2023 Venom SS3 mini

[PastorCzo]

Originally Posted by herbie

I still have the $100 discount code from Venom if you wanted to get a Ss3, I’d be happy to give it to you Pastor. Thanks for the encouragement, I think I needed that, had kind of a rough day yesterday.

I cannot justify the purchase right now...adulting sucks

[herbie]

I completed understand, if I had my way I’d have a garage full of bikes
Unfortunately too many other things take precedence

[herbie]

[TominMO]

Nice video, thanx.

[PastorCzo]

Originally Posted by herbie

I honestly cannot stop watching your videos. You should be more popular than wammy boob

[herbie]

Thank you Tom and Pastor, I appreciate that!

[herbie]

[TominMO]

Herbie, I noticed on your website that you have about 8 or 9 vids on the KP Mini. How about a playlist for them?

[herbie]

Good Idea Tom, Thank You
Here it is for anyone interested

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...bQcTIc83p2KBlQ

[culcune]

The most recent edition of the EPA/DOT certification list for street-legal motorcycles in the US was released in May, and it (still--I think I posted this information on a separate thread) shows a 2024 Lifan KPMini S as being 50 state legal and the bike will have SFI rather than a carb. It lists the engine size as being 149.0 rather than the upgraded SS3's (upgraded from the original KPMini) 149.2cc engine. The transmission will still be a 5-speed.

[herbie]

Fuel injection would be a definite plus and I prefer efi anymore. But sometimes there is just something nostalgic about carburetors. Once you get them tuned right they run pretty flawlessly unless of course you live in an area that has nothing but ethanol gas and you leave your bike sit too long

[McQueen216]

Originally Posted by JerryHawk250

I would say yes. The KP 150 has more HP.

The Papio is EFI and a six speed. But… it claims 9.4 hp @ 8,500 rpm.

The KP150 claims 12.2hp/8000 RPM.

Do you need EFI? That 6th gear?

[culcune]

Originally Posted by McQueen216

The Papio is EFI and a six speed. But… it claims 9.4 hp @ 8,500 rpm.

The KP150 claims 12.2hp/8000 RPM.

Do you need EFI? That 6th gear?

I am guessing that Lifan wanted the potentially lucrative California market for this bike. Ironically, when it was first introduced a few years ago, there seemed to be a batch of the bikes that were CARB certified for California. Then, they became 49-state legal with Californians not needing to apply (anymore). Fuel injection was probably able to push it over that last 'hump' for California's sacred CARB blessing. I know there is a fledgling mini-racing scene in the so-called Inland Empire just outside of L.A. and I could see this bike being very competitive now that it is legal again there. When these were first being introduced, there was a press release from Lifan in China showing them in full racing trim with slick tires and no street-legal equipment and I had always thought that American Lifan should promote a one make KPMini budget racing league of sorts.

As far as a 6th...why not, but I doubt it would be a deal-breaker for most without it (it wouldn't be a deal-breaker for me by any means).

[TominMO]

My 2024 SS3 wish list:
6th gear
175 or 200cc
EFI

If they did only two of the above, I totally could not help myself, I would have to have one.

[JerryHawk250]

Originally Posted by TominMO

My 2024 SS3 wish list:
6th gear
175 or 200cc
EFI

If they did only two of the above, I totally could not help myself, I would have to have one.

Well the 2024 will have EFI. That's one wish to take off the list.