Cheap Zong project bike? - Page 2

FastDoc · 12-04-2010, 12:01 PM

I'm off to look at the Zong. I assume you guys want me to briing my camera?

Weldangrind · 12-04-2010, 12:40 PM

Nobody here cares about photos.

Oengus · 12-04-2010, 02:32 PM

I do not think this a good resource...entertaining in sort of train wreck sort of way.
http://www.china-moto.com/cgi-bin/ya...board=zongshen

Oengus · 12-04-2010, 02:48 PM

72.5x55.7...230cc
ZS172MM (GS250)

67x55.7.â€¦196cc
ZS167FML (ZS200GY)

Looks like the GS250 could very likely be a bored out version of the Yamaha engine?

Oengus · 12-04-2010, 03:00 PM

I think the 230cc threw everyone into guessing it was a Honda based designâ€¦but something always troubled me on that it looks nothing like a Honda engine.

It could be a modified version of the engine on the dual sport bikeâ€¦a lot of modifications that may all be cosmetic?

I think they look real good but seem big for the engine power, but I bet you could have some fun with itâ€¦

Oengus · 12-04-2010, 03:09 PM

It looks like everything is in the same placement

SpudRider · 12-04-2010, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oengus

72.5x55.7...230cc
ZS172MM (GS250)

67x55.7.â€¦196cc
ZS167FML (ZS200GY)

Looks like the GS250 could very likely be a bored out version of the Yamaha engine?

You have done very nice research, Oengus.

Indeed, that engine is a Yamaha clone.

I just discovered the next engine I want to put in my Zongshen, Sierra 200GY-2.

Brother Bill, if you don't want that motorcycle, and/or you decide to sell it later, I want first dibs on it!

Spud

Oengus · 12-04-2010, 03:12 PM

Bigger stator or just a bigger cover?

Oengus · 12-04-2010, 03:17 PM

Oengus · 12-04-2010, 03:22 PM

I wish we would have know that sooner! Human Being a an excellent resource! Not me! I just clarified it at best.

SpudRider · 12-04-2010, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humanbeing

NO. ZS250GS's engine is Yamaha based ie big bored ZS200GY-A.

Humanbeing, I am sorry I doubted you; please forgive me. :oops: The engine in the Zongshen ZS250GS is indeed an overhead cam clone of the Yamaha XT200/TW200/XT225 engine; I want one!

Spud

Oengus · 12-04-2010, 03:24 PM

People are comparing that bike to ninja all over the internet and in fact they should be comparing it to a TW200 and it mechanical compatibilityâ€¦. They just increased in value!

SpudRider · 12-04-2010, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oengus

Bigger stator or just a bigger cover?

Everything looks virtually identical to the parts on my Zongshen ZS167FML engine.

This engine has a Yamaha, XT225 magneto, the same as my Zongshen 200GY-2. The right crankcase cover has some extra bolts; otherwise it is identical to my ZS167FML crankcase cover. I am about 95 percent confident this engine would bolt right into my Zongshen 200GY-2, giving me an immediate, 17 percent increase in power.

Spud

SpudRider · 12-04-2010, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oengus

People are comparing that bike to ninja all over the internet and in fact they should be comparing it to a TW200 and it mechanical compatibilityâ€¦. They just increased in value!

Perhaps people should be calling this bike a street version of the Yamaha XT225.

However, this Zongshen engine has 7cc more displacement than the 223cc, Yamaha engine.

I want one!

Spud

FastDoc · 12-04-2010, 03:51 PM

Wow good news!

Thanks for the information and research gentlemen!

I have started a new picture thread. I look forward to doing this project with you all.

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FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	I'm off to look at the Zong. I assume you guys want me to briing my camera? __________________ Happy to serve.
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12-04-2010, 12:40 PM	#17
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Nobody here cares about photos. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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12-04-2010, 03:51 PM	#30
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	Wow good news! Thanks for the information and research gentlemen! I have started a new picture thread. I look forward to doing this project with you all. __________________ Happy to serve.
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12-04-2010, 02:32 PM	#18
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	I do not think this a good resource...entertaining in sort of train wreck sort of way. http://www.china-moto.com/cgi-bin/ya...board=zongshen
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12-04-2010, 02:48 PM	#19
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	72.5x55.7...230cc ZS172MM (GS250) 67x55.7.â€¦196cc ZS167FML (ZS200GY) Looks like the GS250 could very likely be a bored out version of the Yamaha engine?
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12-04-2010, 03:00 PM	#20
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	I think the 230cc threw everyone into guessing it was a Honda based designâ€¦but something always troubled me on that it looks nothing like a Honda engine. It could be a modified version of the engine on the dual sport bikeâ€¦a lot of modifications that may all be cosmetic? I think they look real good but seem big for the engine power, but I bet you could have some fun with itâ€¦
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12-04-2010, 03:09 PM	#21
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	It looks like everything is in the same placement
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12-04-2010, 03:12 PM	#23
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	Bigger stator or just a bigger cover?
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Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826
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12-04-2010, 03:22 PM	#25
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	I wish we would have know that sooner! Human Being a an excellent resource! Not me! I just clarified it at best.
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12-04-2010, 03:24 PM	#27
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	People are comparing that bike to ninja all over the internet and in fact they should be comparing it to a TW200 and it mechanical compatibilityâ€¦. They just increased in value!
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