2017 hawk 250 not 229cc?

ronswanson · 07-13-2017, 11:08 PM

So my father and I both have Hawks... They both say 239cc on the MCO. Was someone drunk while typing up both, did they increase the bore, or am I just stupid and it's been 229cc all along?

Sullybiker · 07-13-2017, 11:31 PM

That's interesting, maybe you got a pair of sleeper Hawks

I'd be surprised if it's not a typo.

ronswanson · 07-13-2017, 11:40 PM

For sale for $13,000. That's not a typo. Custom 2 of a kind from factory (;

I'm just curious how 2 of them got this typo.

Megadan · 07-14-2017, 03:30 AM

3 of a kind, my MCO Said the same thing lol

Rideon · 07-14-2017, 06:53 AM

Mine too.

emptypockets · 07-14-2017, 09:31 AM

Mine says the same thing. I think I can feel the extra power from the 239 engine on the 2017 model.

jimwildman · 07-14-2017, 11:33 AM

Mine says 299cc on the engine sticker, and 229 on the MCO.
Typos or misplaced labels it all happens often on Chinese products.

299cc would be perfect too.

Mudflap · 07-14-2017, 12:14 PM

The only way to know the displacement for sure it to pull the cylinder head and measure it. Even the serial number stamped into the engine case may be incorrect as I found out on the CG engine in my quad. Engine case numbers say 171FMM which would be a 71mm bore 250cc class but it actually measures 63.5mm which makes it 200cc. Correct label would be 163FML. Haven't measured the 167FMM engine bore in my other quad but I suspect it too is 63.5mm.

Weldangrind · 07-14-2017, 01:29 PM

X2 on Mudflap's comments. I've found a couple of engine case typos so far.

ronswanson · 07-14-2017, 08:47 PM

I also noticed my carb is mounted on a rubber boot, on studs, not directly to the engine on bolts as I think I see in motocheezes stuff. I'm curious if they made a few alterations.

Mudflap · 07-14-2017, 08:55 PM

The rubber boot acts as a thermal block so the heat from the cylinder head isn't conducted to the carb which would boil the gas.

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Originally Posted by ronswanson

I also noticed my carb is mounted on a rubber boot, on studs, not directly to the engine on bolts as I think I see in motocheezes stuff. I'm curious if they made a few alterations.

wamey · 07-18-2017, 11:21 AM

To further fuel CC speculation, my buddy just pulled the head on his hawk, manufactured January 2017 according to the paperwork.

Note the "250" on the casting.

Granted, it doesn't mean that the hawk is now 250, but I'll see if I can get him to measure rough bore and stroke while it's off.

Weldangrind · 07-19-2017, 12:21 PM

To be clear, most motorcycle manufacturers round up that far. The SR250 (or Yamaha Exciter) is only 239cc.

BlackBike · 07-19-2017, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Weldangrind

To be clear, most motorcycle manufacturers round up that far. The SR250 (or Yamaha Exciter) is only 239cc.

Oh come on weld, I think that valve indicates 92 octane only

Wamey

measurements...

good to keep them honest

hertz9753 · 07-19-2017, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackBike

Oh come on weld, I think that valve indicates 92 octane only

Wamey

measurements...

good to keep them honest

I think that is item #92 on the hidden menu at a Chinese Dairy Queen...

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wamey Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 96	To further fuel CC speculation, my buddy just pulled the head on his hawk, manufactured January 2017 according to the paperwork. Note the "250" on the casting. Granted, it doesn't mean that the hawk is now 250, but I'll see if I can get him to measure rough bore and stroke while it's off. Last edited by wamey; 07-18-2017 at 11:22 AM. Reason: broken link
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Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	To be clear, most motorcycle manufacturers round up that far. The SR250 (or Yamaha Exciter) is only 239cc. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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07-13-2017, 11:31 PM	#2
Sullybiker Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Western PA Posts: 363	That's interesting, maybe you got a pair of sleeper Hawks I'd be surprised if it's not a typo.
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07-13-2017, 11:40 PM	#3
ronswanson Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Montana Posts: 25	For sale for $13,000. That's not a typo. Custom 2 of a kind from factory (; I'm just curious how 2 of them got this typo.
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07-14-2017, 06:53 AM	#5
Rideon Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Ohio Posts: 26	Mine too.
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07-14-2017, 09:31 AM	#6
emptypockets Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Colorado Posts: 44	Mine says the same thing. I think I can feel the extra power from the 239 engine on the 2017 model.
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07-14-2017, 11:33 AM	#7
jimwildman Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 237	Mine says 299cc on the engine sticker, and 229 on the MCO. Typos or misplaced labels it all happens often on Chinese products. 299cc would be perfect too.
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07-14-2017, 12:14 PM	#8
Mudflap Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 1,870	The only way to know the displacement for sure it to pull the cylinder head and measure it. Even the serial number stamped into the engine case may be incorrect as I found out on the CG engine in my quad. Engine case numbers say 171FMM which would be a 71mm bore 250cc class but it actually measures 63.5mm which makes it 200cc. Correct label would be 163FML. Haven't measured the 167FMM engine bore in my other quad but I suspect it too is 63.5mm.
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07-14-2017, 01:29 PM	#9
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	X2 on Mudflap's comments. I've found a couple of engine case typos so far. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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07-14-2017, 08:47 PM	#10
ronswanson Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Montana Posts: 25	I also noticed my carb is mounted on a rubber boot, on studs, not directly to the engine on bolts as I think I see in motocheezes stuff. I'm curious if they made a few alterations.
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