Mrs. 2LZ TT250. Into the Fire.... - Page 3

2LZ · 07-19-2016, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Azhule

Check out this on the Watt-Man website, people are doing similar things to their KLR 650s... I'm sure grease fittings can get put on our China Bikes also

http://www.watt-man.com/uploads/ZerkInstallation.pdf

That looks like a great idea! I was thinking of a zerk in the middle of the swingarm. My mistake.....

Weldangrind · 07-19-2016, 11:25 AM

This thread brings me so much joy!

kohburn · 07-19-2016, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 2LZ

Then, this morning I woke up thinking it would be a great disservice to our humble community here if I didn't attempt to repair the "leaky adjuster screw" some of us have. My right one has been weeping. I'll be looking at that tonight to see what I can see.

I've got one dismantled at home

CSC sent me a replacement cap to install so after I did that I dismantled the original one to find the o-ring with a section that was pinched off during the installation. I plan to rebuild it with a new better o-ring to keep as a spare.

2LZ · 07-19-2016, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kohburn

I've got one dismantled at home

CSC sent me a replacement cap to install so after I did that I dismantled the original one to find the o-ring with a section that was pinched off during the installation. I plan to rebuild it with a new better o-ring to keep as a spare.

Awesome news! A screwed up o-ring was what I was hoping to find. I'm glad though that CSC backed you up with a new part. Great service.
I have a ton of O-rings so I'm hoping I have the right one in stock....

kohburn · 07-19-2016, 01:05 PM

I'm 90% sure I have the right size in a basic butyl rubber o-ring, but I'd like to replace it with something a little more robust and less prone to pinching.

2LZ · 07-19-2016, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kohburn

.....something a little more robust and less prone to pinching.

That sounds like all the qualities of a really good beer! ;-)

oddthought · 07-19-2016, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kohburn

I'd like to replace it with something a little more robust and less prone to pinching.

Whaddaya know, I've thought the same thing about one or two of my kids!

2LZ · 07-20-2016, 09:57 AM

Good morning fellow China Riders.

As kohburn and I discussed yesterday, I decided to open up the right fork and go in after that o-ring. All was going well and I was taking pics as I was moving along....until I got the cap off, the fat rubber washer removed and placed it in the vise. BTW, the cap is held in place by the usual double-nut setup.

On a side note, it is kinda cool how that little screw/rod works, once I got it in my sights (see pic on workbench with needed supplies on hand). I can tell you that the little screw head is "in place" in the cap and the rod threads into it, via a slot and flat blade type of joint. The tricky part is when you're screwing that rod back into the cap....to line up the blade with the slot and finish threading it in. If the screw isn't turning as you turn the rod, they aren't mated together. Keep that in mind.

As you can see, the inner piece of that cap has been thread locked with something akin to red locktite. I had a long wrench on it trying to coerce it back and forth but to no avail. I didn't want to destroy it or spin off the aluminum head of the thing. I was aware that something like this may occur from a post I had read on advrider but I was hoping for a work-around.

In the meantime, I've emailed Ryan with a pic and am hoping for a warranty replacement for it....before I take a torch to this one and try to bust it lose. We'll see. I just didn't want to go after this with a torch yet until I had a backup.

2LZ · 07-20-2016, 10:10 AM

Not like dual carbs...(yet)...but like the Mikuni vs the Keihin clone PZ.

I got the Mikuni last night and already had the jets on hand from Jets-R-Us (they always ship to me blisteringly fast).

I unboxed the Mikuni and it was the usual, nicely done carb that I've received in the past. I installed the jetting I'm starting with (25/110) and set the screw at an even two turns out just for reference....then mounted it on the TT.

I don't have comparison pics because..well..I blew it....but I have to give another "hats off" to Zongshen for the PZ carb they are using on the TT250. Compared to the POS sealed up PZ that came on my Rhino (it looked like a sandcasting from a 5 year old, gone bad), this PZ carb seems a really nice piece. So....that being said, unless you want all matching carbs on your Hondoids for jet swapping...and especially if you do the cheap PZ rebuild kit that has the real mixture screw like rojo linked for us....I really don't see any reason to spend the 30.00 to swap it out, if you have the right jetting for your mods/elevation. Really.

I'm going to keep the PZ as a backup and stuff one of those rebuild kits with the screw in it.

SeerAtlas · 07-20-2016, 10:42 AM

[Q UOTE=kohburn;225436]I'm 90% sure I have the right size in a basic butyl rubber o-ring, but I'd like to replace it with something a little more robust and less prone to pinching.[/QUOTE]

sounds like a friend's critique of the population in the Florida Keys, specifically Key West!
(for you straight east coast and midwest types, think Province Town Mass or San Francisco

ughmas · 07-20-2016, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 2LZ

Good morning fellow China Riders.

As kohburn and I discussed yesterday, I decided to open up the right fork and go in after that o-ring. All was going well and I was taking pics as I was moving along....until I got the cap off, the fat rubber washer removed and placed it in the vise. BTW, the cap is held in place by the usual double-nut setup.

On a side note, it is kinda cool how that little screw/rod works, once I got it in my sights (see pic on workbench with needed supplies on hand). I can tell you that the little screw head is "in place" in the cap and the rod threads into it, via a slot and flat blade type of joint. The tricky part is when you're screwing that rod back into the cap....to line up the blade with the slot and finish threading it in. If the screw isn't turning as you turn the rod, they aren't mated together. Keep that in mind.

As you can see, the inner piece of that cap has been thread locked with something akin to red locktite. I had a long wrench on it trying to coerce it back and forth but to no avail. I didn't want to destroy it or spin off the aluminum head of the thing. I was aware that something like this may occur from a post I had read on advrider but I was hoping for a work-around.

In the meantime, I've emailed Ryan with a pic and am hoping for a warranty replacement for it....before I take a torch to this one and try to bust it lose. We'll see. I just didn't want to go after this with a torch yet until I had a backup.

Nice work 2LZ, hopefully they will replace it for you. I had a slight drop of oil on the top of my right fork when I first got it, however after I wiped it off I have not seen any oil come out since. Hoping mine hold up OK.

pcspecialist · 07-20-2016, 10:48 AM

why the inline filter? Did you remove the filter in the gas tank?

SeerAtlas · 07-20-2016, 10:52 AM

Well I seem to have dodged the weeping o'ring problem on my tt250, but alas, something seems to be wrong deeper inside my front forks, almost feels/sounds like something has gone adrift in there..:( Hopefully its something simple but i'm afraid 'hope' in this case may be unrequited :(

2LZ · 07-20-2016, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by pcspecialist

why the inline filter? Did you remove the filter in the gas tank?

The bike came with an inline filter....that broke apart and leaked with about 10 miles on it. I just replaced it and the cheap fuel line with "known good" since I had to remove it.

Did not remove the tank filter.

SeerAtlas · 07-20-2016, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by 2LZ

The bike came with an inline filter....that broke apart and leaked with about 10 miles on it. I just replaced it and the cheap fuel line with "known good" since I had to remove it.

Did not remove the tank filter.

my inline filter was NOT completely set/secured into the gas lines on both ends- came loose the first curb I climbed getting into a driveway. fortunately for me, the engine was not yet fully hot, and the gas managed to miss anything electrically live. :(

anyway, something that bares inspection immediately upon un-crating your bikes.

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07-19-2016, 01:05 PM	#35
kohburn Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Coastal NC Posts: 537	I'm 90% sure I have the right size in a basic butyl rubber o-ring, but I'd like to replace it with something a little more robust and less prone to pinching. __________________ -whatever you do, just be awesome. - 2008 Kawasaki Versys - 2016 CSC TT250
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07-20-2016, 09:57 AM	#38
2LZ Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Volcano, Ca Posts: 7,078	Forks Good morning fellow China Riders. As kohburn and I discussed yesterday, I decided to open up the right fork and go in after that o-ring. All was going well and I was taking pics as I was moving along....until I got the cap off, the fat rubber washer removed and placed it in the vise. BTW, the cap is held in place by the usual double-nut setup. On a side note, it is kinda cool how that little screw/rod works, once I got it in my sights (see pic on workbench with needed supplies on hand). I can tell you that the little screw head is "in place" in the cap and the rod threads into it, via a slot and flat blade type of joint. The tricky part is when you're screwing that rod back into the cap....to line up the blade with the slot and finish threading it in. If the screw isn't turning as you turn the rod, they aren't mated together. Keep that in mind. As you can see, the inner piece of that cap has been thread locked with something akin to red locktite. I had a long wrench on it trying to coerce it back and forth but to no avail. I didn't want to destroy it or spin off the aluminum head of the thing. I was aware that something like this may occur from a post I had read on advrider but I was hoping for a work-around. In the meantime, I've emailed Ryan with a pic and am hoping for a warranty replacement for it....before I take a torch to this one and try to bust it lose. We'll see. I just didn't want to go after this with a torch yet until I had a backup. __________________ "Light a fire for a man, and you heat him for a day. Light a man on fire, and you heat him for the rest of his life." 2007 Suzuki DRZ400S (SM convert) 2009 Q Link XP 200 1967 BSA B25 250cc Starfire 2022 Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 2023 Royal Enfield Scram 411 1948 Royal Enfield Model G 350 Last edited by 2LZ; 03-27-2017 at 05:09 PM.
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07-20-2016, 10:10 AM	#39
2LZ Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Volcano, Ca Posts: 7,078	Carbs Not like dual carbs...(yet)...but like the Mikuni vs the Keihin clone PZ. I got the Mikuni last night and already had the jets on hand from Jets-R-Us (they always ship to me blisteringly fast). I unboxed the Mikuni and it was the usual, nicely done carb that I've received in the past. I installed the jetting I'm starting with (25/110) and set the screw at an even two turns out just for reference....then mounted it on the TT. I don't have comparison pics because..well..I blew it....but I have to give another "hats off" to Zongshen for the PZ carb they are using on the TT250. Compared to the POS sealed up PZ that came on my Rhino (it looked like a sandcasting from a 5 year old, gone bad), this PZ carb seems a really nice piece. So....that being said, unless you want all matching carbs on your Hondoids for jet swapping...and especially if you do the cheap PZ rebuild kit that has the real mixture screw like rojo linked for us....I really don't see any reason to spend the 30.00 to swap it out, if you have the right jetting for your mods/elevation. Really. I'm going to keep the PZ as a backup and stuff one of those rebuild kits with the screw in it. __________________ "Light a fire for a man, and you heat him for a day. Light a man on fire, and you heat him for the rest of his life." 2007 Suzuki DRZ400S (SM convert) 2009 Q Link XP 200 1967 BSA B25 250cc Starfire 2022 Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 2023 Royal Enfield Scram 411 1948 Royal Enfield Model G 350 Last edited by 2LZ; 03-27-2017 at 05:09 PM.
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07-20-2016, 10:42 AM	#40
SeerAtlas Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 770	[Q UOTE=kohburn;225436]I'm 90% sure I have the right size in a basic butyl rubber o-ring, but I'd like to replace it with something a little more robust and less prone to pinching.[/QUOTE] sounds like a friend's critique of the population in the Florida Keys, specifically Key West! (for you straight east coast and midwest types, think Province Town Mass or San Francisco __________________ Seer's First LAW-"FLY THE PLANE!", fail that, and nothing else matters. 12th Law- Consider what marvels you might do if only you had tomorrow to live over again. Third Law-When someone tells you some thing "Can't Be Done", what they're really saying is They can't do it!!14th Law-Just because something "IS", doesn't necessarily mean it SHOULD be.. Eighth Law-The only true personal security is anonymity.Ninth Law-Humans tend to learn very little when speaking.10th Law-Some lives ARE worth taking
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07-20-2016, 10:48 AM	#42
pcspecialist Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 583	why the inline filter? Did you remove the filter in the gas tank?
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07-20-2016, 10:52 AM	#43
SeerAtlas Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 770	Well I seem to have dodged the weeping o'ring problem on my tt250, but alas, something seems to be wrong deeper inside my front forks, almost feels/sounds like something has gone adrift in there..:( Hopefully its something simple but i'm afraid 'hope' in this case may be unrequited :( __________________ Seer's First LAW-"FLY THE PLANE!", fail that, and nothing else matters. 12th Law- Consider what marvels you might do if only you had tomorrow to live over again. Third Law-When someone tells you some thing "Can't Be Done", what they're really saying is They can't do it!!14th Law-Just because something "IS", doesn't necessarily mean it SHOULD be.. Eighth Law-The only true personal security is anonymity.Ninth Law-Humans tend to learn very little when speaking.10th Law-Some lives ARE worth taking
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