Haosen (Hawks etc.): Ask me anything - Page 11

Weldangrind · 07-19-2016, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Ariel Red Hunter

Ahh, the chimera of the counterbalanced engine! This non-counterbalance engine drives the oil pump with a gear drive. The counterbalanced engine drives the oil pump with a chain. Unlike older engines with chain drive accesories, the chain is buried inside the cases. Not easy to check or change.

Agreed! I'll keep my beloved CG as is with no added complexity, thankyouverymuch.

2LZ · 07-19-2016, 12:01 PM

In my experience so far...

All of my non-balanced CG's are like a blender until they're broke in, then smooth out pretty well.....or I adjust to it. The non-balanced motor also seems a very quiet running motor, mechanically.

The counterbalanced motor was really nice out of crate, noticeably smoother than the non-balanced....and has gotten a little smoother now that it's broke in, especially at speed....but it is more mechanically noisy.

I'm not too worried about the chain drive oil pump since some older Lifan's have gotten a boatload of miles (50k) out of them prior to needing a chain.

Trade offs.... Six-a dozen....half another uh one....

Ariel Red Hunter · 07-19-2016, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Weldangrind

Agreed! I'll keep my beloved CG as is with no added complexity, thankyouverymuch.

What do you know! Someone agrees with me. I've been going through a batting slump the last few days.

muddymopar · 07-19-2016, 06:54 PM

Is there any update for the Taurus 2X2?

Republic · 07-19-2016, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam Rinkleff

If you want a physical dealer in Oklahoma, I recommend High Plains in Enid.

Have you had any contact with "V Bike USA" out of Edmond? They are a bit closer to me and seem to have a good Ebay rating.

scott9386 · 07-25-2016, 11:00 AM

just curious but can a tubeless tire be mounted to the rims on the hawk or am I limited to tube type tires on my replacement. got about 5000 mi out of stock tire trying to find a more street worthy tire.

keep finding a lot of tires with good reviews but unfortunately are tubeless

chuck · 07-25-2016, 01:30 PM

I installed a front tubless Shinko 705 with the inner tube that the Hawk came with.I put around 500 miles on it with no issues.

Ariel Red Hunter · 07-25-2016, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by scott9386

just curious but can a tubeless tire be mounted to the rims on the hawk or am I limited to tube type tires on my replacement. got about 5000 mi out of stock tire trying to find a more street worthy tire.

keep finding a lot of tires with good reviews but unfortunately are tubeless

Yes, you can mount and use tubless tires on the Hawk, so long as you use a tube with it. The air leaks out of the spoke holes which is why you need inner tubes.

LunaTech · 07-28-2016, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by pcspecialist

I used only 1 quart for the first couple hundred miles, but, when I changed the oil, I did so after being told somewhere to use 1.25 quarts. Initially, I even though 1.25 was a tad too much, but, with the engine perfectly level, it appears to be the maximum amount.

I want to use as much as I possibly can, but, not so much that my crank is splashing in it. If 1.6 quarts isn't a misprint, that's what I will use.

Adam this is from another thread started by pcspecialist. I also know that Motocheez only uses one quart and after changing the oil in my Hawk it does seem, on the dipstick anyway, that one quart is right where it should be. Can you shed any light on how much oil we are actually supposed to be using?

Adam Rinkleff · 07-29-2016, 11:16 AM

Approximately a quart, more or less. There is a window gauge to see how much is in there, you should try to keep the level approximately halfway between the bottom and top of the gauge.

bartons8 · 07-29-2016, 12:19 PM

According to the http://therps.net/ website, the specifications show 0.26 gallons of oil which is 1.04 quarts. Not sure why the manual says 1.60?

Weldangrind · 07-31-2016, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bartons8

According to the http://therps.net/ website, the specifications show 0.26 gallons of oil which is 1.04 quarts. Not sure why the manual says 1.60?

If you have a sight glass, trust it. The only purpose for my China dipsticks is to plug the hole after I've added oil. The dipsticks have been quite dishonest with me.

BlackBike · 07-31-2016, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Weldangrind

If you have a sight glass, trust it. The only purpose for my China dipsticks is to plug the hole after I've added oil. The dipsticks have been quite dishonest with me.

Dipsticks can cause troubles and seem to have a mind of there own.

2LZ · 07-31-2016, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBike

Dipsticks can cause troubles and seem to have a mind of there own.

I always wondered why my older brother always called me "Dipstick"......

4950cycle · 02-11-2017, 12:50 PM

Is the engine in the Hawk 250 roughly the same 250 Chinese engine Cleveland Cycleworks uses in the their Heist model ? I need to know for performance parts purposes .

07-19-2016, 12:01 PM	#152
2LZ Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Volcano, Ca Posts: 7,092	In my experience so far... All of my non-balanced CG's are like a blender until they're broke in, then smooth out pretty well.....or I adjust to it. The non-balanced motor also seems a very quiet running motor, mechanically. The counterbalanced motor was really nice out of crate, noticeably smoother than the non-balanced....and has gotten a little smoother now that it's broke in, especially at speed....but it is more mechanically noisy. I'm not too worried about the chain drive oil pump since some older Lifan's have gotten a boatload of miles (50k) out of them prior to needing a chain. Trade offs.... Six-a dozen....half another uh one.... __________________ "Light a fire for a man, and you heat him for a day. Light a man on fire, and you heat him for the rest of his life." 2007 Suzuki DRZ400S (SM convert) 2009 Q Link XP 200 1967 BSA B25 250cc Starfire 2022 Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 2023 Royal Enfield Scram 411 1948 Royal Enfield Model G 350
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02-11-2017, 12:50 PM	#165
4950cycle Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 4	Same engine as Cleveland Cycleworks Heist ? Is the engine in the Hawk 250 roughly the same 250 Chinese engine Cleveland Cycleworks uses in the their Heist model ? I need to know for performance parts purposes .
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07-19-2016, 06:54 PM	#154
muddymopar Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Kansas Posts: 11	Is there any update for the Taurus 2X2?
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07-25-2016, 11:00 AM	#156
scott9386 Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 3	just curious but can a tubeless tire be mounted to the rims on the hawk or am I limited to tube type tires on my replacement. got about 5000 mi out of stock tire trying to find a more street worthy tire. keep finding a lot of tires with good reviews but unfortunately are tubeless
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07-25-2016, 01:30 PM	#157
chuck Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 436	I installed a front tubless Shinko 705 with the inner tube that the Hawk came with.I put around 500 miles on it with no issues.
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07-29-2016, 11:16 AM	#160
Adam Rinkleff Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 147	Approximately a quart, more or less. There is a window gauge to see how much is in there, you should try to keep the level approximately halfway between the bottom and top of the gauge.
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07-29-2016, 12:19 PM	#161
bartons8 Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: NH Posts: 4	According to the http://therps.net/ website, the specifications show 0.26 gallons of oil which is 1.04 quarts. Not sure why the manual says 1.60?
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