Q9 Powersports shipments

[f15sim]

One of the things that burns me the most is that I fell for the "sale timer" thing on the TBR7 page. It's just a stupid Javascript counter that resets every 24 hours. Those jerks have even configured nearly all their pages to prevent right-click actions or selecting any text.


In hindsight, looking all over their site, the whole place screams "skeezy used car dealer".


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[Deckard_Cain]

Originally Posted by f15sim

One of the things that burns me the most is that I fell for the "sale timer" thing on the TBR7 page. It's just a stupid Javascript counter that resets every 24 hours. Those jerks have even configured nearly all their pages to prevent right-click actions or selecting any text.


In hindsight, looking all over their site, the whole place screams "skeezy used car dealer".


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I think that's all of them. It kinda takes a certain breed of "dealer" to choose to sell cheap, knock-off Chinese powersports anyhow. It's like trying to find a "reputable" drug dealer in certain parts of Detroit or Chicago.

I haven't seen a Chinese powersports dealer website that was any good. Some, won't even let you browse the models that they proclaim to sell. You have to call or email them only.

I think the biggest issue with Q9 right now is that they are giving dates and approximate time-frames with no clue if they are accurate or not. I wish they'd just say "We don't know".

[f15sim]

I'm done. I cancelled the order and placed a new one with Amazon for a Hawk DLX 250 EFI.


While I knew it was a "pre-order" when I placed it, I'd made the (erroneous) assumption that like other product orders I'd made from other companies, their estimate of "Early June" was based in the same reality that I live in.


My hope was that I'd have a learning platform to work with in order to bring up my skill enough that I wouldn't fail the riding test again. Hindsight being 20/20 and all that, I should have ordered from Amazon to begin with, even though it was basically $1k more. Now I'm basically ****ed and won't have any practice opportunities prior to my retest date.


I made it quite clear in my email that I thought they had absolutely no idea when they would see product from Tao Tao.


I ended up emailing them to cancel because I couldn't get anyone to answer the damn phone. I suspect they're all cowering under their desks by now. Jerks.




Ok, whine done. Thanks guys.


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[dgl57]

I have been working with a local dealer on a few Kymco K-Pipe simple parts and emailing Kymco USA. They don't seem to know when anything is arriving. Plus, the dealer said they are having trouble with Yamaha parts and their shipment of Ducati parts has been sitting in a California container for about a month now. Said they have many angry customers. Seems everything is messed up right now.

[KHnTX]

I asked Q9 this morning if they could guarantee my order would ship by 7/10 and if not then I wanted to cancel my order. This would put them at the end of the time frame they originally gave me for order fulfillment from their incoming shipment.

They replied back they could not and have refunded my money. Oh well. Will just have to keep my eye out for a used bike or for some dealer to get something in stock.

[Deckard_Cain]

Originally Posted by KHnTX

I asked Q9 this morning if they could guarantee my order would ship by 7/10 and if not then I wanted to cancel my order. This would put them at the end of the time frame they originally gave me for order fulfillment from their incoming shipment.

They replied back they could not and have refunded my money. Oh well. Will just have to keep my eye out for a used bike or for some dealer to get something in stock.

That's unfortunate, but at least you were promptly refunded. I asked a big dealer here in MI and they told me they were "expecting shipments in the following weeks". I don't have any orders in with them, but used that as a gauge as to when any machines may be reaching dealers.

At this point, I'm hoping to have my Hellcat from Q9 by end of this month, maybe end of first week of August.

After that point, I'll be where the rest of you guys are in terms of frustration and pissed off-edness.

[f15sim]

Update - they did promptly refund the order, so there's that I guess.


I've got a Hawk DLX EFI coming from Amazon - already been shipped.


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[crabjoe]

LOL.. Bwahahahahaha!! Q9 sent me a request for review.. for products they haven't even shipped since I ordered back in early May!

[crabjoe]

I don't know who GVS Brands are (looks to be Canadian), but today at 1500 hours, they're suppose to get 3 containers of ATVs from TaoTao.. They landed in Vancouver, BC, not in Washington State. as the info below shows. Got my fingers crossed hoping US shipments start arriving soon.




Date
2020-06-30
Shipper Name
Zhejiang Taotao Vehicles Co.,Ltd
Shipper Address
NO 6 XINMIN RD XINBI ST JINYUN COUNTY LISHUI CHINA
Consignee Name
Gva Brand
Consignee Address
11400 TWIGG PLACE UNIT 1 RICHMOND, BC V6V 3C1
Weight
38953
Weight Unit
K
Weight in KG
38953.0
Quantity
321
Quantity Unit
PKG
Measure
2
Measure Unit
X
Shipment Origin
China
Details
38,953.0 kg
From port: Ningbo, China
To port: Port of Tacoma, Tacoma, Washington
Place of Receipt
Ningbo
Foreign Port of Lading
Ningbo, China
U.S. Port of Unlading
Port of Tacoma, Tacoma, Washington
U.S. Destination Port
Port of Tacoma, Tacoma, Washington
Commodity
ATV ATV ATV
Container
HLBU3243267
HLBU3243288
UETU5903752
Marks Description
AS PER TSL AS PER TSL AS PER TSL
Carrier Name
TRANS SERVICE LINE
Vessel Name
MOL PARADISE
Voyage Number
311E
Bill of Lading Number
TSVCCNNGB576833
Master Bill of Lading Number
HLCUNG12006AWTH6

[dgl57]

Maybe they are shipping direct to Canada then trucking to US to somehow avoid tariffs.

[crabjoe]

Originally Posted by dgl57

Maybe they are shipping direct to Canada then trucking to US to somehow avoid tariffs.

I doubt it, but I wish it were true in someway.

Consignee Name
Gva Brand
Consignee Address
11400 TWIGG PLACE UNIT 1 RICHMOND, BC V6V 3C1

I looked them up and in their Linkin profile it says "Founded in 2001, GVA Brands is one Canada's largest independent power sport distributors. "

I also looked at their site and they need as many ATV as they can get. They're showing all their inventory as sold out. They sell under the GIO brand.

There was another container of ATVs, on the same ship from Tao, that is going to another company in Canada.. It's going to some company called "PEAVEY INDUSTRIES LTD." When I googled them, it seems like they sell anything and everything under the Sun.

[dgl57]

I have a Hellcat on order with Q9 as well. They told me a couple days ago that Tao is now back in full production as far as they know and it's just a matter of getting bikes produced and getting them here. Said they have pre-orders for about 60 of just the Hellcats and the container holds 80. Hope Tao is not skimping on what quality control they do have just to get them out the door fast.

[Ina Ditch]

Originally Posted by dgl57

I have a Hellcat on order with Q9 as well. They told me a couple days ago that Tao is now back in full production as far as they know and it's just a matter of getting bikes produced and getting them here. Said they have pre-orders for about 60 of just the Hellcats and the container holds 80. Hope Tao is not skimping on what quality control they do have just to get them out the door fast.

I've been thinking that since stock dried up but didn't want to say it out loud.

[crabjoe]

Originally Posted by dgl57

I have a Hellcat on order with Q9 as well. They told me a couple days ago that Tao is now back in full production as far as they know and it's just a matter of getting bikes produced and getting them here. Said they have pre-orders for about 60 of just the Hellcats and the container holds 80. Hope Tao is not skimping on what quality control they do have just to get them out the door fast.

Sorry for my long rant... I'm probably analyzing this way too much but I'm a bit pissed. Mostly because the info they're providing doesn't seem to give any real info as to what's actually happening.

They sent me an email the other day and said all their suppliers were back to full production. I sure hope so since China started reopening manufacturing back in March and supposedly was back in full production in April.

Here's China's Manufacturing Purchasing Managers Index from investing.com (https://www.investing.com/economic-c...turing-pmi-594). As you can see, China's overall manufacturing only really dropped in Feb because of Covid. Anything over 50 is growth, below 50 is shrinkage.



Problem with what they said is that it isn't giving me any confidence as to when to expect shipment. It's really no better then the "approx 2 weeks", they've been telling me, then missing it.

My order was placed back in the 1st week of May based on what they told me. Which was that they were expecting stock by the middle of May to send out. When the mid May came, they pushed it back to the end of May, and so on and so on. It's now July.

I know I can cancel my order, but there's no point in doing such, since no one else has them in stock now. Fact is, it might be worst for me. Reordering from someone else just puts me in the back of the line of this wait game.

I do understand that they're in a hard position. I can't imagine what it would be like now to own a small business and trying to keep it afloat with what's going on.. But come on.. give us some real info, not just something to get us off the phone for a couple weeks.

[Bruces]

My guess is GVA brands is Gio bikes ,sometimes Giovanni bikes ,they have been eBay sellers forever then started there own auction site flashlight boy is a dealer for them .