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Discoveror · 11-18-2023, 07:46 PM

In what condition are current Templar X shipping containers arriving?

Earlier, it looked like some R&L shipping employees were fond of damaging the shipping containers. Has that been rectified?

Does Amazon use a different shipper for XPro fulfillment than R&L shipping? ... or are Amazon orders drop-shipped from XPro, using R&L shipping, as usual/before?

Williston · 11-18-2023, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Discoveror

In what condition are current Templar X shipping containers arriving?

Earlier, it looked like some R&L shipping employees were fond of damaging the shipping containers. Has that been rectified?

Does Amazon use a different shipper for XPro fulfillment than R&L shipping? ... or are Amazon orders drop-shipped from XPro, using R&L shipping, as usual/before?

FWIW, mine was shipped by R&L the last week of Aug of this year, ordered on a Sunday and was delivered the next Friday with out issue or shipping damage, Texas to NY

Mikd · 11-19-2023, 09:24 AM

Mine made it from TX to NY as well without damage. It was R&L. This was last June.

Discoveror · 11-21-2023, 01:43 PM

Approximately how many rpm is the Templar X turning at 60 mph, using stock/oem sprockets? ... maybe 30 mph (in top gear), if it won't get to 60 mph on the stock/oem sprockets.

What is the Templar X front/rear suspension travel? ... maybe just measure the chrome portion of the forks?

Thanks in advance ...

Mikd · 11-29-2023, 01:58 PM

60mph is roughly 6500rpm and the bike tops out at about 73 with stock gearing. It will cruise happily at 60 but anything more and it's screaming. Suspension travel seems to be about 11.5 inches measuring to the dust ring on the tubes.

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Originally Posted by Discoveror

Approximately how many rpm is the Templar X turning at 60 mph, using stock/oem sprockets? ... maybe 30 mph (in top gear), if it won't get to 60 mph on the stock/oem sprockets.

What is the Templar X front/rear suspension travel? ... maybe just measure the chrome portion of the forks?

Thanks in advance ...

Discoveror · 11-29-2023, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikd

60mph is roughly 6500rpm and the bike tops out at about 73 with stock gearing. It will cruise happily at 60 but anything more and it's screaming. Suspension travel seems to be about 11.5 inches measuring to the dust ring on the tubes.

Thanks - for taking the time to provide that, MikD; it provides insight into the bike design/purpose.

I've noticed that many trail/dirt bikes seem to be geared for about +/- 8,000 rpm @ 60 mph ... whereas dual-sports seem closer to +/- 6,000 rpm @ 60 mph.

11.5 inches suspension travel seem more like a trail/dirt bike; the popular dual-sports seem to offer ~7 - 10 inches.

Your measurements suggest something of a dual-sport/trail hybrid; interesting ...

GypsyR · 11-30-2023, 10:11 AM

I take mine as being an enduro with some street-legal stuff tacked onto it.

K'hermiit · 12-01-2023, 06:03 AM

My 2023 Templar X has 13/49 gears and 50 mph has it screaming along @ ~8.5-9k RPM.
I have a 40T rear to try, but I am on the dirt 90% of the time,so haven't done it yet.

Thumper · 12-19-2023, 05:26 AM

Has anyone tried the Leaping Knight 9 degree adjustable advance DC CDI unit. It is DC type CDI and probably works on the 6 speed Templar X.

I have an AC type CDI unit on my 5 speed, and the Naraku unit with the tiny flathead adjuster works great, but I don't know how advanced it is (continuous adjustment).

Either of these might work on your bike. You can check/verify which type your bike has. It's described in the Templar resource guide on post #9. If you get 12V power at the box when you turn the ignition to on position, you have a DC CDI.

rithac · 12-19-2023, 03:16 PM

I had 2 templar 250 X delivered via R&L from Powersportsmax in mid Nov 2023. They both arrived in pretty great shape both connected to the same pallet. The wooden pallet they arrived on was pretty trashed but mostly intact and I was pleased to find no damage issues to speak of with the crates they were packaged in or with the bikes themselves but they only shipped from a warehouse in Texas to my location in Central Arkansas.
You can see a few pictures of the crate condition here: https://www.chinariders.net/showthre...810#post402810

Mikd · 12-21-2023, 10:39 PM

So I recently switched to an o-ring chain, it certainly felt heavier than the stock chain. The bike seems slower, guessing the heavier chain is robbing some of those limited horses.

XLsior · 12-21-2023, 11:02 PM

O'ring chain will rob power compare to standard link...but it should break in after awhile.

If top speed is important probably not worth it over the maintenance savings.

Mikd · 12-22-2023, 06:34 AM

I'm going to look for a decent quality non o-ring and save this one as a backup. Just too much power loss and yes top speed was off dramatically (65-66 vs 73).

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Originally Posted by XLsior

O'ring chain will rob power compare to standard link...but it should break in after awhile.

If top speed is important probably not worth it over the maintenance savings.

Thumper · 12-22-2023, 09:08 AM

I use a non-o ring chain. There is lots of friction in flexing an o ring chain. And standard chains are not expensive anyway. 20 hp isn't much. I need as much as I can transfer to the rear wheel!

buzz · 12-23-2023, 05:38 PM

I totally agree with Thumper,no o ring chain for me. Cheap bike cheap chain,makes since for me.

11-18-2023, 07:46 PM	#1501
Discoveror Join Date: Nov 2022 Location: Wyoming Posts: 87	current shipping conditions? In what condition are current Templar X shipping containers arriving? Earlier, it looked like some R&L shipping employees were fond of damaging the shipping containers. Has that been rectified? Does Amazon use a different shipper for XPro fulfillment than R&L shipping? ... or are Amazon orders drop-shipped from XPro, using R&L shipping, as usual/before?
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11-19-2023, 09:24 AM	#1503
Mikd Join Date: May 2023 Location: NY Posts: 118	Mine made it from TX to NY as well without damage. It was R&L. This was last June. __________________ Templar X Vitacci Clash 200 Beta 300rr GasGas TXT 125
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11-21-2023, 01:43 PM	#1504
Discoveror Join Date: Nov 2022 Location: Wyoming Posts: 87	??? Templar X specifications ??? Approximately how many rpm is the Templar X turning at 60 mph, using stock/oem sprockets? ... maybe 30 mph (in top gear), if it won't get to 60 mph on the stock/oem sprockets. What is the Templar X front/rear suspension travel? ... maybe just measure the chrome portion of the forks? Thanks in advance ...
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12-19-2023, 05:26 AM	#1509
Thumper Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Kansas City Posts: 2,237	Adjustable advance CDI -DC or AC type Has anyone tried the Leaping Knight 9 degree adjustable advance DC CDI unit. It is DC type CDI and probably works on the 6 speed Templar X. I have an AC type CDI unit on my 5 speed, and the Naraku unit with the tiny flathead adjuster works great, but I don't know how advanced it is (continuous adjustment). Either of these might work on your bike. You can check/verify which type your bike has. It's described in the Templar resource guide on post #9. If you get 12V power at the box when you turn the ignition to on position, you have a DC CDI. __________________ -2022 5 speed Templar X Orange, OEM 51T rear sprocket, 14T front sprocket -NOS 2020 KTM 250SX (2-stroke motocross), less than 10 hours on it Last edited by Thumper; 12-19-2023 at 06:45 AM.
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12-21-2023, 10:39 PM	#1511
Mikd Join Date: May 2023 Location: NY Posts: 118	So I recently switched to an o-ring chain, it certainly felt heavier than the stock chain. The bike seems slower, guessing the heavier chain is robbing some of those limited horses. __________________ Templar X Vitacci Clash 200 Beta 300rr GasGas TXT 125
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11-30-2023, 10:11 AM	#1507
GypsyR Join Date: Feb 2023 Location: Upstate SC Posts: 269	I take mine as being an enduro with some street-legal stuff tacked onto it.
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12-01-2023, 06:03 AM	#1508
K'hermiit Join Date: Nov 2023 Location: Central Arizona Posts: 49	My 2023 Templar X has 13/49 gears and 50 mph has it screaming along @ ~8.5-9k RPM. I have a 40T rear to try, but I am on the dirt 90% of the time,so haven't done it yet.
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12-19-2023, 03:16 PM	#1510
rithac Join Date: Sep 2023 Posts: 33	I had 2 templar 250 X delivered via R&L from Powersportsmax in mid Nov 2023. They both arrived in pretty great shape both connected to the same pallet. The wooden pallet they arrived on was pretty trashed but mostly intact and I was pleased to find no damage issues to speak of with the crates they were packaged in or with the bikes themselves but they only shipped from a warehouse in Texas to my location in Central Arkansas. You can see a few pictures of the crate condition here: https://www.chinariders.net/showthre...810#post402810
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12-21-2023, 11:02 PM	#1512
XLsior Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Australia Posts: 1,278	O'ring chain will rob power compare to standard link...but it should break in after awhile. If top speed is important probably not worth it over the maintenance savings.
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12-22-2023, 09:08 AM	#1514
Thumper Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Kansas City Posts: 2,237	I use a non-o ring chain. There is lots of friction in flexing an o ring chain. And standard chains are not expensive anyway. 20 hp isn't much. I need as much as I can transfer to the rear wheel! __________________ -2022 5 speed Templar X Orange, OEM 51T rear sprocket, 14T front sprocket -NOS 2020 KTM 250SX (2-stroke motocross), less than 10 hours on it
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12-23-2023, 05:38 PM	#1515
buzz Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: Dayton Pa. Posts: 857	I totally agree with Thumper,no o ring chain for me. Cheap bike cheap chain,makes since for me.
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