my ricky hawk 250cc (acually 230) dual sport enduro - Page 2

wilserchinarider · 07-13-2015, 11:22 AM

My Hawk is approaching 200 miles and it seems like the trans is loosening up and finding neutral is getting easier, yet it is still rather difficult with the engine running. My solution for the time being is to not shift to neutral

No problem finding neutral with the bike shut off. Just curious, why do you need neutral with the bike running? I just keep the clutch pulled in....

In my experience, finding neutral can be finicky on lots of bikes. The Hawks transmission does seem a little tight, but not sure I would say mine has a "shifting issue".

jjn · 07-13-2015, 03:15 PM

There are riders that say you should leave the bike in gear at traffic stops, in case you have to make a quick gettaway from a traffic problem. Like a car driver obviously can't stop in time, and will crush you. Myself, I shift into neutral to save wear and tear on the clutch throwout mechanism.

SpudRider · 07-13-2015, 06:53 PM

I downshift into first gear as I stop. I leave the bike in first gear, and watch my mirrors until someone stops behind me. Only then will I even consider shifting into neutral.

xposur · 07-15-2015, 07:33 AM

Yea I like to always put my bikes in neutral aproaching stop lights and or stop signs. It prolongs the life of the clutch as even with the bike as the standstill with the clutch engaged it is still wearing.
Important update.
With about 10 miles on the bike, just for the hell of it I really tightened up the clutch line to where it grabs within the with 1/4 of the lever and low and behold it goes into nuetral like a boss! Rolling or or stoped, no longer have any issues.

wilserchinarider · 07-15-2015, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by xposur

With about 10 miles on the bike, just for the hell of it I really tightened up the clutch line to where it grabs within the with 1/4 of the lever and low and behold it goes into nuetral like a boss! Rolling or or stopped, no longer have any issues.

I always thought that having the clutch cable tight without the proper slack promotes wear of the assembly, not sure what you call it on bikes but it is a throwout bearing on a car....anyhow clutches on my china bikes seem to last forever IME....glad you can easily locate neutral....finding neutral is typically a bit elusive on every china bike i've owned, that is unless I'm lazy upshifting to second, then it seems easy. Accelerate in first, lazy upshift to second and the engine free revs :(

jjn · 07-15-2015, 01:49 PM

As long as you have some freeplay, it should be good. And, if you can adjust some or all of the clunk going from neutral into first, it has to be easier on the transmission.

xposur · 07-30-2015, 12:05 AM

Added some mods to the hawks that made them so much more enjoyable to ride! I installed a shift indicator light and a tachometer.

Weldangrind · 07-30-2015, 12:05 PM

7 grand! Do you think it's reasonably accurate?

andyj812 · 07-30-2015, 05:57 PM

Very nice, I bought a new "dash" speedometer with a magnetic pickup and tach on ebay but I haven't had a chance to install it. I also bought a gear indicator but haven't installed it yet either.

xposur · 08-10-2015, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Weldangrind

7 grand! Do you think it's reasonably accurate?

the tach feel accurate as i have the idle now set to 1500rpm. the bike has a rev limiter around 10k-11k. I feel the torque drop after about 9k

xposur · 08-10-2015, 06:52 PM

anyone have any idea where I might be able to pick up a clutch cable and front brake lever that would work with this bike? Buddy of mine dropped the bike over the weekend when his rear tire locked up riding over a wet bridge and layed the bike down. The lever broke like a candy cane. Didn't even look metal...some sort of composite.

xposur · 08-14-2015, 03:56 PM

found out GIVI and SHAD make mounting kits and cases for the HONDA NXR BROS 150 which is the the same thing as the HAWK but I cannot for the life of me find the part number for it as everything is in Brazilian and they don't have the part listed on any US sites!

Weldangrind · 08-15-2015, 01:38 PM

Are you saying you have a Givi case, but no mount?

xposur · 09-20-2015, 07:06 PM

Yes I do have a giving case but no mount. After doing some more research I did find that there are 2 manufacturer that make mounts but I can't find a way to order it because it is on a Brazilian website.

Update on the hawk at 430miles. The rear pass foot peg vibrated loose and lost a bolt. My kege tachometer no longer works smoothly..it bounces a lot, only time it sits still is during idle which is fine, that's at I need it for the most anyways.

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xposur · 10-06-2015, 05:49 PM

UPDATE on the bike

Took it for some pretty hard offroading last weekend. A lot of thick mud. Uphill tree roots and small hops. I hit some really thick mud in 2nd gear and the bike dropped out of gear and into neutral. It was weird. Hope it doesn't happen again

07-13-2015, 03:15 PM	#17
jjn Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 206	There are riders that say you should leave the bike in gear at traffic stops, in case you have to make a quick gettaway from a traffic problem. Like a car driver obviously can't stop in time, and will crush you. Myself, I shift into neutral to save wear and tear on the clutch throwout mechanism. __________________ Jon, in Keaau, Hawaii
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07-13-2015, 06:53 PM	#18
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	I downshift into first gear as I stop. I leave the bike in first gear, and watch my mirrors until someone stops behind me. Only then will I even consider shifting into neutral. __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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07-15-2015, 01:49 PM	#21
jjn Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 206	As long as you have some freeplay, it should be good. And, if you can adjust some or all of the clunk going from neutral into first, it has to be easier on the transmission. __________________ Jon, in Keaau, Hawaii
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07-30-2015, 12:05 PM	#23
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	7 grand! Do you think it's reasonably accurate? __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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08-15-2015, 01:38 PM	#28
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Are you saying you have a Givi case, but no mount? __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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07-13-2015, 11:22 AM	#16
wilserchinarider Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 380	My Hawk is approaching 200 miles and it seems like the trans is loosening up and finding neutral is getting easier, yet it is still rather difficult with the engine running. My solution for the time being is to not shift to neutral No problem finding neutral with the bike shut off. Just curious, why do you need neutral with the bike running? I just keep the clutch pulled in.... In my experience, finding neutral can be finicky on lots of bikes. The Hawks transmission does seem a little tight, but not sure I would say mine has a "shifting issue".
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07-15-2015, 07:33 AM	#19
xposur Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Des Plaines, IL Posts: 85	Yea I like to always put my bikes in neutral aproaching stop lights and or stop signs. It prolongs the life of the clutch as even with the bike as the standstill with the clutch engaged it is still wearing. Important update. With about 10 miles on the bike, just for the hell of it I really tightened up the clutch line to where it grabs within the with 1/4 of the lever and low and behold it goes into nuetral like a boss! Rolling or or stoped, no longer have any issues.
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07-30-2015, 05:57 PM	#24
andyj812 Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Indiana 812 area code Posts: 293	Very nice, I bought a new "dash" speedometer with a magnetic pickup and tach on ebay but I haven't had a chance to install it. I also bought a gear indicator but haven't installed it yet either.
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08-10-2015, 06:52 PM	#26
xposur Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Des Plaines, IL Posts: 85	anyone have any idea where I might be able to pick up a clutch cable and front brake lever that would work with this bike? Buddy of mine dropped the bike over the weekend when his rear tire locked up riding over a wet bridge and layed the bike down. The lever broke like a candy cane. Didn't even look metal...some sort of composite.
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08-14-2015, 03:56 PM	#27
xposur Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Des Plaines, IL Posts: 85	found out GIVI and SHAD make mounting kits and cases for the HONDA NXR BROS 150 which is the the same thing as the HAWK but I cannot for the life of me find the part number for it as everything is in Brazilian and they don't have the part listed on any US sites!
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09-20-2015, 07:06 PM	#29
xposur Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Des Plaines, IL Posts: 85	Yes I do have a giving case but no mount. After doing some more research I did find that there are 2 manufacturer that make mounts but I can't find a way to order it because it is on a Brazilian website. Update on the hawk at 430miles. The rear pass foot peg vibrated loose and lost a bolt. My kege tachometer no longer works smoothly..it bounces a lot, only time it sits still is during idle which is fine, that's at I need it for the most anyways. M
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10-06-2015, 05:49 PM	#30
xposur Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Des Plaines, IL Posts: 85	UPDATE on the bike Took it for some pretty hard offroading last weekend. A lot of thick mud. Uphill tree roots and small hops. I hit some really thick mud in 2nd gear and the bike dropped out of gear and into neutral. It was weird. Hope it doesn't happen again
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