what is this GY200? - Page 6

david3921 · 02-12-2018, 08:53 PM

Maybe use hot glue for a quick fix?

Weldangrind · 02-13-2018, 01:06 PM

Regarding the stator wiring, I know the pain that is colour change at a connector. It is so challenging to trace a wiring problem when the damn wire changes colour.

I'm amazed that the centrifugal oil filter came loose. Do you have the tool that is needed to remove and install the nut? Also, note that the three cover screws are not Philips, but JIS.

rjmorel · 02-13-2018, 06:36 PM

"I'm amazed that the centrifugal oil filter came loose. Do you have the tool that is needed to remove and install the nut? Also, note that the three cover screws are not Philips, but JIS. "

Weld , I just ordered a tool off Ebay that is double sided with 2 sizes. I though the screws were kinda funky when I unscrewed them on the slinger.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-Oil-F...72.m2749.l2649

I ended up trying clear Gorilla Glue to fix the air cleaner. so far it looks good except it made the glue joint really stiff and not very flexible. It said it would work on foam so I gave it a shot. Time will tell.
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rjmorel · 02-16-2018, 06:42 PM

The seagulls have landed. Front motor mount ,painted , ready to mount back in frame even though it looks questionable. Now onto rear wheel spokes and turn signal broken pieces. rj
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rjmorel · 02-17-2018, 06:57 PM

It's alive!. Runs, rides, shifts nice, very quiet. Need to replace turn signals as these are broken but work still. Only weird thing when riding is Speedometer is wildly optimistic and the trip and odometer are not turning, but speedometer and tach are? Anyone have experience taking their speedo apart and seeing why this would act up? Would like them to work for keeping track of for oil changes and gas tank fill ups .
I found a complete rear tire assembly that had heavier duty spokes at a salvage yard near here so I put it on for the cost of a good tire. rj

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Weldangrind · 02-18-2018, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rjmorel

The seagulls have landed.

I laughed out loud at that one; my line has always been about boogers and popcorn.

Please show us a pic of the cluster.

rjmorel · 02-19-2018, 12:06 AM

Not near bike now Weld but speedo cluster looks like this one on Ebay. rj

https://www.ebay.com/itm/06-HI-BIRD-...53.m1438.l2649

david3921 · 02-21-2018, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by rjmorel

"I'm amazed that the centrifugal oil filter came loose. Do you have the tool that is needed to remove and install the nut? Also, note that the three cover screws are not Philips, but JIS. "

Weld , I just ordered a tool off Ebay that is double sided with 2 sizes. I though the screws were kinda funky when I unscrewed them on the slinger.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-Oil-F...72.m2749.l2649

I ended up trying clear Gorilla Glue to fix the air cleaner. so far it looks good except it made the glue joint really stiff and not very flexible. It said it would work on foam so I gave it a shot. Time will tell.
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Isn't that about the size of an air cleaner for a riding mower? I wonder if the outer foam, if not the whole thing, can be found at a local big box home improvement store. What does the underside look like?

rjmorel · 02-22-2018, 12:01 PM

david3921 , thanks for the idea. A bit over kill on my end but it worked to see all the gizmos turning.
I'm going to venture a guess that the root cause of the speedo gear stripping was old grease that had turned into hard shellac type stuff and froze the gear axle which allowed the cable driven speedo gear to wear the other gear and maybe sloppy Chinese tolerances so they couldn't mesh together anymore ????
Box store air cleaner another good idea, I'll use the original for now to get it broke in , but keep an eye out for a future replacement when I'm in stores.
The underside of air cleaner looks just like the top side in pic above except the center concave part is punched out to suck the air thru and match the oblong hole in the air cleaner housing. rj

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rjmorel · 03-01-2018, 02:58 PM

So other then riding this bike , and a few small items to fix, I believe this project is about done.
One thing I noticed is the motor is very quiet with no happy tappy valve train noise . It runs great with about 30-40 miles on it now. Do you guys hear your valve tappy sound on these push rod motors? I plan on checking valve clearance after a few hundred miles.
To lazy right now to take all the plastic and tank of again.

Haven't removed CAT yet, and only lifted needle up in carb 1 notch so far. I'm at 930' elevation. Pilot jet screw is out 1 1/2 turns.
Any other suggestions or specific ideas you guys have on making this bike a very usable scoot for us?
Thanks for all your help, it has been a fun project with my son and I'm sure it will provide miles of smiles for us. rj

Weldangrind · 02-19-2018, 10:42 AM

That very cluster came stock on my Lifan, but the speedo and the tach were wildly inaccurate. I installed the speedo from my Roketa (which is in miles, not km) and it is relatively correct.
There is a formula for selecting a speedometer, but I can't recall how it works. I think it's a reference to the rpm of the front wheel, taking the circumference into account. What I do remember is that 2240:60 means the speedo cable is turning 2240rpm at 60mph. Some metric speedometers reference 60km/h (about 35mph), so you'll occasionally see a ratio like 1344:60, which is identical to 2240:60.
If you choose to buy an eBay mechanical speedo, it would pay to first measure your front wheel circumference and Google the formula for speedometer calculation. Make a chalk mark between the right side bottom of your front tire and the ground, roll the bike forward one complete revolution and make another chalk mark. Measure the resulting distance between the chalk marks to determine the circumference.
Of course, the alternative is to buy an electronic speedometer and go the magnet route.

rjmorel · 02-20-2018, 02:33 PM

Going to State Patrol this Thursday for vehicle inspection to get registered and licensed. Hope they don't look at our welds

rj

rjmorel · 02-20-2018, 07:26 PM

Anyone know how to get the trip meter reset nob off? I need to get it off so I can look at the speedo inside to see why trip meter and odometer are not working. There is a small hole 3/32" in the end of it and I put a rod in the hole but I don't feel any release or screw head to unscrew. Has me stumped and it's the only thing in the way of victory

rj

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david3921 · 02-20-2018, 09:38 PM

Maybe pressed on? Try using two matched spoons across from each other to see if you can pry it off.

rjmorel · 02-21-2018, 12:10 AM

I ended up cutting a notch in plastic above the reset shaft. I think nob may be glued on cause no way was it coming off. Saw what problem is that odometer and trip is not working. I'll try and figure out tomorrow how to fix. rj
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02-12-2018, 08:53 PM	#1
david3921 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,032	Maybe use hot glue for a quick fix? __________________ 2012 Kawasaki Versys 1984 Honda Magna V65 2016 Rhino 250 2016 Tao Tao 125D
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02-13-2018, 01:06 PM	#2
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Regarding the stator wiring, I know the pain that is colour change at a connector. It is so challenging to trace a wiring problem when the damn wire changes colour. I'm amazed that the centrifugal oil filter came loose. Do you have the tool that is needed to remove and install the nut? Also, note that the three cover screws are not Philips, but JIS. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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02-13-2018, 06:36 PM	#3
rjmorel Join Date: May 2007 Location: Warshington Posts: 928	"I'm amazed that the centrifugal oil filter came loose. Do you have the tool that is needed to remove and install the nut? Also, note that the three cover screws are not Philips, but JIS. " Weld , I just ordered a tool off Ebay that is double sided with 2 sizes. I though the screws were kinda funky when I unscrewed them on the slinger. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-Oil-F...72.m2749.l2649 I ended up trying clear Gorilla Glue to fix the air cleaner. so far it looks good except it made the glue joint really stiff and not very flexible. It said it would work on foam so I gave it a shot. Time will tell. __________________ Live Zong, and Prosper
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02-16-2018, 06:42 PM	#4
rjmorel Join Date: May 2007 Location: Warshington Posts: 928	The seagulls have landed. Front motor mount ,painted , ready to mount back in frame even though it looks questionable. Now onto rear wheel spokes and turn signal broken pieces. rj __________________ Live Zong, and Prosper
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02-17-2018, 06:57 PM	#5
rjmorel Join Date: May 2007 Location: Warshington Posts: 928	It's alive!. Runs, rides, shifts nice, very quiet. Need to replace turn signals as these are broken but work still. Only weird thing when riding is Speedometer is wildly optimistic and the trip and odometer are not turning, but speedometer and tach are? Anyone have experience taking their speedo apart and seeing why this would act up? Would like them to work for keeping track of for oil changes and gas tank fill ups . I found a complete rear tire assembly that had heavier duty spokes at a salvage yard near here so I put it on for the cost of a good tire. rj __________________ Live Zong, and Prosper
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02-19-2018, 12:06 AM	#7
rjmorel Join Date: May 2007 Location: Warshington Posts: 928	Not near bike now Weld but speedo cluster looks like this one on Ebay. rj https://www.ebay.com/itm/06-HI-BIRD-...53.m1438.l2649 __________________ Live Zong, and Prosper
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02-22-2018, 12:01 PM	#9
rjmorel Join Date: May 2007 Location: Warshington Posts: 928	david3921 , thanks for the idea. A bit over kill on my end but it worked to see all the gizmos turning. I'm going to venture a guess that the root cause of the speedo gear stripping was old grease that had turned into hard shellac type stuff and froze the gear axle which allowed the cable driven speedo gear to wear the other gear and maybe sloppy Chinese tolerances so they couldn't mesh together anymore ???? Box store air cleaner another good idea, I'll use the original for now to get it broke in , but keep an eye out for a future replacement when I'm in stores. The underside of air cleaner looks just like the top side in pic above except the center concave part is punched out to suck the air thru and match the oblong hole in the air cleaner housing. rj __________________ Live Zong, and Prosper
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03-01-2018, 02:58 PM	#10
rjmorel Join Date: May 2007 Location: Warshington Posts: 928	So other then riding this bike , and a few small items to fix, I believe this project is about done. One thing I noticed is the motor is very quiet with no happy tappy valve train noise . It runs great with about 30-40 miles on it now. Do you guys hear your valve tappy sound on these push rod motors? I plan on checking valve clearance after a few hundred miles. To lazy right now to take all the plastic and tank of again. Haven't removed CAT yet, and only lifted needle up in carb 1 notch so far. I'm at 930' elevation. Pilot jet screw is out 1 1/2 turns. Any other suggestions or specific ideas you guys have on making this bike a very usable scoot for us? Thanks for all your help, it has been a fun project with my son and I'm sure it will provide miles of smiles for us. rj __________________ Live Zong, and Prosper
	0

02-19-2018, 10:42 AM	#11
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	That very cluster came stock on my Lifan, but the speedo and the tach were wildly inaccurate. I installed the speedo from my Roketa (which is in miles, not km) and it is relatively correct. There is a formula for selecting a speedometer, but I can't recall how it works. I think it's a reference to the rpm of the front wheel, taking the circumference into account. What I do remember is that 2240:60 means the speedo cable is turning 2240rpm at 60mph. Some metric speedometers reference 60km/h (about 35mph), so you'll occasionally see a ratio like 1344:60, which is identical to 2240:60. If you choose to buy an eBay mechanical speedo, it would pay to first measure your front wheel circumference and Google the formula for speedometer calculation. Make a chalk mark between the right side bottom of your front tire and the ground, roll the bike forward one complete revolution and make another chalk mark. Measure the resulting distance between the chalk marks to determine the circumference. Of course, the alternative is to buy an electronic speedometer and go the magnet route. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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02-20-2018, 02:33 PM	#12
rjmorel Join Date: May 2007 Location: Warshington Posts: 928	Going to State Patrol this Thursday for vehicle inspection to get registered and licensed. Hope they don't look at our welds rj __________________ Live Zong, and Prosper
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02-20-2018, 07:26 PM	#13
rjmorel Join Date: May 2007 Location: Warshington Posts: 928	Anyone know how to get the trip meter reset nob off? I need to get it off so I can look at the speedo inside to see why trip meter and odometer are not working. There is a small hole 3/32" in the end of it and I put a rod in the hole but I don't feel any release or screw head to unscrew. Has me stumped and it's the only thing in the way of victory rj __________________ Live Zong, and Prosper
	0

02-20-2018, 09:38 PM	#14
david3921 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,032	Maybe pressed on? Try using two matched spoons across from each other to see if you can pry it off. __________________ 2012 Kawasaki Versys 1984 Honda Magna V65 2016 Rhino 250 2016 Tao Tao 125D
	1

02-21-2018, 12:10 AM	#15
rjmorel Join Date: May 2007 Location: Warshington Posts: 928	I ended up cutting a notch in plastic above the reset shaft. I think nob may be glued on cause no way was it coming off. Saw what problem is that odometer and trip is not working. I'll try and figure out tomorrow how to fix. rj __________________ Live Zong, and Prosper
	1