CDI box install and test (I expect to break 100mph) - Page 3

DirtRoadKing · 04-30-2008, 04:08 PM

Edit; I tried to paste the post, didn't work...

Here's the post. I haven't found one to fit yet. Not a high performance one!

SpeedSouth · 04-30-2008, 04:14 PM

Since I'm the one who asked, I thought it only fair that I post the information.

Here's the HiBird CDI thread - http://www.chinariders.net/modules.p...ewtopic&t=4114

And here's the quote (hope you don't mind, DRK)

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtRoadKing

The Hi-Bird CDI appears to have a different plug configureation than most of the other GY bikes. The others appear to have typical Honda plugs. The only Honda that I can find that has the same plug type as the Hi-Bird's is the Honda Elite 150 scooter and not much in the way of "performance CDI's". Anyone know more about this Type CDI plug type that might work for performance on these Hi-Birds? Thanks

DirtRoadKing · 04-30-2008, 04:21 PM

Thanks SpeedSouth,
I tried but I was not able to paste it on there. Just another thing I need to learn.

SpeedSouth · 04-30-2008, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtRoadKing

Thanks SpeedSouth,
I tried but I was not able to paste it on there. Just another thing I need to learn.

No problem. I'm sorry I felt compelled to ask my question before I made a better effort to answer it on my own.

Part of my curiosity w/ the HiBird is that this ARS unit is listed as for up to the 230cc engines. The Bird being a 250 (and I haven't yet looked to get the exact cc) I didn't know if the same unit would work. Not that it matters, I'm just too curious for my own good. If I were a cat, I'd be dead. 8)

And I just opened the other thread in a new window and hit the "quote" button, then copied it all (it's easy to miss a line) into my post in this thread. Easy as 1, 2, 3.

knothead · 04-30-2008, 06:15 PM

Guys, don't just write off the CDI boxes from smaller bikes. What you're looking for is a more aggressive timing curve and units from smaller bikes are just as likely to have them as from any other source.

DirtRoadKing · 04-30-2008, 06:25 PM

Right, I would try that box if it were a plug and go. The displacement difference wasn't my concern. The terminal plug difference is the only reason there isn't one on the bird...
The only thing I've found with the same plugs is the Honda Elite 150 scooter and it was a stock CDI not "performance" advance curve or higher rev limit.

04-30-2008, 09:09 PM

I wonder if the performance Honda coils on the AMR racing website would fit our bikes.

katoranger · 04-30-2008, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zapkin

I wonder if the performance Honda coils on the AMR racing website would fit our bikes.

I think so.

Allen

CRidin · 04-30-2008, 09:56 PM

So whats the bottom line? Does it work? The honda shop sells it and I have to go there anyway. ? Do I buy it or not. BTW I rode the drz400SM today WOW!!!

TeamCheap · 04-30-2008, 10:06 PM

For me I couldnt tell the difference but Like I posted I never got mine wound out.
I got it up to 65 on the speedo (had a lot of throttle left) but it was just to cold (46F yeah I'm a wuss :roll: ) to run the 1 mile of expressway to give it a good go or blow

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I want to run it some more to really see if it helped my top end, I didnt notice any more improvement to the bottom end.

CRidin · 04-30-2008, 10:16 PM

ok im waitin for more info .

ambassador · 04-30-2008, 10:59 PM

Jeez, I go to work and all heck breaks loose about this, well I got the good the bad and the ugly, here goes...

I got a good flat stretch of highway and topped it out, the thing is, it never topped out, got it up to 84mph, 5th gear at 8000 and it still had more, not wanting to destroy my motor I backed off and figured I got my 58 bucks worth...That's the good part...

It has a hard time idling now, it's more of a chug, chug, chug, cough, repeat but it's only when I set the idle to 1500 or lower, throttle response has greatly improved and I'm sure it would wheelie with a smaller gearing...That's the bad..

Now the ugly,
I can see anyone that wants to do this mod that weighs in at over 200#'s you are going to have a problem with the clutch slipping, I noticed it today, 2nd and 3rd gear(WOT) just seemed to wanna go with or without me on it, I may look into stiffer springs but as I said before it's just a commuter bike, that has a whole lot of top end, useless to me but glad it's there...

It's a worthy mod and something I will use to tweak my air, exhaust and jets around, hope this helps all interested, gonna blast her again tomorrow on the way to work and see if anything changes...

pumpkin · 05-01-2008, 12:49 AM

I wonder how it would do in the West Virgina hills with a fat asz on it?

slimjim503 · 05-01-2008, 06:29 AM

i like the cdi box on my gy5. I think i mite get the coil to to see if it also works ..some one ask if it used any more gas its about the same i have had it on week. mabe less gas

05-01-2008, 07:42 AM

i don't know about you pumpkin, but I'm probably going to find out. hehe.

04-30-2008, 04:08 PM	#31
DirtRoadKing Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 146	Edit; I tried to paste the post, didn't work... Here's the post. I haven't found one to fit yet. Not a high performance one! __________________ 2001 HD Roadking 2008 Hi-Bird/Ricardo http://www.chinariders.net/gallery2/...g2_itemId=8088
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04-30-2008, 04:21 PM	#33
DirtRoadKing Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 146	Thanks SpeedSouth, I tried but I was not able to paste it on there. Just another thing I need to learn. __________________ 2001 HD Roadking 2008 Hi-Bird/Ricardo http://www.chinariders.net/gallery2/...g2_itemId=8088
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04-30-2008, 06:25 PM	#36
DirtRoadKing Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 146	Right, I would try that box if it were a plug and go. The displacement difference wasn't my concern. The terminal plug difference is the only reason there isn't one on the bird... The only thing I've found with the same plugs is the Honda Elite 150 scooter and it was a stock CDI not "performance" advance curve or higher rev limit. __________________ 2001 HD Roadking 2008 Hi-Bird/Ricardo http://www.chinariders.net/gallery2/...g2_itemId=8088
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04-30-2008, 10:59 PM	#42
ambassador Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bradenton, Florida Posts: 1,200	Jeez, I go to work and all heck breaks loose about this, well I got the good the bad and the ugly, here goes... I got a good flat stretch of highway and topped it out, the thing is, it never topped out, got it up to 84mph, 5th gear at 8000 and it still had more, not wanting to destroy my motor I backed off and figured I got my 58 bucks worth...That's the good part... It has a hard time idling now, it's more of a chug, chug, chug, cough, repeat but it's only when I set the idle to 1500 or lower, throttle response has greatly improved and I'm sure it would wheelie with a smaller gearing...That's the bad.. Now the ugly, I can see anyone that wants to do this mod that weighs in at over 200#'s you are going to have a problem with the clutch slipping, I noticed it today, 2nd and 3rd gear(WOT) just seemed to wanna go with or without me on it, I may look into stiffer springs but as I said before it's just a commuter bike, that has a whole lot of top end, useless to me but glad it's there... It's a worthy mod and something I will use to tweak my air, exhaust and jets around, hope this helps all interested, gonna blast her again tomorrow on the way to work and see if anything changes... __________________ 06 Lifan 200 GY-5
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05-01-2008, 12:49 AM	#43
pumpkin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Westover wv Posts: 443	I wonder how it would do in the West Virgina hills with a fat asz on it? __________________ 06 american lifan 200 gy-5
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04-30-2008, 06:15 PM	#35
knothead Join Date: May 2007 Location: In the land of the busted up ricebowl Posts: 815	Guys, don't just write off the CDI boxes from smaller bikes. What you're looking for is a more aggressive timing curve and units from smaller bikes are just as likely to have them as from any other source.
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04-30-2008, 09:09 PM	#37
Guest Posts: n/a	I wonder if the performance Honda coils on the AMR racing website would fit our bikes.
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04-30-2008, 09:56 PM	#39
CRidin Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 181	So whats the bottom line? Does it work? The honda shop sells it and I have to go there anyway. ? Do I buy it or not. BTW I rode the drz400SM today WOW!!!
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04-30-2008, 10:06 PM	#40
TeamCheap Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: directly under the earths sun............NOW Posts: 2,302	For me I couldnt tell the difference but Like I posted I never got mine wound out. I got it up to 65 on the speedo (had a lot of throttle left) but it was just to cold (46F yeah I'm a wuss :roll: ) to run the 1 mile of expressway to give it a good go or blow . I want to run it some more to really see if it helped my top end, I didnt notice any more improvement to the bottom end.
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04-30-2008, 10:16 PM	#41
CRidin Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 181	ok im waitin for more info .
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05-01-2008, 06:29 AM	#44
slimjim503 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: billings mt Posts: 102	i like the cdi box on my gy5. I think i mite get the coil to to see if it also works ..some one ask if it used any more gas its about the same i have had it on week. mabe less gas
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05-01-2008, 07:42 AM	#45
Guest Posts: n/a	i don't know about you pumpkin, but I'm probably going to find out. hehe.
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