Hawk 250 DLX

[Vingotti]

Perhaps this is a sneak peak of what the new EFI Hawk will be. Check out KMT CFR250.

[redneck51587]

I already have a Hawk 250. I have heard about the DLX model but also that it will carry a hefty price tag of $3k!!! That is more than double the price of the original hawk 250

[redneck51587]

http://m.china-motorbike.com/sdm/128...ine_avail.html

Is this what you were talking about??

[shanesaw]

Originally Posted by redneck51587

http://m.china-motorbike.com/sdm/128...ine_avail.html

Is this what you were talking about??

That website has a ton of bikes! I hope someone imports that kmt200...that thing looks like a tw200 with the big fat rear wheel.

[ben2go]

Originally Posted by redneck51587

http://m.china-motorbike.com/sdm/128...ine_avail.html

Is this what you were talking about??

That is a water cooled EFI Hawk.

[Megadan]

For $3000, that thing better come with more than just EFI. I can add EFI to my Hawk for $200-300 right now.

For $3000, it better have the following.
1. Better forks - I.E. Fast Ace or equivalent USD forks.
2. Better rear shock - preload and rebound adjustment at a minimum.
3. Better rear swing arm - Not the stamped steel nonsense that can crush from tightening the rear axle nut.
4. Better hubs, spokes, and rims - Self explanatory.
5. Better plastic quality.
6 Better fasteners, bearings, and other misc hardware.

It better be an amazing machine for that price point, because $3,000 is GOOD used Japanese enduro territory.

Also, not to be picky, but for a bit more than 3 grand I can get an LXR250F - a bike that has some serious hardware AND a liquid cooled engine with 20 more cc's, 10+ more hp and 1 more gear in the trans. So it better at least come somewhat close to matching that bike for anybody to shell out that kind of cash for.

[Goshawk]

At $690 per unit cost, minimum order ten, I have to wonder where the sum of $3000 is conjured up from? As things stand, all Chinese bikes depend on being, "very affordable", which is a polite euphemism for cheap; Otherwise people would flee in droves to used or new Jap bikes. Someone in southern New Hampshire is trying to off load 2017 Hawks for $1900 a pop, and apparently has several, at least. I do wonder how he got them and what his margins are if FI bikes are $690?

[JerryHawk250]

The only problem is I don't see is that it's not EPA certified for off or on road.

[shanesaw]

Originally Posted by Goshawk

At $690 per unit cost, minimum order ten, I have to wonder where the sum of $3000 is conjured up from? As things stand, all Chinese bikes depend on being, "very affordable", which is a polite euphemism for cheap; Otherwise people would flee in droves to used or new Jap bikes. Someone in southern New Hampshire is trying to off load 2017 Hawks for $1900 a pop, and apparently has several, at least. I do wonder how he got them and what his margins are if FI bikes are $690?

I saw that someone was selling them for that in southern NH. Also there was a guy in central VT selling them for 1900 and had a few taotao quads as well.

My guess is these guys are not importers and are buying the hawks for 1399 and just trying to make a few bucks on Craiglist. If they buy 5 and make 400/500 profit on 4 bikes they get the 5th one free.

[dpl096]

No thank you....I'll keep my 3 grand....

[Goshawk]

"I saw that someone was selling them for that in southern NH. Also there was a guy in central VT selling them for 1900 and had a few taotao quads as well.

My guess is these guys are not importers and are buying the hawks for 1399 and just trying to make a few bucks on Craiglist. If they buy 5 and make 400/500 profit on 4 bikes they get the 5th one free."

Possibly so, but my point is, if fuel injected bikes are $690, (probably "Free on Board" in China somewhere) what must the 250RPS Hawk be, given the speculated $1600 price hike? FI does not cost that much. It is all speculation and for myself FI will not provide what I want ie 32HP, six speed trans with a tall 6th gear. I won't be holding my breath.

[Megadan]

Originally Posted by Goshawk

Possibly so, but my point is, if fuel injected bikes are $690, (probably "Free on Board" in China somewhere) what must the 250RPS Hawk be, given the speculated $1600 price hike? FI does not cost that much. It is all speculation and for myself FI will not provide what I want ie 32HP, six speed trans with a tall 6th gear. I won't be holding my breath.

Which goes back to my comment. For that price increase, even if it didn't have the kind of power you want, it better have a bunch of other hardware to back up that insane price hike. If it is just a Hawk with a water cooled, EFI, version of the CG motor making 18hp. I will spend my money elsewhere.

Now, if it can hold a candle to the higher end bikes offered by Pitster Pro and SSR - aka Fast Ace suspension with actual travel, alloy rims and hubs, etc. Maybe.

[wrastu]

This may have been covered, however what is this? Looks like a regular Hawk?

They claim 75mph top speed.....

https://www.tuffatvs.com/Detail.cfm?id=99

[JerryHawk250]

I see it as false advertisement. Looks like a regular Hawk to me in the pictures. I would request actual pictures of these upgrades.

UPGRADES ALL OVER THIS ONE, HENCE THE DLX (deluxe) NAME!! Heavy Duty, reinforced fame, aluminum triple tree/forks, aluminum handlebars, aluminum footpegs, enhanced engine for more power on the low end, Hi-Flow exhaust and piping!!

I see no evidence of these upgrades in the pictures. The Hawk comes with steel handle bars, steel foot pegs and a plugged up exhaust. Now if they actually do have these upgrades it would be a great price. The Hawk is capable of 75mph but not in stock form. It will take some fine tuning and mods.

[JerryHawk250]

Just for the heck of it I requested more information on the upgrades. Lets see what they come back with.