What would you change about the Hawk?

Adam Rinkleff · 02-26-2016, 12:05 PM

I'm curious what people's suggestions for improvement are, I know two real common ones are swapping out the sprockets and the carb, what else? Be specific, and I'll try to compile a list and send it to the factory. Maybe they'll release the Hawk 2.0?

Fame28 · 02-26-2016, 12:17 PM

I personally think that they need to eliminate the buzzer for the turn signals, a key lock access to remove the seat easier and send an actual instruction manual with the bike for all the torque specs (ie: valve's) and focus their attention on applying to get the bikes street legal in at least the 49 states without having to go the Vermont route. These may bring the cost of the bike up another 100 bucks, but it would be very worth while for sales and dealers would be more inclined to sell the bikes at their stores across the U.S. if it were fully legal.

SeerAtlas · 02-26-2016, 12:42 PM

Ok, height versions, 21/18 , 19/17 options. Also knobbie vs dual-sport. tire versions. Wider ratio gearbox. Upgrade to rear swing arm. Tach,barkbuster type option.rear rack option( though sadle bags work just fine for me)optional laaaarge gas tank.tho the stocker is good as is.better, longer shift lever. Better foot pegs.better sealed wheelbearings.o ring chain.

TXDSRIDER · 02-26-2016, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SeerAtlas

Ok, height versions, 21/18 , 19/17 options. Also knobbie vs dual-sport. tire versions. Wider ratio gearbox. Upgrade to rear swing arm. Tach,barkbuster type option.rear rack option( though sadle bags work just fine for me)optional laaaarge gas tank.tho the stocker is good as is.better, longer shift lever. Better foot pegs.better sealed wheelbearings.o ring chain.

I don't think optional equipment is going to work unless they get real dealers like csc with the tt. But we can dream.

TXDSRIDER · 02-26-2016, 12:52 PM

Reasonably I'd like to see a tachometer usd forks and maybe 2 sets of tire rim combo offered one off road one on road oriented. That's all I can think of right now.

Sport Rider · 02-26-2016, 02:15 PM

Adam,
forget about the sprockets. those are things that people change to suit their taste, so you'd never get consensus on that. focus on the gear ratios. the lower ratios are ok, but spread them out more going to 3, 4 and 5. that would improve street top end.

mounting for rack and bags would be useful for me. make it adventure sport ready. perhaps produce a dual sport ready bike similar to the storm with road ready tires.

counterbalanced motor (might as well make a dream list)

pegs need some attention. the rubber ones are too small and don't grip on trail.

someone may know the answer to this.....is it possible to get 19/17 rims that fit our hawk???? point me to them??? I'd like to have a set of each based on how I plan to ride.

fitze · 02-26-2016, 04:54 PM

A better brake design.

SeerAtlas · 02-27-2016, 04:34 AM

add some more color options, white, orange and silver to start.better foot pegs.

culcune · 02-27-2016, 06:25 AM

I think 17/45 sprockets as stock would be a far better starting point. Most people are buying these for riding on the road, as a pure dirt bike would make more sense for someone planning primarily off-road riding. The current setup is pretty much pure dirt.

Wolftrax · 02-27-2016, 07:48 AM

I have close to a 1000 miles on my Hawk. Overall for the price it is a tremendous value. I wouldn't change a thing on this bike. The beauty of the Haosen 250 is parts for modifying this great little bike are dirt cheap. Sprockets, carbs, etc. all will be personal choices and undoubtedly what ever upgrades you put on before shipping will be changed by the owner. It's a great little platform that can be readily and inexpensively modified to suit the needs of the end user. Whether that be pure dirt, commuter or overland travel. I'm really digging this little bike.

Haosen 250 Adventure

pistolclass · 02-27-2016, 08:57 AM

I would love for them to get it nhtsa approved. The is the big issue in these parts.

Torgo · 02-27-2016, 09:35 AM

Since you're marketing it as street legal (at least in red states) with the basic equipment to do so, it'd be nice to have an option for dual sport tires instead of the knobbys. Maybe be able to select that option along with the color.

Beyond that, I'd keep it as is, and make sure that the price point keeps people interested in it. As you can see from around here, carb settings, sprocket choices, and type of driving are user preferences. It's a a great value and for another $100 or so, most folks seem to be able to trick it out how they like.

fitze · 02-27-2016, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by pistolclass

I would love for them to get it nhtsa approved. The is the big issue in these parts.

I don't understand nhtsa approved, do you have any info or web links so I can understand it more.

timcosby · 11-08-2016, 07:12 PM

an assembly manual would of saved me a lot of time guessing and maybe have the bolts to each part in seperate and labeled bags would be great.

pistolclass · 11-08-2016, 08:19 PM

A DOT Sticker.

02-26-2016, 12:05 PM	#1
Adam Rinkleff Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 147	What would you change about the Hawk? I'm curious what people's suggestions for improvement are, I know two real common ones are swapping out the sprockets and the carb, what else? Be specific, and I'll try to compile a list and send it to the factory. Maybe they'll release the Hawk 2.0?
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02-26-2016, 12:42 PM	#3
SeerAtlas Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 770	Ok, height versions, 21/18 , 19/17 options. Also knobbie vs dual-sport. tire versions. Wider ratio gearbox. Upgrade to rear swing arm. Tach,barkbuster type option.rear rack option( though sadle bags work just fine for me)optional laaaarge gas tank.tho the stocker is good as is.better, longer shift lever. Better foot pegs.better sealed wheelbearings.o ring chain. __________________ Seer's First LAW-"FLY THE PLANE!", fail that, and nothing else matters. 12th Law- Consider what marvels you might do if only you had tomorrow to live over again. Third Law-When someone tells you some thing "Can't Be Done", what they're really saying is They can't do it!!14th Law-Just because something "IS", doesn't necessarily mean it SHOULD be.. Eighth Law-The only true personal security is anonymity.Ninth Law-Humans tend to learn very little when speaking.10th Law-Some lives ARE worth taking
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02-26-2016, 12:52 PM	#5
TXDSRIDER Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Houston Tx Posts: 157	Reasonably I'd like to see a tachometer usd forks and maybe 2 sets of tire rim combo offered one off road one on road oriented. That's all I can think of right now. __________________ Brandon 2014 Hawk 250 Firehawk minibike Previous bikes~ 1995 Yamaha YZ125 1998 Yamaha YZ250 1981 Yamaha YZ465 1987 Honda TRX 250R X2 one stock one modified 2002 Buell Blast 2001 Buell X1 Lightning 2000 Kawasaki ZR7
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02-27-2016, 04:34 AM	#8
SeerAtlas Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 770	add some more color options, white, orange and silver to start.better foot pegs. __________________ Seer's First LAW-"FLY THE PLANE!", fail that, and nothing else matters. 12th Law- Consider what marvels you might do if only you had tomorrow to live over again. Third Law-When someone tells you some thing "Can't Be Done", what they're really saying is They can't do it!!14th Law-Just because something "IS", doesn't necessarily mean it SHOULD be.. Eighth Law-The only true personal security is anonymity.Ninth Law-Humans tend to learn very little when speaking.10th Law-Some lives ARE worth taking
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02-27-2016, 06:25 AM	#9
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,035	I think 17/45 sprockets as stock would be a far better starting point. Most people are buying these for riding on the road, as a pure dirt bike would make more sense for someone planning primarily off-road riding. The current setup is pretty much pure dirt. __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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02-26-2016, 12:17 PM	#2
Fame28 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Kingston, NY Posts: 66	I personally think that they need to eliminate the buzzer for the turn signals, a key lock access to remove the seat easier and send an actual instruction manual with the bike for all the torque specs (ie: valve's) and focus their attention on applying to get the bikes street legal in at least the 49 states without having to go the Vermont route. These may bring the cost of the bike up another 100 bucks, but it would be very worth while for sales and dealers would be more inclined to sell the bikes at their stores across the U.S. if it were fully legal.
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02-26-2016, 02:15 PM	#6
Sport Rider Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Mooresville NC Posts: 2,041	Adam, forget about the sprockets. those are things that people change to suit their taste, so you'd never get consensus on that. focus on the gear ratios. the lower ratios are ok, but spread them out more going to 3, 4 and 5. that would improve street top end. mounting for rack and bags would be useful for me. make it adventure sport ready. perhaps produce a dual sport ready bike similar to the storm with road ready tires. counterbalanced motor (might as well make a dream list) pegs need some attention. the rubber ones are too small and don't grip on trail. someone may know the answer to this.....is it possible to get 19/17 rims that fit our hawk???? point me to them??? I'd like to have a set of each based on how I plan to ride.
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02-27-2016, 08:57 AM	#11
pistolclass Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: connecticut Posts: 978	I would love for them to get it nhtsa approved. The is the big issue in these parts.
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02-27-2016, 09:35 AM	#12
Torgo Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Texas Posts: 93	Since you're marketing it as street legal (at least in red states) with the basic equipment to do so, it'd be nice to have an option for dual sport tires instead of the knobbys. Maybe be able to select that option along with the color. Beyond that, I'd keep it as is, and make sure that the price point keeps people interested in it. As you can see from around here, carb settings, sprocket choices, and type of driving are user preferences. It's a a great value and for another $100 or so, most folks seem to be able to trick it out how they like.
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11-08-2016, 07:12 PM	#14
timcosby Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: robertsdale alabama usa Posts: 1,007	manual an assembly manual would of saved me a lot of time guessing and maybe have the bolts to each part in seperate and labeled bags would be great.
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11-08-2016, 08:19 PM	#15
pistolclass Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: connecticut Posts: 978	A DOT Sticker.
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