Go Back   ChinaRiders Forums > Technical/Performance > Pure Dirt
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 12-31-2022, 11:47 PM   #1
AJ22_ChinaRider   AJ22_ChinaRider is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2022
Posts: 105
Motocross/Track-worthy Chonda?

Hiya there, Experts! (Compared to my limited dirt/track knowledge, anyone qualifies to be one )

Which Chonda would make a good entry/moderate level motorcross/dirt track-able vehicle?

I've ZERO dirt/offroad experience, so it'd be limited to short straight line jumps, basic obstacle courses, slowish rhythm sections etc.,

Planning to get one within the month, so I can practice basic routines, balancing etc., or attend some dirt bike skills camps and be ready by Summer. *Please* share your inputs and guide me .

Thanks in advance, and a Happy, Safe, Fun, Adventure-filled New Year to everyone!!


 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2023, 09:07 AM   #2
TominMO   TominMO is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: De Soto, MO
Posts: 1,976
So three strategies. I'm a total offroad noob myself so I can't talk about specific bikes, just goals.

$
Buy something cheap to learn on and that you can beat up without too much remorse. Then move up to $$ or $$$.

$$
Spend a bit more to get something you can upgrade or is good enough as is for both a complete beginner and someone moderately experienced. Perhaps the most practical option for most people.

$$$
Buy once, cry once. Get the bike you want to end up with. Cheapest option in the long run, because you only bought one bike.
__________________
2021 Lifan Xpect--sold
2022 Lifan KPX
1972 Honda CT90--The Carrot
1969 Honda CT90--The Tomahto
Cheesy is the WDK (workplace drama king). Now retired. Nope, back in the saddle. Nope, finally retired.
Climate: The Movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A24fWmNA6lM
How our government really works https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjadCd0VRBw
Question all authority.....think for yourself


 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2023, 08:37 PM   #3
AJ22_ChinaRider   AJ22_ChinaRider is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2022
Posts: 105
Quote:
Originally Posted by TominMO View Post
So three strategies. I'm a total offroad noob myself so I can't talk about specific bikes, just goals.

$
Buy something cheap to learn on and that you can beat up without too much remorse. Then move up to $$ or $$$.

$$
Spend a bit more to get something you can upgrade or is good enough as is for both a complete beginner and someone moderately experienced. Perhaps the most practical option for most people.

$$$
Buy once, cry once. Get the bike you want to end up with. Cheapest option in the long run, because you only bought one bike.
Love this!!!


 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2023, 09:49 AM   #4
franque   franque is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Marseille, France -> Conakry, Guinea
Posts: 1,481
Only thing I would trust would be a GPX for that kind of work, but the suspension would need to be completely reworked. Some might say Orion, but the owner strikes me as a bit too defensive, and perhaps he's overcompensating for the quality of his product/after-sales support, which is typical Chonda, which is to say, not good. GPX has great customer support and great quality, you just pay more than the other Chinese brands.


 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2023, 08:40 PM   #5
AJ22_ChinaRider   AJ22_ChinaRider is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2022
Posts: 105
Quote:
Originally Posted by franque View Post
Only thing I would trust would be a GPX for that kind of work, but the suspension would need to be completely reworked. Some might say Orion, but the owner strikes me as a bit too defensive, and perhaps he's overcompensating for the quality of his product/after-sales support, which is typical Chonda, which is to say, not good. GPX has great customer support and great quality, you just pay more than the other Chinese brands.
Got it, thank you!
I'll have to borrow my friend's GPX and test drive it and get a feel for it
I notice that the GPXs aren't exactly in the lower price spectrum, so I believe I have to commit to it and look at it as a longer term bike.


 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2023, 01:12 PM   #6
Boatguy   Boatguy is offline
 
Boatguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: Northeast
Posts: 934
None. These bikes are more like tractors. They are not going to perform at all for your intended use. They weigh too much. The suspension isn’t good enough. The power isn’t there half the time.

This is not a good use for any of the current bikes.

I think it would be really nice if they made one, but they just haven’t done that yet.

I would stick to the same types of bikes you see other people using in motocross.

Like these:

https://www.dirtrider.com/story/test...tocross-bikes/

I realize they are extremely expensive. So used might be the way to go.
__________________
2020 Lifan x-pect


 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2023, 08:52 PM   #7
AJ22_ChinaRider   AJ22_ChinaRider is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2022
Posts: 105
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boatguy View Post
None. These bikes are more like tractors. They are not going to perform at all for your intended use. They weigh too much. The suspension isn’t good enough. The power isn’t there half the time.
I believe you're 100% on the spot here!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boatguy View Post
This is not a good use for any of the current bikes.

I think it would be really nice if they made one, but they just haven’t done that yet.

I would stick to the same types of bikes you see other people using in motocross.

Like these:

https://www.dirtrider.com/story/test...tocross-bikes/

I realize they are extremely expensive. So used might be the way to go
Will take a look at these... until then I'll have to get my skills up and try more off-roading


 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2023, 02:14 PM   #8
TominMO   TominMO is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: De Soto, MO
Posts: 1,976
There are some models of various brands in the 125cc and 140cc class which have upgraded and adjustable suspension and larger wheels, i.e. 17" front and 14" rear.

For example:
https://www.lincolnpowersports.com/N...02117?ref=list
__________________
2021 Lifan Xpect--sold
2022 Lifan KPX
1972 Honda CT90--The Carrot
1969 Honda CT90--The Tomahto
Cheesy is the WDK (workplace drama king). Now retired. Nope, back in the saddle. Nope, finally retired.
Climate: The Movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A24fWmNA6lM
How our government really works https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjadCd0VRBw
Question all authority.....think for yourself


 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2023, 08:54 PM   #9
AJ22_ChinaRider   AJ22_ChinaRider is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2022
Posts: 105
Quote:
Originally Posted by TominMO View Post
There are some models of various brands in the 125cc and 140cc class which have upgraded and adjustable suspension and larger wheels, i.e. 17" front and 14" rear.

For example:
https://www.lincolnpowersports.com/N...02117?ref=list
SSR's very popular...probably good dealer support as well


 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2023, 12:09 AM   #10
Fast_Freddy   Fast_Freddy is offline
 
Fast_Freddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2022
Location: Pennsyltuckey
Posts: 311
__________________
22 Templar 250


 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2023, 09:49 PM   #11
AJ22_ChinaRider   AJ22_ChinaRider is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2022
Posts: 105
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast_Freddy View Post
Ooh! ty for the find


 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2023, 09:50 PM   #12
AJ22_ChinaRider   AJ22_ChinaRider is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2022
Posts: 105
Did the Kayo later become GPX?


 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2023, 10:50 PM   #13
Fast_Freddy   Fast_Freddy is offline
 
Fast_Freddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2022
Location: Pennsyltuckey
Posts: 311
Quote:
Originally Posted by AJ22_ChinaRider View Post
Did the Kayo later become GPX?
No idea but both brands bikes look very competent.
__________________
22 Templar 250


 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2023, 05:51 PM   #14
rj133   rj133 is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Posts: 22
Quote:
Originally Posted by AJ22_ChinaRider View Post
Did the Kayo later become GPX?
Kayo and GPX are separate companies .


 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2023, 07:10 PM   #15
Falkon45   Falkon45 is offline
 
Falkon45's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Savannah, Ga
Posts: 760
Kayo is top of the like china bike. About as close as you can get to KTM without buying a KTM/ Gas Gas/ Husqvarna. Possibly the best suspension out of the china bikes listed.

GPX... just the Kayo bikes at a cheaper margin... but a seemingly higher price. Odd.

SSR... Probably the lowest spec'd of the bunch, but also the most popular.

All of them are pretty beginner friendly.


 
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:55 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.