm up the carb.. we use a hair dryer for easier starting in the -30 C weather on the 150 cc dune buggy.. alot of nice ideas on the site.. everyone keep up the mods..
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01-21-2010, 05:27 PM	#2
Reveeen Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: orbital platform Posts: 741	There is no "setting", it either works, or it doesn't. I would like it to rev the motor up when cold and then kick off when it warms up You are looking for something with a fast idle cam hooked to the choke. To be truthful I have not seen a motorcycle type carb with this function, fuel injection, yes, but not a motorcycle carb. other wise I have to keep my foot on the throttle until it does warm up It is wintertime, I think you could safely block off the carb cooling duct, on the top of your fan housing, remembering to open it up next summer (or the fuel will boil in the float bowl).
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01-22-2010, 08:13 AM	#8
Reveeen Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: orbital platform Posts: 741	other wise I have to keep my foot on the throttle until it does warm up Sounds to me like we are "talking" buggy of some sort, unless a Beast has a foot throttle?
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01-22-2010, 10:13 PM	#10
waynec Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Ottawa Posts: 119	Antbody know what the 500cc Gio Rockliner went for jan 18th?? I see on the site tjhere was a one time , no reserve auction for one? I will be in the market at some point. I have a lane to plow/blow in my future.....thx....waynec
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01-23-2010, 08:29 AM	#13
waynec Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Ottawa Posts: 119	Thanks..........that puts it just a little more expensive than the Baja from Canadian Tire and seems a whole lot more machine. Yes i am a heinous offtopicer. :twisted: Sorry 'bout that. The question didn't seem worthy of its own thread though..........waynec
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01-23-2010, 08:53 PM	#15
Reveeen Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: orbital platform Posts: 741	we use a hair dryer for easier starting This is really not a good idea, while an electric hair drier is not an "open flame", it is the next best thing. When I was but a wee lad my daddy used to use a 100W light bulb on an extension cord under the hood of his car in the winter. This way the first couple of air gulps the engine got on a cold winter morning were pre-heated. Same thing would work on your buggy, be about 100X safer, and maybe you could rig up an old blanket (carefully distant from the hot bulb) to keep the heat in.
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