New Jersey Registration Issues: Possible Grey Market Bike. - Page 2

jflo453 · 05-24-2008, 01:41 AM

Ok, so I have continued my odyssey, I have begun to do some research on where exactly this bike came from. The dealer listed on the MCO does not exist anywhere anymore as I can tell. I tracked down a dealer in Utah (same state as on my MCO) that has since stopped selling bikes. The dealer lists the bikes as Qujos, and they are the exact same bikes as the one that I have. The one they have listed is a Qujos Trailmaster 200.

http://qjlehi.tripod.com/id10.html

the bike pictured in this link is exactly the same as the one I purchased. One other forum that discusses china bikes had some information on qujos, but from what I could tell, they ceased manufacturing/importing these bikes, and the dealer in Utah is no longer available anywhere. Was Qujos rebranded or something or does anyone know anything about them? Please help

ejcycles · 05-24-2008, 09:51 AM

Hi jflo453

I don't know anything about them, But... On my educated guess as many of the Asian companies dropped off of the face of USA soil in 2006 it had to do with Emissions. The EPA put stricter emissions in place starting in 2006 {basically Kalifornia emissions} and said all {Big 6 included} companies had to meet 50% of the top in 2006. They where supposed to meet 100% in 2007 but I think they put it off a year {till 2008} and that may be why we have seen such a slow import of 2008 vehicles at the beginning of this year.

katoranger · 05-24-2008, 11:53 AM

AZ200 has the trailmaster.

Allen

AZ200cc · 05-24-2008, 12:10 PM

They went under Maxfine mostly...Still made to this day.

jflo453 · 05-24-2008, 02:08 PM

so what should i do then

AZ200cc · 05-24-2008, 02:22 PM

Have You actually taken the bike to the DMV so they can inspect it?
Some states You can have an officer inspect it and get it through that way I thought. :?

jflo453 · 05-24-2008, 05:39 PM

New Jersey does not allow that. Either it is on their list, or it does not get registered. The only other way is to have it inspected as a salvage bike, in which case the inspection costs 200 dollars, and they wont approve it anyway because even though it is inspected, the original bike that it is built off is still not on their list

AZ200cc · 05-24-2008, 06:05 PM

I read online that You have en emissions standard...If that is true You might be wasting Your time even with the certificate of origin.

http://www.dmv.org/nj-new-jersey/mot...our_Motorcycle

AZ200cc · 05-24-2008, 06:14 PM

I also found this

To title or register your motorcycle, visit an MVC Agency with proof of insurance, title and registration fee payment and one of the following:
Manufacturer's Certificate of Origin (MSO or MCO)
New Jersey or out-of-state title
Registration and a notarized bill-of-sale from the previous owner with vehicle description and sale price (motorcycles from non-titled states only)
If the manufacturer does not appear on the approved list, you must also provide:
A color photo of the NHTSA label
A color photo of the EPA Noise Emissions label**
A color photo of the EPA Exhaust Emissions label**
A color photo of the side of the motorcycle
Proof of insurance and pay the title and registration fee
If your motorcycle manufacturer is not included on the approved list [10k pdf], the dealer must contact MVC to apply for approval to license and register motorcycles in New Jersey .

If your motorcycle doesn't meet the minimum federal safety standards, you must contact the dealer or manufacturer.

NOTE: Dirt bikes can only be used on private property and cannot be titled or registered. Insurance is optional.

If you don't have an MCO or if the motorcycle has never been titled, you must complete the Application for Motorcycle or Moped Title

link below

http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/Vehicle/Motorcycles.htm

jflo453 · 06-17-2008, 04:12 PM

Wow, what a conclusion to my odyssey. So it had become extremely clear that the fine state of New Jersey had no intention of registering my bike. Fortunately, I work in the Hamptons in New York in the summer. So after a few hours of fudging documents, I took my fateful trip to the New York State DMV. I surrendered my New Jersey license and traded it in for a New York one, and then registered my bike as a resident of new york state. Took me 10 minutes, in and out the door with plates in hand, and my new title is in the mail. Should have just gone through new york state to begin with

05-24-2008, 09:51 AM	#17
ejcycles Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: 11481 State Route 44 Mantua, Ohio 44255 Posts: 1,112	Hi jflo453 I don't know anything about them, But... On my educated guess as many of the Asian companies dropped off of the face of USA soil in 2006 it had to do with Emissions. The EPA put stricter emissions in place starting in 2006 {basically Kalifornia emissions} and said all {Big 6 included} companies had to meet 50% of the top in 2006. They where supposed to meet 100% in 2007 but I think they put it off a year {till 2008} and that may be why we have seen such a slow import of 2008 vehicles at the beginning of this year. __________________ Thanks, Bruce @ Endless Journey Cycles "Phone Calls Only" ~330-274-0098~ Hours: Tue.-Fri. 10:00-6:00 Sat. 10:00-4:00 EST. Dealer for: Lifan, Crossrunner ATVs. http://www.endlessjourneycycles.net
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05-24-2008, 11:53 AM	#18
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	AZ200 has the trailmaster. Allen __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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05-24-2008, 12:10 PM	#19
AZ200cc Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Show Low Arizona Posts: 2,889	They went under Maxfine mostly...Still made to this day. __________________ <br />2001 Suzuki DR200SE<br />1997 Suzuki RM250 YIKES<br />1995 Yamaha Breeze 125 daughters<br />1991 Honda XR80r Restored<br />maybe a 2003 Yamaha TTR90
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05-24-2008, 02:22 PM	#21
AZ200cc Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Show Low Arizona Posts: 2,889	Have You actually taken the bike to the DMV so they can inspect it? Some states You can have an officer inspect it and get it through that way I thought. :? __________________ <br />2001 Suzuki DR200SE<br />1997 Suzuki RM250 YIKES<br />1995 Yamaha Breeze 125 daughters<br />1991 Honda XR80r Restored<br />maybe a 2003 Yamaha TTR90
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05-24-2008, 06:05 PM	#23
AZ200cc Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Show Low Arizona Posts: 2,889	I read online that You have en emissions standard...If that is true You might be wasting Your time even with the certificate of origin. http://www.dmv.org/nj-new-jersey/mot...our_Motorcycle __________________ <br />2001 Suzuki DR200SE<br />1997 Suzuki RM250 YIKES<br />1995 Yamaha Breeze 125 daughters<br />1991 Honda XR80r Restored<br />maybe a 2003 Yamaha TTR90
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05-24-2008, 01:41 AM	#16
jflo453 Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 11	Ok, so I have continued my odyssey, I have begun to do some research on where exactly this bike came from. The dealer listed on the MCO does not exist anywhere anymore as I can tell. I tracked down a dealer in Utah (same state as on my MCO) that has since stopped selling bikes. The dealer lists the bikes as Qujos, and they are the exact same bikes as the one that I have. The one they have listed is a Qujos Trailmaster 200. http://qjlehi.tripod.com/id10.html the bike pictured in this link is exactly the same as the one I purchased. One other forum that discusses china bikes had some information on qujos, but from what I could tell, they ceased manufacturing/importing these bikes, and the dealer in Utah is no longer available anywhere. Was Qujos rebranded or something or does anyone know anything about them? Please help
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05-24-2008, 02:08 PM	#20
jflo453 Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 11	so what should i do then
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05-24-2008, 05:39 PM	#22
jflo453 Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 11	New Jersey does not allow that. Either it is on their list, or it does not get registered. The only other way is to have it inspected as a salvage bike, in which case the inspection costs 200 dollars, and they wont approve it anyway because even though it is inspected, the original bike that it is built off is still not on their list
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05-24-2008, 06:14 PM	#24
AZ200cc Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Show Low Arizona Posts: 2,889	I also found this To title or register your motorcycle, visit an MVC Agency with proof of insurance, title and registration fee payment and one of the following: Manufacturer's Certificate of Origin (MSO or MCO) New Jersey or out-of-state title Registration and a notarized bill-of-sale from the previous owner with vehicle description and sale price (motorcycles from non-titled states only) If the manufacturer does not appear on the approved list, you must also provide: A color photo of the NHTSA label A color photo of the EPA Noise Emissions label A color photo of the EPA Exhaust Emissions label A color photo of the side of the motorcycle Proof of insurance and pay the title and registration fee If your motorcycle manufacturer is not included on the approved list [10k pdf], the dealer must contact MVC to apply for approval to license and register motorcycles in New Jersey . If your motorcycle doesn't meet the minimum federal safety standards, you must contact the dealer or manufacturer. NOTE: Dirt bikes can only be used on private property and cannot be titled or registered. Insurance is optional. If you don't have an MCO or if the motorcycle has never been titled, you must complete the Application for Motorcycle or Moped Title link below http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/Vehicle/Motorcycles.htm __________________ <br />2001 Suzuki DR200SE<br />1997 Suzuki RM250 YIKES<br />1995 Yamaha Breeze 125 daughters<br />1991 Honda XR80r Restored<br />maybe a 2003 Yamaha TTR90
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06-17-2008, 04:12 PM	#25
jflo453 Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 11	Wow, what a conclusion to my odyssey. So it had become extremely clear that the fine state of New Jersey had no intention of registering my bike. Fortunately, I work in the Hamptons in New York in the summer. So after a few hours of fudging documents, I took my fateful trip to the New York State DMV. I surrendered my New Jersey license and traded it in for a New York one, and then registered my bike as a resident of new york state. Took me 10 minutes, in and out the door with plates in hand, and my new title is in the mail. Should have just gone through new york state to begin with
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