SS Camaro - Track trips, build pics etc. - Page 11

**JerryHawk250** · 10-09-2017, 05:33 PM

Yes boost is addictive too lol. Sorry to hear that it crapped out on you. I did a cam and valve spring swap and like you made a few quick runs. The next day I was going to do a few more test runs after tuning. I was just pulling out the on to the street taking it nice and easy. All of a sudden I start hearing a knock. it started getting louder and louder. So I made a block and limped back to the house. I did a compression test and no compression on one cylinder. I pulled the head and there before me was this nice big hole in the piston. I'm like WTF? Turned out that I had defective valve springs that were recalled. and had dropped a valve right through the piston. I had to fight it but Comp paid for replacement parts due to they sold them to me knowing they were recalled. You want to feel some real boost. My boost controller malfunctioned one night at the track and accidently pushed 16# of boost through it. Woohooo! one hell of a rush till the intake tube blew off about half track. lol

Weldangrind · 10-10-2017, 12:40 PM

That's crappy news, but you've got a good attitude about it. What displacement are you on the hunt for?

01SSRedA4 · 10-10-2017, 12:47 PM

05 Aluminum 5.3 with 101k miles is on the way!!!! After spending half the day looking at local and semi-local engines yesterday and being extremely disappointed in their condition/appearance, i went with an online source.

Weldangrind · 10-10-2017, 12:59 PM

That sounds like an excellent base to build on. Do you intend to examine the bottom end before building the motor?

01SSRedA4 · 10-10-2017, 01:19 PM

Standard procedure as last time, complete teardown except the crank rods and pistons, clean as much as i can, put all my new parts and gasket in it, reassemble.

Weldangrind · 10-11-2017, 11:22 AM

This is for my own education: would you also change the rod and main bearings?

01SSRedA4 · 10-11-2017, 11:37 AM

No, rotating assembly is run as is. Everything else is replaced, lifters timing chain oil pump valve springs all gaskets etc. Main engine bearings rods and pistons are left stock.

01SSRedA4 · 10-16-2017, 08:52 AM

Motor pullin party. Got damn it.

TDC for #3. For those who may not know, the piston is supposed to come above the deck. This is the highest I could get this one, followed by a clunk.

Just like I thought.....

And this is why you dont pull in engines in flip flops!! Not that this will stop me from doing it again.

Lots of new parts showing up daily, engine should be here tomorrow. Broken motor is completely torn down/stripped. All the other new parts in this engine looked great, nothing else seems damaged other then that bearing. So, on to reassembly and upgrades.

**JerryHawk250** · 10-16-2017, 09:07 AM

I'd say you got lucky. How does the crank look? Next time wear sandals, They have the protective strap in the back. lol

01SSRedA4 · 10-16-2017, 09:16 AM

It was my own dumbass fault. Getting the crank bolt loose I did two things wrong, 1. was use a non-impact (read cheap) 1/2 drive extension, and 2. decided since the motor was wanting to move when pulling on the breaker bar I'd stand on the k member. Extension broke I hit the concrete with my heel hitting head studs on the way down.

Considering the event, the crank and rod actually look good. I think bc i shut it down right after and didnt drive it till it had catastrophic failure it limited the damage.

**JerryHawk250** · 10-16-2017, 09:43 AM

LOL, I've done some of those dumbass things. Most of mine ended up in busted knuckles. Glad to here the crank made it through alright. I wonder what caused the failure? Maybe some of the sludge if coughed up? At least you have easy access for pulling the engine. Try pulling and installing an engine in a truck by yourself with only an engine lift. As big as the engine bay is on a truck its still a tight squeeze it in there. Like threading a needle.

01SSRedA4 · 10-16-2017, 09:53 AM

I have a chain hoist hooked to a ceiling beam. Seems to work well, I hook chains to the frame horns just inside of the headlights with the hood removed. Lift the front end straight up.

Weldangrind · 10-16-2017, 12:46 PM

I've been known to wear safety flip flops in the shop as well. I've learned that it's difficult to push a car in flip flops.

katoranger · 10-16-2017, 07:22 PM

Welding and flip flops is not such a good idea either.

01SSRedA4 · 10-16-2017, 07:32 PM

Do it all the time, and i have scars on my feet to prove it!!!

10-09-2017, 05:33 PM	#151
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,568	Yes boost is addictive too lol. Sorry to hear that it crapped out on you. I did a cam and valve spring swap and like you made a few quick runs. The next day I was going to do a few more test runs after tuning. I was just pulling out the on to the street taking it nice and easy. All of a sudden I start hearing a knock. it started getting louder and louder. So I made a block and limped back to the house. I did a compression test and no compression on one cylinder. I pulled the head and there before me was this nice big hole in the piston. I'm like WTF? Turned out that I had defective valve springs that were recalled. and had dropped a valve right through the piston. I had to fight it but Comp paid for replacement parts due to they sold them to me knowing they were recalled. You want to feel some real boost. My boost controller malfunctioned one night at the track and accidently pushed 16# of boost through it. Woohooo! one hell of a rush till the intake tube blew off about half track. lol __________________ 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel
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10-10-2017, 12:40 PM	#152
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	That's crappy news, but you've got a good attitude about it. What displacement are you on the hunt for? __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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10-10-2017, 12:47 PM	#153
01SSRedA4 Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 220	05 Aluminum 5.3 with 101k miles is on the way!!!! After spending half the day looking at local and semi-local engines yesterday and being extremely disappointed in their condition/appearance, i went with an online source. __________________ 06 Foreman 500 - 29.5 OG Outlaws, 35%, Warn 2.5k, HL^2", <2.5">, EPI, HMF 95 Fourtrax 300 - 27" Zillas, SS212s , Viper 3k, HL^2" 04 XR80 - Stock 07 CRF50 - Stock
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10-10-2017, 12:59 PM	#154
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	That sounds like an excellent base to build on. Do you intend to examine the bottom end before building the motor? __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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10-10-2017, 01:19 PM	#155
01SSRedA4 Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 220	Standard procedure as last time, complete teardown except the crank rods and pistons, clean as much as i can, put all my new parts and gasket in it, reassemble. __________________ 06 Foreman 500 - 29.5 OG Outlaws, 35%, Warn 2.5k, HL^2", <2.5">, EPI, HMF 95 Fourtrax 300 - 27" Zillas, SS212s , Viper 3k, HL^2" 04 XR80 - Stock 07 CRF50 - Stock
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10-11-2017, 11:22 AM	#156
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	This is for my own education: would you also change the rod and main bearings? __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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10-11-2017, 11:37 AM	#157
01SSRedA4 Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 220	No, rotating assembly is run as is. Everything else is replaced, lifters timing chain oil pump valve springs all gaskets etc. Main engine bearings rods and pistons are left stock. __________________ 06 Foreman 500 - 29.5 OG Outlaws, 35%, Warn 2.5k, HL^2", <2.5">, EPI, HMF 95 Fourtrax 300 - 27" Zillas, SS212s , Viper 3k, HL^2" 04 XR80 - Stock 07 CRF50 - Stock
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10-16-2017, 08:52 AM	#158
01SSRedA4 Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 220	Motor pullin party. Got damn it. TDC for #3. For those who may not know, the piston is supposed to come above the deck. This is the highest I could get this one, followed by a clunk. Just like I thought..... And this is why you dont pull in engines in flip flops!! Not that this will stop me from doing it again. Lots of new parts showing up daily, engine should be here tomorrow. Broken motor is completely torn down/stripped. All the other new parts in this engine looked great, nothing else seems damaged other then that bearing. So, on to reassembly and upgrades. __________________ 06 Foreman 500 - 29.5 OG Outlaws, 35%, Warn 2.5k, HL^2", <2.5">, EPI, HMF 95 Fourtrax 300 - 27" Zillas, SS212s , Viper 3k, HL^2" 04 XR80 - Stock 07 CRF50 - Stock
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10-16-2017, 09:07 AM	#159
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,568	I'd say you got lucky. How does the crank look? Next time wear sandals, They have the protective strap in the back. lol __________________ 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel
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10-16-2017, 09:16 AM	#160
01SSRedA4 Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 220	It was my own dumbass fault. Getting the crank bolt loose I did two things wrong, 1. was use a non-impact (read cheap) 1/2 drive extension, and 2. decided since the motor was wanting to move when pulling on the breaker bar I'd stand on the k member. Extension broke I hit the concrete with my heel hitting head studs on the way down. Considering the event, the crank and rod actually look good. I think bc i shut it down right after and didnt drive it till it had catastrophic failure it limited the damage. __________________ 06 Foreman 500 - 29.5 OG Outlaws, 35%, Warn 2.5k, HL^2", <2.5">, EPI, HMF 95 Fourtrax 300 - 27" Zillas, SS212s , Viper 3k, HL^2" 04 XR80 - Stock 07 CRF50 - Stock
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10-16-2017, 09:43 AM	#161
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,568	LOL, I've done some of those dumbass things. Most of mine ended up in busted knuckles. Glad to here the crank made it through alright. I wonder what caused the failure? Maybe some of the sludge if coughed up? At least you have easy access for pulling the engine. Try pulling and installing an engine in a truck by yourself with only an engine lift. As big as the engine bay is on a truck its still a tight squeeze it in there. Like threading a needle. __________________ 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel
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10-16-2017, 09:53 AM	#162
01SSRedA4 Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 220	I have a chain hoist hooked to a ceiling beam. Seems to work well, I hook chains to the frame horns just inside of the headlights with the hood removed. Lift the front end straight up. __________________ 06 Foreman 500 - 29.5 OG Outlaws, 35%, Warn 2.5k, HL^2", <2.5">, EPI, HMF 95 Fourtrax 300 - 27" Zillas, SS212s , Viper 3k, HL^2" 04 XR80 - Stock 07 CRF50 - Stock
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10-16-2017, 12:46 PM	#163
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	I've been known to wear safety flip flops in the shop as well. I've learned that it's difficult to push a car in flip flops. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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10-16-2017, 07:22 PM	#164
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	Welding and flip flops is not such a good idea either. __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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10-16-2017, 07:32 PM	#165
01SSRedA4 Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 220	Do it all the time, and i have scars on my feet to prove it!!! __________________ 06 Foreman 500 - 29.5 OG Outlaws, 35%, Warn 2.5k, HL^2", <2.5">, EPI, HMF 95 Fourtrax 300 - 27" Zillas, SS212s , Viper 3k, HL^2" 04 XR80 - Stock 07 CRF50 - Stock
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