New Upstate NY member

[manny]

Hello everyone....A quick into. I've been lurking around for a week or so now and have gained tons of very helpful info.

I'm in my mid 50's and looking for a dual sport "toy". I've pretty much narrowed it down to a Hawk 250 or the new Bashan Enforcer, but like all of you, I have been waiting for some reviews on the new Bashan. I'm in New York and I understand registering the Hawk here IS a problem.

I really don't want to do much road riding, but it would be nice to be able to legally travel down a road to get to trails, or even run a quick errand, etc., otherwise I'd just buy a Hawk.

I've owned bikes my whole life...Jap bikes. Currently i own a 10 year old Kawasaki 650 Brute Force 4x4, which I mainly use to plow snow. It's like a tank and I don't really enjoy trail riding with it, as I prefer something more nimble.

Honestly I think most of the parts for the Hawk will fit the Bashan, and this week they have the Bashan Enforcers on sale for $1049 plus approx $150 shipping, so for $1200 I could be a guinea pig, but I'd prefer to let someone else do that ugly job!! I think the Bashan has a few negatives to the Hawk, but it is also a little cheaper, and most important, can be licensed.

Another thing that adds to the confusion is there are several different models of the Hawk 250 ....and no doubt different models of the Bashan Enforcer!

Well, that's all for now. Thanks to all who have made this site great!!

Manny

[JerryHawk250]

Welcome to the forum. There are a few members here that had no issues registering there Hawk. Maybe some of them will chime in. I don't know about different models of hawks except for the year model. Most of them out there are 2016 models and may have a few 2015 models left in some ones old stock but most of the online dealers Hawks are shipped out of Texas through RPS and will be 2016's. The Bashan Enforcer looks very similar to the Hawk and makes me wonder if it's not the same bike. I'm very impressed with my Hawk and would buy another if I had to.

[bogieboy]

welcome from up north, north end of the fingerlakes... palmyra to be exact...

[culcune]

Originally Posted by manny

Another thing that adds to the confusion is there are several different models of the Hawk 250 ....and no doubt different models of the Bashan Enforcer!

Well, that's all for now. Thanks to all who have made this site great!!

Manny

Welcome to here. Actually, there is only one Hawk. Sometimes, mail-order retailers will slap their own made-up name to it, but it is a Hawk. Motobuys, for instance, has two ads for the Hawk with two different names, and even a price difference?! But these are the same Hawk as sold by RPS...

http://www.motobuys.com/vento-hen-enduro-250cc.html
http://www.motobuys.com/lancer-enduro-250.html

Bashan as a brand sells a few different models. They have the Storm, the Brozz, the Shark, and a model with less features than these three (sells for a few hundred dollars less). The Enforcer seemingly came out of nowhere a few weeks back, and is designed to look exactly like the Hawk (it is Bashan's 5th model in their recent lineup). You would probably do fine ordering it, and like you mentioned, you would have a far easier time registering it in NY. However, I do recall someone just recently posting they had success in NY registering a Hawk, or maybe I am getting older and confusing it with another state?! A couple newer members from NY bought the Brozz and liked it, so don't disregard other Bashan models unless you really have your heart set on the Hawk or the near identical-looking Enforcer.

[manny]

Thanks for explaining that culcune. Yes I see different prices from the same dealer often, just like the examples you posted....Feakin' crazy! I hate when they play games like that...It ruins there credibility IMO when they are trying to trick you right off the bat. Or maybe in some cases there are slight variations, who knows.

It was also great to hear the Hawk can be licensed in NY. I really don't know how important that is to me b/c I'm really going to mainly trail ride it, but it would be nice to be able to cruise legally to other trails, etc.

Well, this old man needs to go to physical therapy for another spin in the DR9000 decompression machine. So far I think it's hurting my back more than helping I won't be doing any moto x, that's for sure!!

[bogieboy]

Originally Posted by manny

Thanks for explaining that culcune. Yes I see different prices from the same dealer often, just like the examples you posted....Feakin' crazy! I hate when they play games like that...It ruins there credibility IMO when they are trying to trick you right off the bat. Or maybe in some cases there are slight variations, who knows.

It was also great to hear the Hawk can be licensed in NY. I really don't know how important that is to me b/c I'm really going to mainly trail ride it, but it would be nice to be able to cruise legally to other trails, etc.

Well, this old man needs to go to physical therapy for another spin in the DR9000 decompression machine. So far I think it's hurting my back more than helping I won't be doing any moto x, that's for sure!!

not really any different than Harbor freight.. look in thier mailers, and in the same mailer, 2-3 different prices for the same item in different spots.

[manny]

Good point. And I've had pretty good luck with most Harbor Freight Stuff. Like I bought one of their large cement mixers for a 30 bag job...80 pound bags, ugh! . The thing paid for itself on that one job and saved my back bigtime., and it still works like new. Assembly was fun though, probably worse than a Hawk I'll bet, lol. And they're Honda engine clones are awesome too.

So does anyone think one Hawk model is better than the other...the 2015 vs. 2016? or are they pretty much identical?

I'm in NY and have a few months til spring anyways so i have time, and maybe by then someone will post some reviews of the new Bashan...although it's February 23rd and it was like 65 degrees today and it's been so freakin; awesome the past few days. I actually saw some dude riding his lawn mower today That shit had a foot of snow on it days ago and surely ain't growing yet! But hey, the sun felt good probably.

Sorry...rambling Peaceout!

[timcosby]

Originally Posted by manny

Good point. And I've had pretty good luck with most Harbor Freight Stuff. Like I bought one of their large cement mixers for a 30 bag job...80 pound bags, ugh! . The thing paid for itself on that one job and saved my back bigtime., and it still works like new. Assembly was fun though, probably worse than a Hawk I'll bet, lol. And they're Honda engine clones are awesome too.

So does anyone think one Hawk model is better than the other...the 2015 vs. 2016? or are they pretty much identical?

I'm in NY and have a few months til spring anyways so i have time, and maybe by then someone will post some reviews of the new Bashan...although it's February 23rd and it was like 65 degrees today and it's been so freakin; awesome the past few days. I actually saw some dude riding his lawn mower today That shit had a foot of snow on it days ago and surely ain't growing yet! But hey, the sun felt good probably.

Sorry...rambling Peaceout!

i got my 2016 hawk at the end of 2016 and seems they have addressed the chain issue cause after 700 miles i still havent had to adjust the chain so it looks like they are getting better and better.

[bogieboy]

Man I tell ya... if my bike didnt need inspected and a new starter solenoid I would be riding to work today...LOL

[Jaybay33]

Hi everyone, Im new to the forum and thinking of purchasing an enforcer this week. Does anyone know how much assembly is required. I talked to Don and he said all you have to do is put on the front wheel and fender and its good to go. He said probably an hour tops for assembly. Can anyone verify this?

[culcune]

Originally Posted by Jaybay33

Hi everyone, Im new to the forum and thinking of purchasing an enforcer this week. Does anyone know how much assembly is required. I talked to Don and he said all you have to do is put on the front wheel and fender and its good to go. He said probably an hour tops for assembly. Can anyone verify this?

Don is such a comedian...

[timcosby]

Originally Posted by culcune

Don is such a comedian...

yea i saw the part where he designed the enforcer.......

[manny]

Originally Posted by timcosby

yea i saw the part where he designed the enforcer.......

Well in his defense I'm not exactly sure how he worded it...Anyone who's spoken to him knows he likes to talk up a storm, like any good salesman, but he did indicate some involvement in it's design, I thought. And he very well may have been giving them input. Like everything with these Chinese bikes, who knows!

[Jaybay33]

Thanks for all the info guys. Ski rush, did you have any issues registering it?

[manny]

Originally Posted by Jaybay33

Hi everyone, Im new to the forum and thinking of purchasing an enforcer this week. Does anyone know how much assembly is required. I talked to Don and he said all you have to do is put on the front wheel and fender and its good to go. He said probably an hour tops for assembly. Can anyone verify this?

Hey JayBay, welcome...I just ordered an Enforcer from Don earlier this week and haven't heard anything about shipping yet...I actually wrote him yesterday and said I'd like a green one IF they are available when you're ready to ship, and he did write right back. His communication has been great so far...and I'm in no hurry since I'm in a frozen tundra ATM.

Got to take a spin on my Kawy 650 this morning...up and down the driveway plowing it Sooooo freakin' cold out there!