1973 Honda CL350 K5 Project - Page 5

SpudRider · 05-21-2010, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim

Spud thanks I will check out those two sites and compare with American Moto Tire...

Edit:
Checked out those first 2 sites, for the same tires, American Motorcycle Tires beats them on price, not sure about shipping charges though... I think those ones are the best match for the bike so far, the IRC GS ones linked to above...

You're welcome, Jim.

You do need to watch out for the shipping charges.

If you order several tires from Motorcycle Superstore, you will get free shipping. Bike Bandit charges a flat rate of $7-$8 for shipping.

Jim · 05-21-2010, 07:09 PM

Ahh yes, it looks like about $40 to ship to Washington from American Moto Tire. Motorcycle Superstore offers free shipping, which it says is saving me about $7. I wonder if it will change when I enter an address. Bike Bandit is more money.

Thank you very much for the info and tips.

So from what I've seen so far I am looking at 2 different choices here...

The IRC GS Tires

S OR H-RATED
TUBE TYPE ONLY
STANDARD INCH AND LOW PROFILE SERIES SIZES
PROVIDES GOOD TRACTION, BRAKING, AND CORNERING AS WELL AS EXCELENT MILEAGE FOR JUST ABOUT ANY SMALL TO MID-SIZED MOTORCYCLE
IRC GS-11 3.50S-18 REAR $55
IRC GS-11 3.25H-19 FRONT $57

OR

Duro HF

FIT CLASSIC/VINTAGE BIKES GOING BACK 35 YEARS
DESIGNED TO FIT BOTH FRONT AND REAR
USE OF MODERN COMPOUNDS AND CONSTRUCTION CREATES HIGHER QUALITY THAN OEM TIRES OF THE PAST
TUBE TYPE
DURO HF314 3.50S-18 R/R TT $33
DURO HF317 3.25H-19 FRONT TT $30

The above info is all from American Motorcycle Tire... The IRC tires are cheaper there then from motorcycle superstore, however they have $40 shipping, where as motorcycle superstore has free shipping, in the end it is about $30 cheaper to go with motorcycle superstore for those tires, at about $130 shipped.

If I go with the Duro's, I can't get them from motorcycle superstore. However, shipping on them from American Motorcycle Tire is only about $16. Around $79 shipped.

What do you guys think would look better on the CL? I'm leaning towards the Duro's mainly because they're cheaper.

SpudRider · 05-21-2010, 08:11 PM

The Duro tires look great to me. I would save the $50 and go with the Duro tires!

Spud

Weldangrind · 05-21-2010, 08:41 PM

Duros all the way, despite the cost savings.

katoranger · 05-21-2010, 08:57 PM

I was very happy with the Duros on my lifan. The duro median would actually make a good street tire too. Kinda of an aggressive look.

Jim · 05-21-2010, 09:04 PM

Thanks for all the opinions

Allen I'm not sure if the median comes in the correct sizes? Either way the other Duro's look like they should suit the bike alright, I'll get an order placed...

katoranger · 05-21-2010, 09:46 PM

Those duros you picked out will be close to original. The medians probably don't come in the right sizes.

The duros are made in Taiwan. Japanese quality, Chinese price.

Jim · 05-21-2010, 11:18 PM

Well I haven't placed an order yet, still doing a bit of back and forth in my head, the IRC tires look a little more "off road" than the Duro's... Not a whole lot, but being that it's a CL and not a CB I am thinking maybe the IRC would suit it better... It is a little hard to tell though with the pictures provided.

Not sure if I mentioned it or not, but the front brake drums that Darwin picked out for me do look like they match... He said it is the same as a cm400 I believe it was. However the actual CL350 front drum is no longer produced with very little stock remaining. It isn't available on eBay, only the rear... So if anyone ends up with a CL and needs front brake drums I can find the part number on the box.

Jim · 05-23-2010, 03:45 AM

Here's what the tread looks like on the original tires.

SpudRider · 05-23-2010, 04:06 AM

The tread pattern on the IRC tires is a better match to the original tire tread. However, as you stated, I think the Duro and IRC tires will have virtually the same traction offroad.

The price difference between the Duro and IRC tires is not that great.

If you like the looks, and the slightly better traction of the IRC tires, I think you should get the IRC tires.

However, I don't think you can go wrong with either choice.

Spud

Jim · 05-23-2010, 04:13 AM

Well I think the IRC rear looks good, I think the front is a little off though, still looking, I don't need them right yet anyways so I'm going to look around a bit more...

These are IRC GP1 tires... I can get the correct size in the rear, but the front is trickier... The closest I can find is a 3.75 - 19, but it's a rear, so these probably aren't the best choice.

Here's a better shot of the IRC GS tires.

Here is a Dunlop K70 the pictured front tire looks good, too bad the back doesn't look the same. Sizes are off a bit as well.

SpudRider · 05-23-2010, 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim

Well I think the IRC rear looks good, I think the front is a little off though, still looking, I don't need them right yet anyways so I'm going to look around a bit more...

These are IRC GP1 tires... I can get the correct size in the rear, but the front is trickier... The closest I can find is a 3.75 - 19, but it's a rear, so these probably aren't the best choice.

Here's a better shot of the IRC GS tires.

Please post a photo of the original front tire, Jim. Also, what is the size of the front tire? If you like the IRC GP1 tread pattern, I might be able to offer a good alternative.

Spud

Jim · 05-23-2010, 04:38 AM

The tread pattern on the front looks identical to the rear in the original tires. I forgot to check the name on them.

OEM size is 3.00 - 19 front, and 3.50 - 18 rear.

How bad of an idea is it to mix and match front and rear tires? Maybe I'll do some googling on the subject. I think the K70 front and IRC GS rear wouldn't look bad.

SpudRider · 05-23-2010, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim

The tread pattern on the front looks identical to the rear in the original tires. I forgot to check the name on them.

OEM size is 3.00 - 19 front, and 3.50 - 18 rear.

How bad of an idea is it to mix and match front and rear tires? Maybe I'll do some googling on the subject. I think the K70 front and IRC GS rear wouldn't look bad.

I don't think you will have any problems mixing the two different brands of tires.

The K70 tire looks like a pretty good match, but it is only available in size 3.25-19.

http://www.dunlopmotorcycle.com/tire...egory.asp?id=9

You might also like the Shinko 244 tire; it is available in size 2.75-19. I have used the size 3.00-18, Shinko 244 tire on the front wheel of my Zong, and it is a very good tire.

Spud

Jim · 05-23-2010, 02:47 PM

The Shinko 244 is a bit more aggressive looking, and cheap.... So many options

From what I've seen (without heading over and actually reading the tires at my parents place), I believe the original tires on the cl30 are a Bridgestone "Safety".

I'm not planning any off road riding for the bike, mainly just looking for something that is appropriate for the "scrambler" design of the bike.

05-21-2010, 07:09 PM	#62
Jim Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada Posts: 4,880	Ahh yes, it looks like about $40 to ship to Washington from American Moto Tire. Motorcycle Superstore offers free shipping, which it says is saving me about $7. I wonder if it will change when I enter an address. Bike Bandit is more money. Thank you very much for the info and tips. So from what I've seen so far I am looking at 2 different choices here... The IRC GS Tires S OR H-RATED TUBE TYPE ONLY STANDARD INCH AND LOW PROFILE SERIES SIZES PROVIDES GOOD TRACTION, BRAKING, AND CORNERING AS WELL AS EXCELENT MILEAGE FOR JUST ABOUT ANY SMALL TO MID-SIZED MOTORCYCLE IRC GS-11 3.50S-18 REAR $55 IRC GS-11 3.25H-19 FRONT $57 OR Duro HF FIT CLASSIC/VINTAGE BIKES GOING BACK 35 YEARS DESIGNED TO FIT BOTH FRONT AND REAR USE OF MODERN COMPOUNDS AND CONSTRUCTION CREATES HIGHER QUALITY THAN OEM TIRES OF THE PAST TUBE TYPE DURO HF314 3.50S-18 R/R TT $33 DURO HF317 3.25H-19 FRONT TT $30 The above info is all from American Motorcycle Tire... The IRC tires are cheaper there then from motorcycle superstore, however they have $40 shipping, where as motorcycle superstore has free shipping, in the end it is about $30 cheaper to go with motorcycle superstore for those tires, at about $130 shipped. If I go with the Duro's, I can't get them from motorcycle superstore. However, shipping on them from American Motorcycle Tire is only about $16. Around $79 shipped. What do you guys think would look better on the CL? I'm leaning towards the Duro's mainly because they're cheaper. __________________ "Be excellent to each other" "We are all human. Let's start to prove it!"
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05-21-2010, 08:11 PM	#63
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	The Duro tires look great to me. I would save the $50 and go with the Duro tires! Spud __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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05-21-2010, 08:41 PM	#64
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Duros all the way, despite the cost savings. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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05-21-2010, 08:57 PM	#65
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	I was very happy with the Duros on my lifan. The duro median would actually make a good street tire too. Kinda of an aggressive look. __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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05-21-2010, 09:04 PM	#66
Jim Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada Posts: 4,880	Thanks for all the opinions Allen I'm not sure if the median comes in the correct sizes? Either way the other Duro's look like they should suit the bike alright, I'll get an order placed... __________________ "Be excellent to each other" "We are all human. Let's start to prove it!"
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05-21-2010, 09:46 PM	#67
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	Those duros you picked out will be close to original. The medians probably don't come in the right sizes. The duros are made in Taiwan. Japanese quality, Chinese price. __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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05-21-2010, 11:18 PM	#68
Jim Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada Posts: 4,880	Well I haven't placed an order yet, still doing a bit of back and forth in my head, the IRC tires look a little more "off road" than the Duro's... Not a whole lot, but being that it's a CL and not a CB I am thinking maybe the IRC would suit it better... It is a little hard to tell though with the pictures provided. Not sure if I mentioned it or not, but the front brake drums that Darwin picked out for me do look like they match... He said it is the same as a cm400 I believe it was. However the actual CL350 front drum is no longer produced with very little stock remaining. It isn't available on eBay, only the rear... So if anyone ends up with a CL and needs front brake drums I can find the part number on the box. __________________ "Be excellent to each other" "We are all human. Let's start to prove it!"
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05-23-2010, 03:45 AM	#69
Jim Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada Posts: 4,880	Here's what the tread looks like on the original tires. __________________ "Be excellent to each other" "We are all human. Let's start to prove it!"
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05-23-2010, 04:06 AM	#70
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	The tread pattern on the IRC tires is a better match to the original tire tread. However, as you stated, I think the Duro and IRC tires will have virtually the same traction offroad. The price difference between the Duro and IRC tires is not that great. If you like the looks, and the slightly better traction of the IRC tires, I think you should get the IRC tires. However, I don't think you can go wrong with either choice. Spud __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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05-23-2010, 04:13 AM	#71
Jim Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada Posts: 4,880	Well I think the IRC rear looks good, I think the front is a little off though, still looking, I don't need them right yet anyways so I'm going to look around a bit more... These are IRC GP1 tires... I can get the correct size in the rear, but the front is trickier... The closest I can find is a 3.75 - 19, but it's a rear, so these probably aren't the best choice. Here's a better shot of the IRC GS tires. Here is a Dunlop K70 the pictured front tire looks good, too bad the back doesn't look the same. Sizes are off a bit as well. __________________ "Be excellent to each other" "We are all human. Let's start to prove it!"
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05-23-2010, 04:38 AM	#73
Jim Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada Posts: 4,880	The tread pattern on the front looks identical to the rear in the original tires. I forgot to check the name on them. OEM size is 3.00 - 19 front, and 3.50 - 18 rear. How bad of an idea is it to mix and match front and rear tires? Maybe I'll do some googling on the subject. I think the K70 front and IRC GS rear wouldn't look bad. __________________ "Be excellent to each other" "We are all human. Let's start to prove it!"
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05-23-2010, 02:47 PM	#75
Jim Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada Posts: 4,880	The Shinko 244 is a bit more aggressive looking, and cheap.... So many options From what I've seen (without heading over and actually reading the tires at my parents place), I believe the original tires on the cl30 are a Bridgestone "Safety". I'm not planning any off road riding for the bike, mainly just looking for something that is appropriate for the "scrambler" design of the bike. __________________ "Be excellent to each other" "We are all human. Let's start to prove it!"
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