HAWK Rear Spoke Length? What to Buy? - Page 2

NickThrash · 10-11-2017, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ariel Red Hunter

I would call Buchanon's, and tell them you would like to send them two spokes off of your wheel so they can match them up, and please send your old ones back with the new ones. I'd tell them I wanted 6 new spokes, and see what they say....ARH

hmm.. ya might have to go that route.. seems like a lot of hassle just to get some spokes lol.. you would think it wouldnt be so complicated

**JerryHawk250** · 10-12-2017, 08:23 AM

Did you measure the length and diameter? I haven't had a chance to yet. If it's 162mm x 4mm dia. I think I found them.

Ariel Red Hunter · 10-12-2017, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by NickThrash

Even with the length (162mm) I cant figure out where to buy or order one/some. Like said, buchanan doesnt just list "162 mm spokes, click here" they have a whole bunch of numbers and gauge sizes i have no idea what would work for the HAWK. Even with the eBay one saying they were 162mm someone confirmed that they are in fact the wrong ones.

So we are trying to get info about what would work, and where we could get them, from someone who knows more about spokes or dirt bikes in general.

Nobody can reach in a bin of 162mm spokes and be sure it is the right one. Not only does the length of the threaded end differ, but more critical, the correct head angle is vital...ARH

NickThrash · 10-13-2017, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JerryHawk250

Did you measure the length and diameter? I haven't had a chance to yet. If it's 162mm x 4mm dia. I think I found them.

it looks that it might actually be 4mm in diameter. If you found some let me know. Im down THREE SPOKES now... and am about ready to replace all of them..

Tip is missing.. not sure exactly where you are suppose to measure from but I measured all of what I have of the spoke
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**JerryHawk250** · 10-13-2017, 12:17 PM

This is what I found. It's a whole set including nipples so you won't have to worry about the threads. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/GY-C...281989453.html You could always sell the old ones here to recover some of the money.

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Confirmed diameter is 4mm
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Ariel Red Hunter · 10-13-2017, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by NickThrash

it looks that it might actually be 4mm in diameter. If you found some let me know. Im down THREE SPOKES now... and am about ready to replace all of them..

Tip is missing.. not sure exactly where you are suppose to measure from but I measured all of what I have of the spoke
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All three have broken off at the heads? If so, replace them all. An upgrade would be to 5mm spokes. They are about 20% stronger...ARH

NickThrash · 10-14-2017, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ariel Red Hunter

All three have broken off at the heads? If so, replace them all. An upgrade would be to 5mm spokes. They are about 20% stronger...ARH

Yea, all 3 have broken the same way. Though I have almost 6000 miles on my hawk and have taken it through some rough terrains and trails. Which is probably why they have been popping off, but the FRONT spokes have been no problem at all.

NickThrash · 10-14-2017, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JerryHawk250

This is what I found. It's a whole set including nipples so you won't have to worry about the threads. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/GY-C...281989453.html You could always sell the old ones here to recover some of the money.

Looks like I am going to take a chance with these because im desperate and spokes are popping off randomly and i think the shipping on these is like 30 days so i need to get them ASAP

**JerryHawk250** · 10-14-2017, 01:19 PM

My experience has been about a week and a half to two weeks. They garratee 30 day or you get a full refund. Still slow ,but what you going to do?

can't get them off the shelf anywhere.

timcosby · 10-15-2017, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by NickThrash

Looks like I am going to take a chance with these because im desperate and spokes are popping off randomly and i think the shipping on these is like 30 days so i need to get them ASAP

over tightened maybe???? or unevenly tightened around the rim. do they all sing the same note when plinked? ive ridden some hellasious trails covered with 12" boulders and havent had a problem yet.

Megadan · 10-15-2017, 05:10 AM

Spokes usually break because they are loose or over tight, or the spoke or spokes opposite of them are loose/tight. Plus, once one spoke goes, it increases the load on the other spokes and increases their chance of breaking too.

As far as ordering from Aliexpress, I have had nothing but good luck so far, but yes the shipping time can be a bit tedious sometimes. I usually get my stuff within 2 weeks of placing my order.

If you get these and they do work, definitely report back please. I would love to buy a spoke set for the front and rear to keep as spares just in case. Normally I would go the Buchanan's route, but custom spoke sets from them are upwards of $100+ usually.

Ariel Red Hunter · 10-15-2017, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by NickThrash

Yea, all 3 have broken the same way. Though I have almost 6000 miles on my hawk and have taken it through some rough terrains and trails. Which is probably why they have been popping off, but the FRONT spokes have been no problem at all.

Unless you did the math, that's only 3600 miles. The odometer reads in km's. 6000 miles is just about 10,000 km....ARH

NickThrash · 10-15-2017, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Ariel Red Hunter

Unless you did the math, that's only 3600 miles. The odometer reads in km's. 6000 miles is just about 10,000 km....ARH

Is it really KM?!?! i did not know that! well my HAWK's engine is happy with all the oil changes then lol

NickThrash · 10-15-2017, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by timcosby

over tightened maybe???? or unevenly tightened around the rim. do they all sing the same note when plinked? ive ridden some hellasious trails covered with 12" boulders and havent had a problem yet.

Well ive only checked them every so often, from stock, and very slight tightened any that were a little loose. One day i noticed one broke and checked the rest and they seemed okay. Then another one and then just the other day with very little riding in between, i saw another broken one.

But to be honest i have taken my hawk off some ramps and caught a little air a few times and the HAWK hits down pretty hard. I usually keep it within its suspension's limits but i didnt think about how the rims/spokes would take it. Also i wheelie the sh*t out of my hawk and maybe I just put too much abuse on that back rim for this $1000 bike to handle. IDK.

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JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,574	Did you measure the length and diameter? I haven't had a chance to yet. If it's 162mm x 4mm dia. I think I found them. __________________ 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel
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10-13-2017, 12:17 PM	#20
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,574	This is what I found. It's a whole set including nipples so you won't have to worry about the threads. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/GY-C...281989453.html You could always sell the old ones here to recover some of the money. __________________ 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel
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10-13-2017, 05:46 PM	#21
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,574	Confirmed diameter is 4mm __________________ 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel
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10-14-2017, 01:19 PM	#25
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,574	My experience has been about a week and a half to two weeks. They garratee 30 day or you get a full refund. Still slow ,but what you going to do? can't get them off the shelf anywhere. __________________ 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel
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10-15-2017, 05:10 AM	#27
Megadan Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 8,032	Spokes usually break because they are loose or over tight, or the spoke or spokes opposite of them are loose/tight. Plus, once one spoke goes, it increases the load on the other spokes and increases their chance of breaking too. As far as ordering from Aliexpress, I have had nothing but good luck so far, but yes the shipping time can be a bit tedious sometimes. I usually get my stuff within 2 weeks of placing my order. If you get these and they do work, definitely report back please. I would love to buy a spoke set for the front and rear to keep as spares just in case. Normally I would go the Buchanan's route, but custom spoke sets from them are upwards of $100+ usually. __________________ Hawk Information and Resource guide: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=20331 2018 Hawk 250 - Full Mod list here. http://www.chinariders.net/showpost....62&postcount=1 2024 Royal Enfield Shotgun 650 https://chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=34124
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