Tao tao 125D question

Icguy · 03-13-2014, 10:58 AM

Hello everyone. Got myself a bit of a problem I think. I bought this 125D for my grandson thinking it might be a bit much for him. I live on a 5 acre piece of hill lol and if there is a flat spot on it I aint found it yet. I never thought a 125cc machine would have problems going up inclines carring a skinny little 7 year old kid but thats the problem lol. It runs fine and even pulled my fat behind at the dealer to get it loaded but just sits and revs when it sees the smallest incline. Any help would be appreciated. Right now I am thinking of dropping thefront sproket to a 12 tooth and getting a 42 tooth for the rear.

katoranger · 03-13-2014, 02:08 PM

That is probably the best thing you can do. Is this one of the forward/neutral/reverse type of transmissions?

Icguy · 03-13-2014, 02:20 PM

Yes its the fnr type. I should have mentioned that lol. Also is it normal for these to smoke when they get warmed up? It isn't a lot of smoke but it's enough to notice.

FLASHLIGHTBOY · 03-13-2014, 08:04 PM

Hello , first of all change the oil to 15w -40... it may have the factory shipping oil in it .... and check on you tube on how to adjust the clutch... it may need adjusting.... they usually are ok right from the start... but a check on the adjustment would be good to do..... and yes if you want more climbing power change the gears.... WELDAND GRIND has a lot of experience on that and can tell you where to get lower gearing... does it work good with his weight on the atv????? and it is slow with your weight???? I am 200 lbs and when I build them they carry me no problem.... so as I say .. check the clutch adjustment

katoranger · 03-13-2014, 09:29 PM

Flashlightboy, would you be able to tell him how to adjust the clutch on that type. Is the same as the xr50?

Icguy · 03-14-2014, 12:44 AM

Thanks for the replies! I will change the oil first thing in the morning and check youtube to learn how to adjust the clutch. Oh and no I won't get on it as I am way too big for it lol. I had my wife run it around the land a few times to check things out. She tips the scales at about 115.
Now I have to ask a stupid question. This bike has the cvt belt style. Does it still have a clutch?

FLASHLIGHTBOY · 03-14-2014, 02:37 AM

the 125 D atv FROM TAOTAO does nto have a cvt...... it just has a chain that drives the rear axle... the clutch engages when you put it into gear to drive the output shaft of the transmission... as you say it does not move forward to well when you put it into gear... this usually means the clutch is slipping... was this brand new when you bought it??? as I would take it back to the dealer if it was like this brand new... if the clutch adjustment does not help... and when you drain the oil out... look for metal in th e oil... you may have blown th e clutch... does the motor rev up ok when in neutral??? as if the carb is nto adjusted right ... it will nto let it power up to drive the atv... need some info but try the new oil and clutch adjustment..

Icguy · 03-14-2014, 12:59 PM

Yep your right no cvt. Changed the oil but not started it yet. Since i already have the foot rest off i am going to try to get some info on adjusting the clutch. Yes this bike is new from a dealer here in town. The engine revs fine in N. I think the idle may be a fuzz too high though but not sure. When in N it revs good without a stumble or anything so I should probably leave that be for now. I didnt see any metal in the oil but the oil did have a very faint gas smell.

Icguy · 03-14-2014, 02:03 PM

Well I'm happy now lol. No smoke and got the clutch adjusted a little better than it was. Now it pulls pleny good for the youngins till they get better and more comfortable with it. May change sprokets at that time. Thanks for all the help!

Weldangrind · 03-18-2014, 11:01 AM

Relax, Flashlightboy. That's not what he's saying.

He's saying that it's a good idea to join ChinaRiders, because Excalibur is "not great at diagnosing problems or knowing too much about maintenance."

Icguy · 03-18-2014, 05:39 PM

I was happy with the help i got. It was what i needed....... thanks

FLASHLIGHTBOY · 03-19-2014, 12:35 AM

Ok I guess maybe I read it wrong... sorry If I offended anyone... just trying to help and steer guys the right way... as there is a lot ot learn and understand and I hate it when a person gets to carried away fixing things instead of keeping it simple as most of know these are simple and easy to fix and keep running.... just use the right gas... keep bolts tight.. and adjust the chain properly... otherwise it all goes to hell..

bubby32 · 12-02-2014, 01:52 AM

can't figure this out, I can cross the solenoid over and it will start and run, but no lights...will not start by starter button. Tao tao 125 manual shift. Tried the brakes while starting and all that

Weldangrind · 12-02-2014, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by bubby32

can't figure this out, I can cross the solenoid over and it will start and run, but no lights...will not start by starter button. Tao tao 125 manual shift. Tried the brakes while starting and all that

Welcome!

Is there any voltage to the primary side of the solenoid when you hit the starter button? Remove the small wires from the solenoid, connect a test light or meter to the wires, turn on the key, activate the brakes and hit the starter switch. Any sign of power there?

katoranger · 12-02-2014, 10:05 AM

Check the keyswitch. It may not be working. My buggy will continue to run with the switch off, but does not charge the battery or run the lights unless the switch is on. You have to use the kill switch to shut it off.

03-13-2014, 10:58 AM	#1
Icguy Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 6	Tao tao 125D question Hello everyone. Got myself a bit of a problem I think. I bought this 125D for my grandson thinking it might be a bit much for him. I live on a 5 acre piece of hill lol and if there is a flat spot on it I aint found it yet. I never thought a 125cc machine would have problems going up inclines carring a skinny little 7 year old kid but thats the problem lol. It runs fine and even pulled my fat behind at the dealer to get it loaded but just sits and revs when it sees the smallest incline. Any help would be appreciated. Right now I am thinking of dropping thefront sproket to a 12 tooth and getting a 42 tooth for the rear.
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03-13-2014, 02:08 PM	#2
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	That is probably the best thing you can do. Is this one of the forward/neutral/reverse type of transmissions? __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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03-13-2014, 08:04 PM	#4
FLASHLIGHTBOY Join Date: May 2009 Location: SASKATOON Posts: 1,161	smoke Hello , first of all change the oil to 15w -40... it may have the factory shipping oil in it .... and check on you tube on how to adjust the clutch... it may need adjusting.... they usually are ok right from the start... but a check on the adjustment would be good to do..... and yes if you want more climbing power change the gears.... WELDAND GRIND has a lot of experience on that and can tell you where to get lower gearing... does it work good with his weight on the atv????? and it is slow with your weight???? I am 200 lbs and when I build them they carry me no problem.... so as I say .. check the clutch adjustment __________________ DEALER FOR ZSTAR & GIO PRODUCTS, TAOTAO ABIBABA ATV ETC
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03-13-2014, 09:29 PM	#5
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	Flashlightboy, would you be able to tell him how to adjust the clutch on that type. Is the same as the xr50? __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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03-14-2014, 02:37 AM	#7
FLASHLIGHTBOY Join Date: May 2009 Location: SASKATOON Posts: 1,161	cvt??? the 125 D atv FROM TAOTAO does nto have a cvt...... it just has a chain that drives the rear axle... the clutch engages when you put it into gear to drive the output shaft of the transmission... as you say it does not move forward to well when you put it into gear... this usually means the clutch is slipping... was this brand new when you bought it??? as I would take it back to the dealer if it was like this brand new... if the clutch adjustment does not help... and when you drain the oil out... look for metal in th e oil... you may have blown th e clutch... does the motor rev up ok when in neutral??? as if the carb is nto adjusted right ... it will nto let it power up to drive the atv... need some info but try the new oil and clutch adjustment.. __________________ DEALER FOR ZSTAR & GIO PRODUCTS, TAOTAO ABIBABA ATV ETC
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03-13-2014, 02:20 PM	#3
Icguy Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 6	Yes its the fnr type. I should have mentioned that lol. Also is it normal for these to smoke when they get warmed up? It isn't a lot of smoke but it's enough to notice.
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03-14-2014, 12:44 AM	#6
Icguy Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 6	Thanks for the replies! I will change the oil first thing in the morning and check youtube to learn how to adjust the clutch. Oh and no I won't get on it as I am way too big for it lol. I had my wife run it around the land a few times to check things out. She tips the scales at about 115. Now I have to ask a stupid question. This bike has the cvt belt style. Does it still have a clutch?
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03-14-2014, 12:59 PM	#8
Icguy Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 6	Yep your right no cvt. Changed the oil but not started it yet. Since i already have the foot rest off i am going to try to get some info on adjusting the clutch. Yes this bike is new from a dealer here in town. The engine revs fine in N. I think the idle may be a fuzz too high though but not sure. When in N it revs good without a stumble or anything so I should probably leave that be for now. I didnt see any metal in the oil but the oil did have a very faint gas smell.
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03-14-2014, 02:03 PM	#9
Icguy Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 6	Well I'm happy now lol. No smoke and got the clutch adjusted a little better than it was. Now it pulls pleny good for the youngins till they get better and more comfortable with it. May change sprokets at that time. Thanks for all the help!
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03-18-2014, 11:01 AM	#10
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Relax, Flashlightboy. That's not what he's saying. He's saying that it's a good idea to join ChinaRiders, because Excalibur is "not great at diagnosing problems or knowing too much about maintenance." __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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03-18-2014, 05:39 PM	#11
Icguy Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 6	I was happy with the help i got. It was what i needed....... thanks
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03-19-2014, 12:35 AM	#12
FLASHLIGHTBOY Join Date: May 2009 Location: SASKATOON Posts: 1,161	HELP on Chinariders Ok I guess maybe I read it wrong... sorry If I offended anyone... just trying to help and steer guys the right way... as there is a lot ot learn and understand and I hate it when a person gets to carried away fixing things instead of keeping it simple as most of know these are simple and easy to fix and keep running.... just use the right gas... keep bolts tight.. and adjust the chain properly... otherwise it all goes to hell.. __________________ DEALER FOR ZSTAR & GIO PRODUCTS, TAOTAO ABIBABA ATV ETC
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12-02-2014, 01:52 AM	#13
bubby32 Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 1	clueless can't figure this out, I can cross the solenoid over and it will start and run, but no lights...will not start by starter button. Tao tao 125 manual shift. Tried the brakes while starting and all that
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12-02-2014, 10:05 AM	#15
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	Check the keyswitch. It may not be working. My buggy will continue to run with the switch off, but does not charge the battery or run the lights unless the switch is on. You have to use the kill switch to shut it off. __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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