Go Back   ChinaRiders Forums > Technical/Performance > Pit/Pocket Bikes & Scooters
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 06-13-2023, 06:34 PM   #1
aaronin93313   aaronin93313 is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2023
Posts: 8
Am I too big for a grom clone?

5”11” 270 lbs. looking to commute to work and back. Well this Thing be able to take me up to 55 mph or am I too heavy? I’d obviously change the front sprocket and get a better carb. Any bigger guys ride one of these?

Thanks!


 
Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2023, 08:31 PM   #2
XLsior   XLsior is offline
 
XLsior's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,444


 
Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2023, 10:14 AM   #3
TominMO   TominMO is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: De Soto, MO
Posts: 1,976
I'd most recommend the Lifan KP Mini SS3. The most power (13 hp) at 150cc, with a 5-speed. They claim a top speed of 65 mph. Stick a smaller windscreen on it for better aerodynamics, and find out what sprocket combination works best for your needs. Lifan has a dealership network and you can also order it from Venom.

The windscreen that I had in mind is 15" high X 17" wide. Pretty inexpensive too. Various Chinese brands, in clear or smoke.
https://www.amazon.com/Krator-Windsc...cx_mr_hp_atf_m
__________________
2021 Lifan Xpect--sold
2022 Lifan KPX
1972 Honda CT90--The Carrot
1969 Honda CT90--The Tomahto
Cheesy is the WDK (workplace drama king). Now retired. Nope, back in the saddle. Nope, finally retired.
Climate: The Movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A24fWmNA6lM
How our government really works https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjadCd0VRBw
Question all authority.....think for yourself


 
Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2023, 10:37 AM   #4
herbie   herbie is offline
 
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Illinois
Posts: 867
I agree with Tom on the Venom SS3! I would think if you made the upgrade to the Nibbi carburetor and a different exhaust or at least a different muffler you should be able to maintain 50-55mph. You may have to upgrade to a 16 or 17 Tooth front sprocket. I have a nibbi and a aftermarket muffler as well as a 17 tooth front sprocket and weigh 185lbs at 6’ 1” and the SS3 will maintain 55-60mph for me pretty good. I’m not certain how 85 more lbs would affect it. It is a really good bike though, I enjoy riding mine.
__________________
2022 Venom KPR 200 Red- the fastest color
16t and 46t sprockets, NGK Iridium CPR8EAIX-9, aftermarket full exhaust system. Top speed 81GPS
2023 Venom SS3 KP mini 150– Nibbi carb, Nibbi air filter, aftermarket muffler, decat
2022 Venom Ghost chopper 250
1997 Honda GL1500 Goldwing
1978 Kawasaki KL250
https://youtube.com/@herbiesgarage681


 
Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2023, 09:18 PM   #5
aaronin93313   aaronin93313 is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2023
Posts: 8
Venom SS3

Quote:
Originally Posted by herbie View Post
I agree with Tom on the Venom SS3!
I'd love to get one but unfortunately they are not California legal. Our choices here are limited.


 
Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2023, 07:36 AM   #6
JerryHawk250   JerryHawk250 is offline
Moderator
 
JerryHawk250's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Houma, La.
Posts: 11,713
Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronin93313 View Post
I'd love to get one but unfortunately they are not California legal. Our choices here are limited.
The 2024 models are 50 state legal. They will also be EFI.
__________________
2024 Linhai 300 ATV 4x4
2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper
2023 Venom Evader
2022 Lifan KPX250
2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S (Sold)
2004 Honda ST 1300
2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold)
Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster
2016 Cazador180 XL
2014 Coolster150
JerryHawk250.com
My YouTube Channel


 
Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2023, 09:10 AM   #7
herbie   herbie is offline
 
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Illinois
Posts: 867
Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronin93313 View Post
I'd love to get one but unfortunately they are not California legal. Our choices here are limited.
Or you can get a Venom KPR 200, those are CARB approved and are a fantastic bike if you like that style of bike.
__________________
2022 Venom KPR 200 Red- the fastest color
16t and 46t sprockets, NGK Iridium CPR8EAIX-9, aftermarket full exhaust system. Top speed 81GPS
2023 Venom SS3 KP mini 150– Nibbi carb, Nibbi air filter, aftermarket muffler, decat
2022 Venom Ghost chopper 250
1997 Honda GL1500 Goldwing
1978 Kawasaki KL250
https://youtube.com/@herbiesgarage681


 
Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2023, 11:27 PM   #8
aaronin93313   aaronin93313 is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2023
Posts: 8
2024 Model

Quote:
Originally Posted by JerryHawk250 View Post
The 2024 models are 50 state legal. They will also be EFI.
Are they available for purchase anywhere yet?


 
Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2023, 09:51 AM   #9
Deckard_Cain   Deckard_Cain is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Bay City, MI
Posts: 400
Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronin93313 View Post
5”11” 270 lbs. looking to commute to work and back. Well this Thing be able to take me up to 55 mph or am I too heavy? I’d obviously change the front sprocket and get a better carb. Any bigger guys ride one of these?

Thanks!
An actual Grom would struggle to get a 200lb rider much past 55mph, even with the new ones having an extra gear.

An RPS Condor 150 would be a better bet I think, if you can't go with the SS3.


 
Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2023, 01:33 PM   #10
culcune   culcune is offline
 
culcune's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Yuma, Arizona
Posts: 9,056
Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronin93313 View Post
Are they available for purchase anywhere yet?
I would contact Pete at Kronik Racing in Simi Valley. He sells boatloads of the Boom/Baodiao Vaders (both locally and delivery all over SoCal as well as mail-order to further areas) and knows and sells the performance upgrades for them. Vaders are California legal. that being said, and as everyone has mentioned the Lifan SS3, they will become California legal and Pete also sells those (right now to out-of-state customers via mail-order) so should have some insight into when the CARB-legal ones will be available.

There are a couple other Chinese brands with 'premium' minis that are CARB legal such as from both Benelli and QJMotor which are related and are both distributed via SSR Motorsports in the US (and they are out of of So Cal if you are in the L.A. area). http://www.ssrmotorsports.com/

I think there are other brands of premium Chinese brand minis as well that are CARB certified, but my mind is drawing a blank right now, but hopefully someone can toss in some names for you.

I, personally, feel the Lifan would be the most worth it due to its superior power rating and from several members and numerous videos on YouTube--VERY high quality), but sometimes it takes months and months after obtaining certification before the bikes show up on our shores and in shops. However, they may be available as we speak, so I suggest to contact Pete.

Deckard_Cain suggested to look into the RPS Condor 150 (RPS being the same company that is owned by Hensim, who manufactures the Hawk 250), but I am fairly certain those are not CARB legal (but look around--they may be?).
__________________
"They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..."

TGB Delivery Scooter 150
TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard


 
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:34 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.