The Zongshen TT 250 is Coming

[2LZ]

Originally Posted by simonjester

I just need to get it registered.

One of the (few) upsides of CA. By law, CSC has to do all the DMV work for us. I got the bike and a letter in the mail. I signed and returned the letter (DMV stuff), Sara sent me a temp the day she got it. Took three days total from delivery of the bike to receiving the temp. Now I wait for the plate in the mail since she filed the signed paperwork.
Makes it convenient.

[Ariel Red Hunter]

Originally Posted by SeerAtlas

has anyone definitively answered the weak brake on tt250 issue? kinda seems to me some yahoo prepping them for shipment from china sprayed something thats gotten into the brakepads. hawks had no such problem

Of course China Bikes are sprayed before packaging for final shipment. It is over 5,000 miles from China to here, and by sea to boot. They are loaded in containers at the factory. They sit out in the sun until someone buys the whole container full. Then it sits at the dock, waiting for the ship that is going to haul it. If it goes to Ricky'sPowerSports in Texas by ship (cheapest way), that's another 2000 miles. While it's on the ship, it gets heated up all day by the sun, and cooled off at night. Condensation. And, yes, there have been Hawks with "bad brakes". Same problem.

[Jayman77]

My brakes will stop on a dime front and back

But they sucked for first 100km

[oddthought]

Originally Posted by Jayman77

My brakes will stop on a dime front and back

But they sucked for first 100km

That's more or less what I expected, but perhaps there was just an extra-thick coat of junk on my rotors. I'm at 160 km now and the front brake was pretty weak right up until I couldn't use it at all.

[kohburn]

Originally Posted by RedHawk47

I had the same oil leak on the cap, left fork tube also.

did you get yours resolved yet?

[CDryder]

My bike has shipped! I ordered on 5-25 if anyone is wondering.

How is the oil that comes in these bikes, does it need to be changed out right away?

[crimsenblaze]

TT250 on it's way. Order date was 4/19. ETA 7/21 not to my house but close enough to "squeal" about till it gets here. California to New Jersey, looks like I have a new page to sit on and update repeatedly . Almost time to update my amazon shopping cart also.

[2LZ]

Originally Posted by CDryder

My bike has shipped! I ordered on 5-25 if anyone is wondering.

How is the oil that comes in these bikes, does it need to be changed out right away?

Supposedly, CSC changes out the original stir fry oil. I changed mine at about 100 ticks on the clock to 15/40 just because I like it for break in. The oil I drained looked pretty good and felt good to the finger smear.

[oddthought]

Decided to go ahead and change my oil a bit early. Whole doing so, I also decided to check my sprockets. To my surprise, I found that I have 15 teeth up front instead of the 17 I expected. That would explain the incredibly short first gear and top speed around 55 mph indicated. The oil was in good condition, though it looked like it was sorta... green. Weird color, I mean. I cleaned the strainer, which had one little piece of metal on it, and replaced the oil with some new stuff. I'll ride around tonight and put a few more km on it.

[kohburn]

Originally Posted by oddthought

Decided to go ahead and change my oil a bit early. Whole doing so, I also decided to check my sprockets. To my surprise, I found that I have 15 teeth up front instead of the 17 I expected. That would explain the incredibly short first gear and top speed around 55 mph indicated.

that was my suspicion after the gearing discussion.

wonder if CSC is going to do anything about it?

[BlackBike]

Originally Posted by kohburn

that was my suspicion after the gearing discussion.

wonder if CSC is going to do anything about it?

Cheapo China sprocket may be $5 each wholesale cost. Csc could negotiate with zong to get them free so you might think csc could ship them out at shipping cost which would be about $8 us mail. Multiplied by number of tt's sold. Say1700 units () x8 $13,600 hit for csc...ouch

[oddthought]

Originally Posted by BlackBike

Cheapo China sprocket may be $5 each wholesale cost. Csc could negotiate with zong to get them free so you might think csc could ship them out at shipping cost which would be about $8 us mail. Multiplied by number of tt's sold. Say1700 units () x8 $13,600 hit for csc...ouch

Well, the sprocket is listed for about 3 bucks on the CSC website. That plus the fact that apparently not all bikes were shipped with the 15t makes me think that they won't lose that much. However, I do wonder what the percentage of bikes shipped with each sprocket is. Seems to me that everyone with the 17t sprocket should be able to hit 60 pretty easily, and everyone with the 15 will top out around 50 or 55.

[BlackBike]

Originally Posted by oddthought

Well, the sprocket is listed for about 3 bucks on the CSC website. That plus the fact that apparently not all bikes were shipped with the 15t makes me think that they won't lose that much. However, I do wonder what the percentage of bikes shipped with each sprocket is. Seems to me that everyone with the 17t sprocket should be able to hit 60 pretty easily, and everyone with the 15 will top out around 50 or 55.

Yeah, I was just saying $8 cost to ship to a customer. Unless zong covered all costs. Depends on who made the mistake (Acording to advertised specs).That's the question , what % ? now that we know that some really do have the 17t. Looks like we have a really mystery on our hands, gang.

[SeerAtlas]

Originally Posted by Ariel Red Hunter

Of course China Bikes are sprayed before packaging for final shipment. It is over 5,000 miles from China to here, and by sea to boot. They are loaded in containers at the factory. They sit out in the sun until someone buys the whole container full. Then it sits at the dock, waiting for the ship that is going to haul it. If it goes to Ricky'sPowerSports in Texas by ship (cheapest way), that's another 2000 miles. While it's on the ship, it gets heated up all day by the sun, and cooled off at night. Condensation. And, yes, there have been Hawks with "bad brakes". Same problem.

no offense Red, but "DUH!" I have shipped computers,bikes, mc's, machinery, even a 58 foot yacht to the US from China/Asia by sea. I am somewhat familiar with some of the anticorrosive substances generally employed. What i was saying was that it appears that someone may have mis-sprayed the bikes in such a way that the brake pads got contaminated. NOT just by the small veneer that would have rubbed off the rotors when the bikes were rolled out of the crates.

[oddthought]

Originally Posted by SeerAtlas

no offense Red, but "DUH!" I have shipped computers,bikes, mc's, machinery, even a 58 foot yacht to the US from China/Asia by sea. I am somewhat familiar with some of the anticorrosive substances generally employed. What i was saying was that it appears that someone may have mis-sprayed the bikes in such a way that the brake pads got contaminated. NOT just by the small veneer that would have rubbed off the rotors when the bikes were rolled out of the crates.

I think for me, the main issue was actually the fluid and some air in the brake line up front. My rear brake was just fine. In fact, the rear locked up extremely easily right off the crate. After I changed the reservoir, replacing the brake fluid out of necessity, the front brake came easily up to standard. I did clean the rotor some, but it didn't make a visual or tactile difference that I could tell. That all together leads me to think that the issue was within the system rather than a spray coating like I thought initially.