Another honda project. CL70 + Kazuma Viper 110 + whatever - Page 3

katoranger · 07-08-2009, 02:33 PM

Forgot the pic link. Same picassa album. I am just adding pics.

http://picasaweb.google.com/katorang...Nin3tOJgaCIEw#

I have the kazuma engine sitting there ready to go in. The honda engine is to the side waiting to go away. (Sell it to pay for parts)

Plans are to use the kazuma wiring and incorporate it into some of the stock honda wires for the lights etc. I am going to use the "new" battery from the 250 ninja so that I can hook up the starter and have battery for lights. Might need them on the trails.

Also going to use the kazuma foot pegs and the handlebars and controls.

Might new a sprocket. The honda ones are done.

Also might need to use the brake parts and cable for from the kazuma.

Will probably use the CT70 exhaust that came with the CL to start with.

Allen

AZ200cc · 07-08-2009, 03:30 PM

Can't wait to see how it goes.

katoranger · 07-08-2009, 03:36 PM

It should make a fun little bike to play with. The trails I ride don't have big hills or mud. I am working on some knobbies for it.

Allen

smithyUK · 07-08-2009, 03:41 PM

man that homemade exhast on the kazuma cracked me up lol reminds me a bit of the straight through exhaust pipe i made for my suzuki ts50

katoranger · 07-08-2009, 03:47 PM

It actually sounds pretty good. But it is leaned out with it. I want to keep it stealth so a stock type exhaust will be used. I don't want to irritate the neighbors when riding it.

Allen

AZ200cc · 07-08-2009, 03:52 PM

Must have been a plumbers bike

" don't worry son I'll fix that exhaust and tank in a jiffy, Honey where are the bungee cords??"

Cal25 · 07-08-2009, 04:57 PM

I used the CL70 that I had for trails. That thing would climb anything that I pointed at. very rough ride compared to todays suspention. But I didnt know any better.

I also remember going several miles back into a secluded riding area with a buddy. It was in the 20's and the ground was frozen. As it warmed up, the ground turned to mud. The fenders would clog up with mud to the point that the tires would not turn. My buddy had to pull me all the way back with a rope and MX bike. I was much more aware of mud after that.

katoranger · 07-08-2009, 05:44 PM

I am aware of the mud fact too. Fortunately I stay out of it. I have some plans for improved suspension. Just depends on budget. That can come later.

Allen

katoranger · 07-09-2009, 01:29 AM

I got a new front knobby on the way. The rear tire hopefully will work for awhile.

Allen

katoranger · 07-09-2009, 01:28 PM

Added more pics to the picassa album posted earlier.

Got the engine bolts in. Fit perfect. Chain test fitted. Trying the exhausts out. The better condition CT70 exhaust doesn't fit the head right.

The rusted out CL70 pipe fits better, but the mounts are off slightly due to the large engine I believe. I also need some exhaust studs.

Next need to mount all the wiring and get it running. Then get the brakes functioning and take it for a ride.

Sorry. It is not going to get a fresh paint job. At least until I have it all the way I want it.

Allen

AZ200cc · 07-09-2009, 01:35 PM

Yup test fit before paint so it don't get scratched up. looks like it will be all downhill once You get the exhaust figured out....
Not going to use any spare plumbing You have around are ya?

8O

katoranger · 07-09-2009, 03:59 PM

Well, I got the exhaust mounted. Just had to use some leftover hardware to make some studs and a little chunk of metal for the rear mount.

Installed the electrical. Hooked up the gas tank. Took it for a ride.

I aired up the tires. The rear grabs fine. The front? This thing does fine wheelies. Need to be careful going up hill.

The gearing seems to be fine. Needs a chain and a rear sprocket though. There are not too good. I don't know if I can use that kazuma rear sprocket. It is much smaller. Might gear it too high.

Who needs paint when you have duct tape.

TurboT · 07-09-2009, 04:35 PM

You work fast!

I enjoy reading of the progress.

katoranger · 07-09-2009, 07:23 PM

Well. Its still ugly and my camera broke down. All my pictures have a purple background.

Anyway. I took the rear apart to get the sprocket off. It is worn to points. Need to source a replacement. The sprocket on the CL70 doesn't bolt on. It has the drive pins attached permanently so I will have to get one on ebay. It looks like the CT70 uses the same type. Stock is a 49T and it is pretty low so I think I can get by with 45T or so with no problems.

Probably should clean the wheel up while I am waiting for a sprocket and its off. Can do the front when the new tire arrives.

I also stripped off more of the lights and street parts. Since the sprocket will hold me up for awhile I should get to work on the little ATV. It is shorting and blowing fuses.

Allen

katoranger · 07-21-2009, 11:35 AM

I added another pic to the album above. I got a set of xr100 forks in the load of xr80s I just picked up. It appears that they may fit the stock cl70 trees and give me about 2 more inches of travel.

Also a nice fender to go with.

Allen

07-08-2009, 02:33 PM	#31
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	Forgot the pic link. Same picassa album. I am just adding pics. http://picasaweb.google.com/katorang...Nin3tOJgaCIEw# I have the kazuma engine sitting there ready to go in. The honda engine is to the side waiting to go away. (Sell it to pay for parts) Plans are to use the kazuma wiring and incorporate it into some of the stock honda wires for the lights etc. I am going to use the "new" battery from the 250 ninja so that I can hook up the starter and have battery for lights. Might need them on the trails. Also going to use the kazuma foot pegs and the handlebars and controls. Might new a sprocket. The honda ones are done. Also might need to use the brake parts and cable for from the kazuma. Will probably use the CT70 exhaust that came with the CL to start with. Allen __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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07-08-2009, 03:30 PM	#32
AZ200cc Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Show Low Arizona Posts: 2,889	Can't wait to see how it goes. __________________ <br />2001 Suzuki DR200SE<br />1997 Suzuki RM250 YIKES<br />1995 Yamaha Breeze 125 daughters<br />1991 Honda XR80r Restored<br />maybe a 2003 Yamaha TTR90
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07-08-2009, 03:36 PM	#33
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	It should make a fun little bike to play with. The trails I ride don't have big hills or mud. I am working on some knobbies for it. Allen __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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07-08-2009, 03:41 PM	#34
smithyUK Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 77	man that homemade exhast on the kazuma cracked me up lol reminds me a bit of the straight through exhaust pipe i made for my suzuki ts50 __________________ 'man who be riding bike made in china be walking home' <br />bts 125xtx :mods: dirt tyres,zong hand guards more to come
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07-08-2009, 03:47 PM	#35
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	It actually sounds pretty good. But it is leaned out with it. I want to keep it stealth so a stock type exhaust will be used. I don't want to irritate the neighbors when riding it. Allen __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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07-08-2009, 03:52 PM	#36
AZ200cc Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Show Low Arizona Posts: 2,889	Must have been a plumbers bike " don't worry son I'll fix that exhaust and tank in a jiffy, Honey where are the bungee cords??" __________________ <br />2001 Suzuki DR200SE<br />1997 Suzuki RM250 YIKES<br />1995 Yamaha Breeze 125 daughters<br />1991 Honda XR80r Restored<br />maybe a 2003 Yamaha TTR90
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07-08-2009, 04:57 PM	#37
Cal25 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Terrell and Grapevine Tx. Posts: 1,585	I used the CL70 that I had for trails. That thing would climb anything that I pointed at. very rough ride compared to todays suspention. But I didnt know any better. I also remember going several miles back into a secluded riding area with a buddy. It was in the 20's and the ground was frozen. As it warmed up, the ground turned to mud. The fenders would clog up with mud to the point that the tires would not turn. My buddy had to pull me all the way back with a rope and MX bike. I was much more aware of mud after that.
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07-08-2009, 05:44 PM	#38
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	I am aware of the mud fact too. Fortunately I stay out of it. I have some plans for improved suspension. Just depends on budget. That can come later. Allen __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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07-09-2009, 01:29 AM	#39
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	I got a new front knobby on the way. The rear tire hopefully will work for awhile. Allen __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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07-09-2009, 01:28 PM	#40
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	Added more pics to the picassa album posted earlier. Got the engine bolts in. Fit perfect. Chain test fitted. Trying the exhausts out. The better condition CT70 exhaust doesn't fit the head right. The rusted out CL70 pipe fits better, but the mounts are off slightly due to the large engine I believe. I also need some exhaust studs. Next need to mount all the wiring and get it running. Then get the brakes functioning and take it for a ride. Sorry. It is not going to get a fresh paint job. At least until I have it all the way I want it. Allen __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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07-09-2009, 01:35 PM	#41
AZ200cc Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Show Low Arizona Posts: 2,889	Yup test fit before paint so it don't get scratched up. looks like it will be all downhill once You get the exhaust figured out.... Not going to use any spare plumbing You have around are ya? 8O __________________ <br />2001 Suzuki DR200SE<br />1997 Suzuki RM250 YIKES<br />1995 Yamaha Breeze 125 daughters<br />1991 Honda XR80r Restored<br />maybe a 2003 Yamaha TTR90
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07-09-2009, 03:59 PM	#42
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	Well, I got the exhaust mounted. Just had to use some leftover hardware to make some studs and a little chunk of metal for the rear mount. Installed the electrical. Hooked up the gas tank. Took it for a ride. I aired up the tires. The rear grabs fine. The front? This thing does fine wheelies. Need to be careful going up hill. The gearing seems to be fine. Needs a chain and a rear sprocket though. There are not too good. I don't know if I can use that kazuma rear sprocket. It is much smaller. Might gear it too high. Who needs paint when you have duct tape. __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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07-09-2009, 04:35 PM	#43
TurboT Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Surrey, B.C., Canada Posts: 2,185	You work fast! I enjoy reading of the progress.
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07-09-2009, 07:23 PM	#44
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	Well. Its still ugly and my camera broke down. All my pictures have a purple background. Anyway. I took the rear apart to get the sprocket off. It is worn to points. Need to source a replacement. The sprocket on the CL70 doesn't bolt on. It has the drive pins attached permanently so I will have to get one on ebay. It looks like the CT70 uses the same type. Stock is a 49T and it is pretty low so I think I can get by with 45T or so with no problems. Probably should clean the wheel up while I am waiting for a sprocket and its off. Can do the front when the new tire arrives. I also stripped off more of the lights and street parts. Since the sprocket will hold me up for awhile I should get to work on the little ATV. It is shorting and blowing fuses. Allen __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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07-21-2009, 11:35 AM	#45
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	I added another pic to the album above. I got a set of xr100 forks in the load of xr80s I just picked up. It appears that they may fit the stock cl70 trees and give me about 2 more inches of travel. Also a nice fender to go with. Allen __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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