"Lifanoid"? - Page 2

**cheesy** · 08-06-2010, 11:30 PM

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That answered my question.

Soooo then, a very long ride on a Hondoid can result in hemorrhoids.

Hopefully not!

As Snagglepuss might say, "Hemorrhoids? Heavens to murgatroyd!" 8O

http://www.eclecticdaydreams.com/dre...age-27592.html

Spud

Now yer datin' yerself. :wink:

SpudRider · 08-06-2010, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by cheesy

Now yer datin' yerself. :wink:

Amen.

Spud

FastDoc · 08-07-2010, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SpudRider

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Okay, when you guys use the term "lifanoid", are you referring to a specific Lifan or the myriad of Lifan clones? Inquiring minds want to know. Well, at least I do.

There is no official definition; I think everyone has his own definition for the term "Lifanoid."

I define "Lifanoid" as a Chinese motorcycle with a Honda cloned engine, which is not distributed by American Lifan, but is very similar to the bikes distributed by them. I include the so-called "Gray Market Lifans" in this definition. Therefore, I group all Chinese motorcycles into four categories:

1. Zongshen
2. Qingqi (Qlink/Konker, et cetera)
3. Official American Lifan
4. Lifanoid (Unofficial American Lifan, but virtually the same motorcycles)

Therefore, to answer your question directly, when I use the term "Lifanoid," I am referring to the "myriad of Lifan clones."

Spud

I think I invented the term a year or so ago.

Like Spud I make the same distinction, except I don't have a seperate catergory for American Lifan.

Lifanoids are clones of clones of Hondas. Q's are Suzukis (closer than a clone, actually, as the same manufacturer makes both the S and the Q), Zongs are close copies/clones of Yamahas.

FastDoc · 08-07-2010, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by alkamp

?? OK so where does my Shineray 200 TMS fall? (besides on its side

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Lifanoid. In general non-Q non-Zong is usually Lifanoid.

FastDoc · 08-07-2010, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Cal25

OK, just to muddy the water, My Hibird is a GY2 with a Zongshen motor. Maybe it could be called a Zondanoid? Zongafloid? The Zongshen on my bike is very close in appearance to a Honda 185 engine of old.
I dont REALLY care what people call it. I call it "FUN"

Yup.

Zong builds some Lifanoid motors. Like the one which was in my HSUN.

It's like a cow giving birth to a sheep, I know but strange things happen in China!

Wild_Alaskan · 08-07-2010, 10:12 PM

ok... if my bike was a hondoid to begin with what would it be now?

FastDoc · 08-07-2010, 10:38 PM

A Wild Alaskan!

Welcome home. How have you been doing?

Wild_Alaskan · 08-07-2010, 11:25 PM

good! I'm actually still on the trails but will be home in a couple weeks for a day before I go to college

FastDoc · 08-07-2010, 11:36 PM

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good! I'm actually still on the trails but will be home in a couple weeks for a day before I go to college

You know we want pics of your working adventure, don't you WA? :P

Oengus · 08-08-2010, 08:49 AM

This may help or further confuse the issueâ€¦but Zongshen, Lifan and Loncin are major manufactures that produce more engines then they produce assembled motorcycles. Then there is the Qingqi and Grand River Group that produces the Suzuki engines. They all produce Japanese technology based engines and the first three primarily produces Honda typesâ€¦but also Yamaha types. Then the later to also produce Honda types but not Yamaha types.

The most common type used in GY or Dual Sports is the Honda type the 163FML a single 196-197cc single with either a OHV or OHC configuration.

Then there are manufactures that may produce their own engines, but since most of the bigger manufactures listed above produce more engines then fully assembled bikes, the others are often utilizing one of their engines. If not buying them then they reverse engineered off them, a copy of a Lifan's copy of a Honda, could be called a Lifanoid.

Not all Qingqi are or have a Suzuki engineâ€¦a 250cc cruiser they sell has a Honda twin.
The Zongshen Storm has a Yamaha V250 but the GS250 street bike uses a Honda single that is actually less then 249cc. The Lifan V-250 uses a Yamaha 250.â€¦.

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08-08-2010, 08:49 AM	#25
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	This may help or further confuse the issueâ€¦but Zongshen, Lifan and Loncin are major manufactures that produce more engines then they produce assembled motorcycles. Then there is the Qingqi and Grand River Group that produces the Suzuki engines. They all produce Japanese technology based engines and the first three primarily produces Honda typesâ€¦but also Yamaha types. Then the later to also produce Honda types but not Yamaha types. The most common type used in GY or Dual Sports is the Honda type the 163FML a single 196-197cc single with either a OHV or OHC configuration. Then there are manufactures that may produce their own engines, but since most of the bigger manufactures listed above produce more engines then fully assembled bikes, the others are often utilizing one of their engines. If not buying them then they reverse engineered off them, a copy of a Lifan's copy of a Honda, could be called a Lifanoid. Not all Qingqi are or have a Suzuki engineâ€¦a 250cc cruiser they sell has a Honda twin. The Zongshen Storm has a Yamaha V250 but the GS250 street bike uses a Honda single that is actually less then 249cc. The Lifan V-250 uses a Yamaha 250.â€¦.
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