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Old 05-29-2018, 09:33 PM   #211
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In some ways I guess this allows me to start fresh. There was always a few ideas rolling around in my head, and I kind of have a different idea of how I want to build the bike this time around.

More aggressive tires than the 705. I am thinking a set of 700's or 244's paired with a tubliss setup.

Also thinking about converting to a round headlight setup with an LED headlight like a Daymaker or Trucklite. The part I am trying to decide is if I eant to go with a 5 3/4 or a bigger 7 inch. I was never fully impressed with the Hawk headlight, even with a brighter bulb installed.

Like the last time, I will probably change out the regular ebay muffler for something else. Not sure what yet, but I have a couple in mind.

There are also some practical mods I want to do. The rear rack for the tt250 comes to mind with some sort of top box for holding tools and what not.

I could ramble for days lol
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Old 05-29-2018, 09:51 PM   #212
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Great news all around, Dan! Personally, I'm glad you got the Hawk. I'm pretty sure I speak for the entire forum when I say we feel like we all have a special connection and sympathy to your plight, whether everyone was able to donate to the cause or not. We're all very excited for you, and hope to have a running monologue about the bikes arrival, unpacking and assembly, and all those farkles you have planned. I'm very happy that this story turned out this way for you.
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Old 05-29-2018, 11:08 PM   #213
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In some ways I guess this allows me to start fresh. There was always a few ideas rolling around in my head, and I kind of have a different idea of how I want to build the bike this time around.

More aggressive tires than the 705. I am thinking a set of 700's or 244's paired with a tubliss setup.

Also thinking about converting to a round headlight setup with an LED headlight like a Daymaker or Trucklite. The part I am trying to decide is if I eant to go with a 5 3/4 or a bigger 7 inch. I was never fully impressed with the Hawk headlight, even with a brighter bulb installed.

Like the last time, I will probably change out the regular ebay muffler for something else. Not sure what yet, but I have a couple in mind.

There are also some practical mods I want to do. The rear rack for the tt250 comes to mind with some sort of top box for holding tools and what not.

I could ramble for days lol



Glad to hear you are getting back on the "horse" or in this case "Hawk" as it were. I was going to suggest why not a TT250 but you guys got there yourselves already lol


Now in terms of if you want to go to a round headlight may i suggest this one?



https://www.ledfactorymart.com/colle...arley-davidson


I run this very light on my Deuce and it performs great. In fact i bought mine on the very simple fact that most of the HOG riders around here recommended it over the actual HD Daymaker.



Low Beam








High Beam






Also in terms of security upgrades...may i suggest an airbag charge hidden in the seat?
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Old 05-30-2018, 01:20 AM   #214
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Dan, what are you referring to when you say tubeless set up ?


 
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Old 05-30-2018, 02:01 AM   #215
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Dan, what are you referring to when you say tubeless set up ?
Tubliss http://tubliss.com/

In simple terms, it's a rim lock that seats the bead in a full 360 around the rim and completely seals off the spoke nipples allowing you to run tubeless. You can literally run down to 0 PSI if desired, and it has been tested as such as well.

A bit pricey - you can get a Front and Rear kit for $180, and somewhat unnecessary unless you want to do some serious off roading. I had planned on a camping/adventure trip with my Hawk this year and wanted to fit these with different tires. This basically is me just taking that same step with the new one.

The biggest appeal to me with this setup is that you can carry a normal patch kit instead of extra tubes. Takes up less space.
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Old 05-30-2018, 02:46 AM   #216
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Glad to hear you are getting back on the "horse" or in this case "Hawk" as it were. I was going to suggest why not a TT250 but you guys got there yourselves already lol


Now in terms of if you want to go to a round headlight may i suggest this one?



https://www.ledfactorymart.com/colle...arley-davidson


I run this very light on my Deuce and it performs great. In fact i bought mine on the very simple fact that most of the HOG riders around here recommended it over the actual HD Daymaker.



Low Beam








High Beam






Also in terms of security upgrades...may i suggest an airbag charge hidden in the seat?
I really was considering the TT250. In the end, I made a questionable choice to stick with the cheaper bike. A big part of that choice came down to the "devil I know" kind of thing. I also decided that, if I were to get something besides a Hawk, I want to get something a big step up from the Hawk,and while the TT250 is arguably a better bike, it's not enough "better" for me to make the jump. I would rather get something with a bit more power and better suspension and hardware like the LXR250 or SR450S.

What I would really love to see is a Hawk style bike with a 450cc single like the one found in the SR450. Or even a Hawk with simply the NC250 engine from the LXR/RX3. Something less hardcore than a race dirt bike, but more off road than an adventure bike that you could go run some trails and have some fun, but also practical and full framed. If I had the capital to pull it off I would honestly start my own company and sell just that lol.

I really like that light, and the price is reasonable. How is it for distance? That always seems to be the downfall of many LED headlights. I was very pleased with the Trucklite 27270C I installed on my GL1000. Distance is the biggest weakness of the stock Hawk headlight.
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Old 05-30-2018, 08:06 AM   #217
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Tubliss http://tubliss.com/

In simple terms, it's a rim lock that seats the bead in a full 360 around the rim and completely seals off the spoke nipples allowing you to run tubeless. You can literally run down to 0 PSI if desired, and it has been tested as such as well.

A bit pricey - you can get a Front and Rear kit for $180, and somewhat unnecessary unless you want to do some serious off roading. I had planned on a camping/adventure trip with my Hawk this year and wanted to fit these with different tires. This basically is me just taking that same step with the new one.

The biggest appeal to me with this setup is that you can carry a normal patch kit instead of extra tubes. Takes up less space.

I'm a huge Tubliss fan, but one cautionary note: the high pressure inner must be checked every day and kept over 100psi. I carry one of these:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0055...e+bicycle+pump
And check the pressure every time. It just takes a few seconds. Generally after a few days you get an idea of how well it will hold pressure. (They seem to stabilize and hold well if you are riding every day.)



I also run a few ounces of Stan's tire sealant. I haven't had to deal with a flat tire on my bike for thousands of miles.



Can't stress enough what a bad day you can have if you don't check the high pressure religiously.


 
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Old 05-30-2018, 08:06 AM   #218
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Or even a Hawk with simply the NC250 engine from the LXR/RX3. Something less hardcore than a race dirt bike, but more off road than an adventure bike that you could go run some trails and have some fun, but also practical and full framed. If I had the capital to pull it off I would honestly start my own company and sell just that lol.
So what your saying is you need to contact these people and start importing them? This is exactly what you just described. http://m.china-motorbike.com/sdm/128...ine_avail.html That would be the perfect bike. 250 and 300 version
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So what your saying is you need to contact these people and start importing them? This is exactly what you just described. http://m.china-motorbike.com/sdm/128...ine_avail.html That would be the perfect bike. 250 and 300 version
at $690, I'll take two please!


 
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at $690, I'll take two please!
By the time you pay shipping cost, import fees, ect, ect, ect. I think it will be just a hair over that. lol
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So what your saying is you need to contact these people and start importing them? This is exactly what you just described. http://m.china-motorbike.com/sdm/128...ine_avail.html That would be the perfect bike. 250 and 300 version
I can't begin to imagine how much the EPA certifications would cost though. Unless the engines used in those bikes are already certified.

That still doesn't give me my 450cc version either. That's the important one.
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I can't begin to imagine how much the EPA certifications would cost though. Unless the engines used in those bikes are already certified.

That still doesn't give me my 450cc version either. That's the important one.
I found The Sunl Group has a 250cc and a 300cc on the EPA list. Not sure if it's the same engines though.
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I'm a huge Tubliss fan, but one cautionary note: the high pressure inner must be checked every day and kept over 100psi. I carry one of these:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0055...e+bicycle+pump
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I also run a few ounces of Stan's tire sealant. I haven't had to deal with a flat tire on my bike for thousands of miles.



Can't stress enough what a bad day you can have if you don't check the high pressure religiously.
I check my tire pressures before every ride, so no worries there! Thanks for the heads up though. Given how that design works, it doesn't surprise me the small bladder pressure is so important. That is essentially creating the clamp pressure for the rim lock and seal. Plus a small volume bladder like that is going to be more sensitive to temperature swings and bleed out.

I like to use Ride-on sealant myself.
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I can't begin to imagine how much the EPA certifications would cost though. Unless the engines used in those bikes are already certified.

That still doesn't give me my 450cc version either. That's the important one.
These are water cooled versions. About 22hp for the 250cc and 24hp for the 279cc
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I really like that light, and the price is reasonable. How is it for distance? That always seems to be the downfall of many LED headlights. I was very pleased with the Trucklite 27270C I installed on my GL1000. Distance is the biggest weakness of the stock Hawk headlight.

Could have sworn i had posted pics of the light on the street on here but i guess not so it took me a bit of time to dig into my photos on the computer to find them.



Here is High beam







and low



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