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06-22-2015, 09:23 AM | #1 |
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my ricky hawk 250cc (acually 230) dual sport enduro
Bought a pair of these from killer motorsports shipped for $2300.
Assembly was fairly easy but both bikes came with different amounts and types of bolts and washer. first bike (I will refer to as black) I put together I had 2 or 3 bolts left over and 3 rubber pieces I couldn't figure our where they went. On the second bikes(I will refer to as blue ) I ran out of 2 bolts and had to use my extra ones from the black bike. On the black bike the fender that is used for air cleaner acess did not seem to fit right and I had to bend the bolt mount to make it fit. I also had to carefully turn every bolt as they easily can strip, in addition I used thread locker on every bolt I used. After the initial start I changed the oil with Rotella 15w40. The First Impression Was Very Decent Low end Power. When i hit the trails it went over everything with ease. Steep Uphills, deep mud, tree roots etc. top end the bike reached 50mph fairly easily but after that s as fast as it really would go. Problem with both bikes was they would not go into neutral with the engines running. Literally could not click into it when stoped from first. Couldn't even click into second. Had to kill bikes and then put in neutral. on the black bike I changed the oil to synthetic royal purple 15w40, lowered the idle to where it would just barely stay running and adjusted the clutch tigher.and replaced the spark plug. This seemed to help during a short run but I need to test on a longer run. The blue bike during its first ride developed a constantly on neutral light that won't turn off no matter what gear. It also got its clutch cable snagged on brush and I had to repair it and readjust cable. It wasn't stretched or anything just damaged insolation. I zip tied them to the frame so they won't get snagged again. Both bikes needed the headlights pointed way up to see at night. On the black bike the adjusted screw wasn't enough and I had to wedge a piece of rubber between the lamp and cover. I plan on installing tach on both to set the idle properly and use it for proper shift points as the motor scream and rattles and it's hard to distinguish midrange from high range. I like that they are very quiet low end (perfect or trail riding in the forest preserves ) by my house and they seem to want to pop wheelies |
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06-22-2015, 09:31 AM | #2 |
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More pics
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06-22-2015, 09:51 AM | #3 |
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Very nice. These bikes require tweaking for sure. Myself I consider that half the fun. Sitting around with nothing to do or better yet having too much to do and stressed out. Go to the garage and tinker with your China bike.
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06-22-2015, 11:37 AM | #4 | |
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Also, after removing the carb several times, I have had an intermittent no spark condition, which I now think was my main issue all along. I think I'm going to pull the tank and go over the wiring as well, perhaps try a different CDI. Kill switch not functioning as engine will run regardless. I'm also having difficulty finding neutral, but that is the least of my worries w/ the bike not running properly. Any suggestions or merely a shoulder to cry on greatly appreciated. Seems a very nice bike, just hoping I can get it sorted. Thanks, wilser |
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06-22-2015, 11:38 AM | #5 |
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I completely agree. There are times when I enjoy working on bikes more than riding them.
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06-22-2015, 06:51 PM | #6 |
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First thing I'd do is check the spark plug and make sure the spark plug cap is properly screwed on to the wire. Then unplug the kill wire from the CDI to see if that stops the intermittent misfire. Assuming it uses a 6 wire CDI the kill wire is the top one in the 2 wire connector. Top meaning as you're looking at the CDI from the plug side, plugs toward the top.
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06-24-2015, 06:02 AM | #7 |
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Those are good looking motorcycles.
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06-25-2015, 09:13 AM | #8 |
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Does anyone have an idea that these bikes are cloned of? I've seen posts saying yamaha 225 and I've seen posts saying honda crf230? I think the engine is pushrod however.
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06-25-2015, 01:24 PM | #9 |
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The engine is a Honda CG clone. Excellent engines that almost no one in the US is familiar with because it was never imported. Here's Honda's page about the development of the CG.
http://world.honda.com/history/challenge/1975cg125/ |
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06-25-2015, 11:14 PM | #10 |
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Nice!
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07-02-2015, 02:10 AM | #11 |
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Those bikes come with some very aggressive off road knobbie tires! I would wear them out and go with some milder dual sport type tires.
But, they look like nice rides!!
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08-10-2015, 06:52 PM | #12 |
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anyone have any idea where I might be able to pick up a clutch cable and front brake lever that would work with this bike? Buddy of mine dropped the bike over the weekend when his rear tire locked up riding over a wet bridge and layed the bike down. The lever broke like a candy cane. Didn't even look metal...some sort of composite.
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07-13-2015, 11:22 AM | #13 |
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My Hawk is approaching 200 miles and it seems like the trans is loosening up and finding neutral is getting easier, yet it is still rather difficult with the engine running. My solution for the time being is to not shift to neutral
No problem finding neutral with the bike shut off. Just curious, why do you need neutral with the bike running? I just keep the clutch pulled in.... In my experience, finding neutral can be finicky on lots of bikes. The Hawks transmission does seem a little tight, but not sure I would say mine has a "shifting issue". |
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07-13-2015, 03:15 PM | #14 |
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There are riders that say you should leave the bike in gear at traffic stops, in case you have to make a quick gettaway from a traffic problem. Like a car driver obviously can't stop in time, and will crush you. Myself, I shift into neutral to save wear and tear on the clutch throwout mechanism.
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07-13-2015, 06:53 PM | #15 |
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I downshift into first gear as I stop. I leave the bike in first gear, and watch my mirrors until someone stops behind me. Only then will I even consider shifting into neutral.
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