07-27-2011, 12:56 PM | #121 | |
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07-27-2011, 01:04 PM | #122 |
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Kato: Thanks, I'll do it.
Spud: Ga. It may have the NHTSA label on it, I just did some research and found out what it looks like. |
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07-27-2011, 01:10 PM | #123 |
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It is a black and silver label about 2x3 or so.
In GA the four letter code for Lifan was LFAN I think. |
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07-27-2011, 01:18 PM | #124 |
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I see some stickers on the chainguard.
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07-27-2011, 02:10 PM | #125 |
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I think you are correct. I'll double check when I get home.
Also, I think it may be listed under Chongqing Yingang (that is how it appears in the NHTSA database). http://stnw.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/manufacture/ I will make another run at the inspection tomorrow. |
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07-27-2011, 03:24 PM | #126 |
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This makes me feel all the more fortunate to work where I do and just have a Game Warden sign off on my Q's VIN verification. Wow....
It also stuns and amazes me when I hear about other states actually being MORE difficult to work with than the PRK! 8O That doesn't happen very often! :o Good luck! When I finally got my pink and tag in the mail, it was a great relief.
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07-27-2011, 03:56 PM | #127 |
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In Idaho a police officer merely verifies the VINs are the same on the paperwork, and the bike. Nobody in Idaho cares about a VIN database.
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07-28-2011, 08:57 AM | #128 |
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The company is recorded with the NHSTA under LY4, however the required VIN decoding document with the NHSTA is missing.
The actual VIN databases are all private databases compiled by private companies off the VIN decoding documents that are on file with the NHSTA. The reason that the State of Georgia cannot find it, is because the information does not exist at its primary source. http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/maninfo/mcpkg002.pdf Look up LAE (WMI) at the NHSTA and then look under the section FILE NAME and you will see what is missing. The NHSTA files VIN decoding documents with the ORG prefix. Yingang never filed the paper work. |
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07-28-2011, 09:10 AM | #129 |
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You may have to get real proactive to get that bike titled, you would need to light a fire under Yingang. But my guess is that they will not perform, instead they will object and contest.
The North American sales reps name is Jessie contact information is on the Yingang website. The PDF attached is for them to read and understand it has a contact name on it, an administrative at the NHSTA. A VIN decoding document must be filed with the NHSTA in order for your motorcycle to be titled. That can only come from the manufacturer, the OEM that being YINGANG. |
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07-28-2011, 10:21 AM | #130 |
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Oengus,
Thanks, I emailed her yesterday. She has been very responsive so far (since I purchased the bike). |
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07-28-2011, 11:19 AM | #131 |
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I know this is from New Jersey, but id doesn't show Yingang as being approved by the NHSTA:
http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/pdf/Vehic...ufacturers.pdf Awaiting response from Massimo and YingangUSA. :?: PS I think this is what Oengus was referring to above^^ |
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07-29-2011, 06:22 AM | #132 |
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Everything is explained in this document.
http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/maninfo/mcpkg002.pdf It is for the most part procedural law and primarily if not entirely federal consumer protection regulations. |
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08-01-2011, 10:28 AM | #133 | |
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Went to to the tag office Friday after the officer verified the VIN. and Logged it into the GA database with Yingang as the Manufacturer. The MSO has Massimo (which is incorrect) as the manufacturer. One hour later they tell me to come back on Monday, they have to call Atlanta and get the manufacturer on the MSO to match the VIN, which is now in the database with as Yingang the manufacturer. Then, I could get a tag. Get the TAG, round three This morning (Monday) went back to the tag office. They called Atlanta, after 45 minutes on the phone. They tell me I can't get a tag because neither Massimo or Yingang are in the GA NHSTA database. AARARRRGGGGHHHH! They said I'd have to get with Massimo or Yingang and get them to fill out the proper paper work (as discussed above by Oengus). CALLS IN TO MASSIMO AND YINGANG! Lesson learned - Ask the local authorities if you bike is listed with the NHSTA and is listed in the VIN database. |
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08-01-2011, 10:55 PM | #134 |
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08-02-2011, 09:20 AM | #135 | |
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• I talked with some one at the tag office who was willing to see if Yingang was listed under Chongqing Yingang in the NHTSA book, and they were. She is going to see if she can work with the MSO that I have, she faxed it to Atlanta to try and resolve the issue. There is still a discrepancy on the make listed on the MSO as Massimo, not Chongqing Yingang. •ÂI also talked with Massimo, and they said they would do whatever they needed to, so that I could get the bike tagged. •ÂAs a further note, on the VIN verification, the officer wrote down the VIN incorrectly and after I get the MSO and NHTSA business squared away, I will have to redo the VIN verification form and have the inspection re-done. |
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