project Blastard (CHINA-BLASTER) IT'S ALIVE - Page 9

midlifekrisiz · 01-27-2011, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Weldangrind

If that means the operator, you might be right.

BINGO you win a xtra large double double .....we'll buy

TeamCheap · 02-21-2011, 06:11 AM

I worked on the exhaust a bit more sunday mainly making a clamp and sizing the pipe for a tighter fit, no picture sorry. (no big deal)

I did take a picture of the hideous wiring mounts I made,....I dont know why I took the picture but here it is.

I like the nuts welded where things get mounted it just makes it easier to work on later.
(I try to limit the amount of loose nuts I have to deal with

)

I still have to make a mount for the ignition switch and wire in the headlight, taillight, nuetral indicator light and high beam indicator light as well as the clutch switch.

Jim · 02-21-2011, 02:28 PM

Sounds like it's coming a long

Weldangrind · 02-21-2011, 11:11 PM

I say abandon this project now. That engine belongs in your new mini bike.

TeamCheap · 02-22-2011, 05:54 AM

That engine is bigger than that minibike besides I have a 250cc polaris with CVT that I want to stuff in the minibike.

TeamCheap · 04-13-2011, 08:37 PM

Ok some fresh pictures.

TeamCheap · 04-13-2011, 08:39 PM

Hers a vid of me getting a little crazy in the yard.
Its running pretty good but I did have to put a 107.5 main jet in it and I may still have to fine tune some more.

FastDoc · 04-13-2011, 08:41 PM

Hey that looks great! Congratulations on your project!

mizke · 04-13-2011, 09:12 PM

looks very good awesome job..

i wonder what the blaster frame weighed compared to the china frame.. it seems it might be a good bit lighter cuz my 200cc quad with mods and a rejet cant ride a first gear wheelie that good with out some serious yanking up and mashing the throttle at the right time..

TeamCheap · 04-13-2011, 09:41 PM

Thanks for the kind words guys I am very happy with it so far.

So far it seems to be working well but I wont call it done until I get several trouble free hours on it.
It does have a lot of nit picky things that I have to do to it and I plan to paint the frame red this fall if its still running and in one piece.

It will pull the front end somewhat easily but I think the weight bias has a lot more to do with it than people think.

My wifes raptor 350 is almost impossible to get the front end up on which is what I wanted for her.
My 300ex is a wheelie machine and will pull the front end up with ease which is what I like when having to climb over a fallen tree.

The blastard is in the middle of those two.

mizke · 04-13-2011, 09:47 PM

oh believe me buddy i more then understand just how much the power to weight ratio means.. thats how a turbo'd 4banger honda can run with a cobra. the honda only needs about 350-375whp or a little less to run with a 500hp cobra due to the cobra being some where in the 4000-4500pd range and the honda 2000-2500pds..

if you remove 4lbs off the rotational mass of a cars flywheel, it has the same effect as removing 100pds off the body of the car in terms of acceleration..

Weldangrind · 04-13-2011, 10:52 PM

That looks store bought! I'd be worried about busting spindles on my China quad riding on both right wheels like that.

There's horsepower hiding in that muffler.

TeamCheap · 04-14-2011, 06:02 AM

I wasnt talking about the power to weight ratio's I was talking about the weight bias/weight distribution having an effect on on how easy or hard it is to pull a wheelie.

At some point when you have gobbs of horse power it will just easily overcome the weight but on a little 200cc atv with modest HP its more of a matter of where the weight is on the ATV overall.If I had put that engine farther forward it would take a lot more to pull the front end up.
I jammed the engine as far back as it could go for chain reasons more than weight distribution.

Weldandgrind It does have a bent left spindle already (I have another) but I have no worries with that frame although they will break.
There is all the work I did to it to worry about but overall I can beat it hard and it will come back for more.
That exhaust is more open than I thought and I will most likely have to rejet it again.
I'm sure your ATV would hold up just fine.
7" of suspension travel is nice and I hope I can use it all soon, I cant hardly wait to get it up to the trails..

Riding it on two side wheels like that is easy and fun I love how easy the blasters are to ride.

I have to do some serious work on the rear brakes because they are almost unnoticable.

TeamCheap · 08-13-2011, 07:47 PM

OMG
I just came in from checking the intake manifold I made for leaks and............its a leaker.....well was a leaker, I got a lot of them welded up but I still have to clean/grind on it and recheck.

I took it off the quad because I ran it and noticed a backfire and seen a small jet of fuel shooting out of the manifold side when it backfired. :roll:

I removed it and made a couple of block off plates for the ends and one has a air hose fitting that I was putting about 15-20psi into then checking with some leak detection solution you can buy most anywhere.

It still has a few very very small leaks that I'll take care of sunday.

Weldangrind · 08-13-2011, 10:12 PM

Maybe you could tap the intake tube for pipe thread, which would allow you to install a small barb. The benefit is that you could connect a vacuum gauge to confirm that there are no leaks, and you could use it for tuning. As I understand it, the air / fuel screw will be at the correct point (at idle) when the vacuum signal is the highest.

BTW, if there is a vacuum leak, the gauge will bounce.

02-21-2011, 02:28 PM	#123
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02-21-2011, 11:11 PM	#124
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	I say abandon this project now. That engine belongs in your new mini bike. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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04-13-2011, 08:41 PM	#128
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	Hey that looks great! Congratulations on your project! __________________ Happy to serve.
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04-13-2011, 09:12 PM	#129
mizke Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: austin, tx Posts: 1,452	looks very good awesome job.. i wonder what the blaster frame weighed compared to the china frame.. it seems it might be a good bit lighter cuz my 200cc quad with mods and a rejet cant ride a first gear wheelie that good with out some serious yanking up and mashing the throttle at the right time.. __________________ 200cc beast replica,carsoli cdi,performance coil,fmf powercore 2,uni air filter,hour/tach meter,jetted mikuni carb,msr bars,moose racing grips,yz250f clutch perch,D.I.D chain
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04-13-2011, 09:47 PM	#131
mizke Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: austin, tx Posts: 1,452	oh believe me buddy i more then understand just how much the power to weight ratio means.. thats how a turbo'd 4banger honda can run with a cobra. the honda only needs about 350-375whp or a little less to run with a 500hp cobra due to the cobra being some where in the 4000-4500pd range and the honda 2000-2500pds.. if you remove 4lbs off the rotational mass of a cars flywheel, it has the same effect as removing 100pds off the body of the car in terms of acceleration.. __________________ 200cc beast replica,carsoli cdi,performance coil,fmf powercore 2,uni air filter,hour/tach meter,jetted mikuni carb,msr bars,moose racing grips,yz250f clutch perch,D.I.D chain
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02-21-2011, 06:11 AM	#122
TeamCheap Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: directly under the earths sun............NOW Posts: 2,302	I worked on the exhaust a bit more sunday mainly making a clamp and sizing the pipe for a tighter fit, no picture sorry. (no big deal) I did take a picture of the hideous wiring mounts I made,....I dont know why I took the picture but here it is. I like the nuts welded where things get mounted it just makes it easier to work on later. (I try to limit the amount of loose nuts I have to deal with ) I still have to make a mount for the ignition switch and wire in the headlight, taillight, nuetral indicator light and high beam indicator light as well as the clutch switch.
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02-22-2011, 05:54 AM	#125
TeamCheap Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: directly under the earths sun............NOW Posts: 2,302	That engine is bigger than that minibike besides I have a 250cc polaris with CVT that I want to stuff in the minibike.
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04-13-2011, 08:37 PM	#126
TeamCheap Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: directly under the earths sun............NOW Posts: 2,302	Ok some fresh pictures.
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04-13-2011, 08:39 PM	#127
TeamCheap Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: directly under the earths sun............NOW Posts: 2,302	Hers a vid of me getting a little crazy in the yard. Its running pretty good but I did have to put a 107.5 main jet in it and I may still have to fine tune some more.
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04-13-2011, 09:41 PM	#130
TeamCheap Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: directly under the earths sun............NOW Posts: 2,302	Thanks for the kind words guys I am very happy with it so far. So far it seems to be working well but I wont call it done until I get several trouble free hours on it. It does have a lot of nit picky things that I have to do to it and I plan to paint the frame red this fall if its still running and in one piece. It will pull the front end somewhat easily but I think the weight bias has a lot more to do with it than people think. My wifes raptor 350 is almost impossible to get the front end up on which is what I wanted for her. My 300ex is a wheelie machine and will pull the front end up with ease which is what I like when having to climb over a fallen tree. The blastard is in the middle of those two.
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04-13-2011, 10:52 PM	#132
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	That looks store bought! I'd be worried about busting spindles on my China quad riding on both right wheels like that. There's horsepower hiding in that muffler. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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04-14-2011, 06:02 AM	#133
TeamCheap Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: directly under the earths sun............NOW Posts: 2,302	I wasnt talking about the power to weight ratio's I was talking about the weight bias/weight distribution having an effect on on how easy or hard it is to pull a wheelie. At some point when you have gobbs of horse power it will just easily overcome the weight but on a little 200cc atv with modest HP its more of a matter of where the weight is on the ATV overall.If I had put that engine farther forward it would take a lot more to pull the front end up. I jammed the engine as far back as it could go for chain reasons more than weight distribution. Weldandgrind It does have a bent left spindle already (I have another) but I have no worries with that frame although they will break. There is all the work I did to it to worry about but overall I can beat it hard and it will come back for more. That exhaust is more open than I thought and I will most likely have to rejet it again. I'm sure your ATV would hold up just fine. 7" of suspension travel is nice and I hope I can use it all soon, I cant hardly wait to get it up to the trails.. Riding it on two side wheels like that is easy and fun I love how easy the blasters are to ride. I have to do some serious work on the rear brakes because they are almost unnoticable.
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08-13-2011, 07:47 PM	#134
TeamCheap Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: directly under the earths sun............NOW Posts: 2,302	OMG I just came in from checking the intake manifold I made for leaks and............its a leaker.....well was a leaker, I got a lot of them welded up but I still have to clean/grind on it and recheck. I took it off the quad because I ran it and noticed a backfire and seen a small jet of fuel shooting out of the manifold side when it backfired. :roll: I removed it and made a couple of block off plates for the ends and one has a air hose fitting that I was putting about 15-20psi into then checking with some leak detection solution you can buy most anywhere. It still has a few very very small leaks that I'll take care of sunday.
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08-13-2011, 10:12 PM	#135
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Maybe you could tap the intake tube for pipe thread, which would allow you to install a small barb. The benefit is that you could connect a vacuum gauge to confirm that there are no leaks, and you could use it for tuning. As I understand it, the air / fuel screw will be at the correct point (at idle) when the vacuum signal is the highest. BTW, if there is a vacuum leak, the gauge will bounce. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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