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Old 12-09-2015, 03:51 PM   #1
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Today I removed the valve cap on the stock shock absorber. Underneath I found a standard schrader valve. I measured the pressure in the shock with my tire gauge, and it read 67.5 psi. The specified press is 44 psi. Perhaps the high pressure contributed to the harsh ride I experienced with this shock absorber.

I lowered the pressure to the standard setting of 44 psi. If the shock is not performing properly for you, you might want to check the air pressure. However, the shock cartridge contains very little air, so it might not make much of a difference.
I would assume that you would want to check it with the wheel off the ground, or does it matter?

How do you access the valve? Do I have to take everything apart? My valve faces the rear. I'm thinking of removing the shock and reinstalling it with the valve facing the front. Will it fit? Will I be able to access it then?

Rebound adjustment and preload: What is a good starting setting? I am a lightweight, 160 lbs w/o gear.
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Old 12-09-2015, 04:44 PM   #2
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I would assume that you would want to check it with the wheel off the ground, or does it matter?

How do you access the valve? Do I have to take everything apart? My valve faces the rear. I'm thinking of removing the shock and reinstalling it with the valve facing the front. Will it fit? Will I be able to access it then?

Rebound adjustment and preload: What is a good starting setting? I am a lightweight, 160 lbs w/o gear.
The following thread describes how you set the shock spring preload.

http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=14677

You might be able to check the air pressure from the top. I can't guarantee a minor difference in air pressure will make any difference in shock performance, but it can't hurt to try. However, adjusting the spring preload will certainly improve the performance of the shock.

The schrader valve of the stock shock absorber is located in the same position as the pressure valve on the Progressive shock absorber.



You must remove the saddle, fuel tank, and a small emissions canister to see the valve from the top.



Remove the valve cap, and you might be able to get a small pressure gauge onto the valve, if you have small hands. Lift the rear wheel to get the weight off the shock before you measure the pressure.

If you cannot access the pressure valve from the top, I wouldn't worry about it. I'm beginning to doubt a small difference in air pressure will have much effect on the performance of the stock shock absorber.
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Old 12-09-2015, 08:44 PM   #3
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With my understanding of suspension wich is some what limited but with a good ME guess; I don't think chages in air pressure will make any noticeable pre-load difference. These are not air spring shocks like in many mountain bikes. The air pressure is there to minamaize oil foaming while working the shock hard. So the pressure is in the oil damping circuit and thus acts equally on the top and bottom of the internal piston and valving.


 
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Old 12-09-2015, 09:59 PM   #4
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With my understanding of suspension wich is some what limited but with a good ME guess; I don't think chages in air pressure will make any noticeable pre-load difference. These are not air spring shocks like in many mountain bikes. The air pressure is there to minamaize oil foaming while working the shock hard. So the pressure is in the oil damping circuit and thus acts equally on the top and bottom of the internal piston and valving.
I'm sure you are correct. There is very little air in the cartridge.
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Old 12-09-2015, 11:05 PM   #5
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Spud, would it be possible to attach a flexible extension on the valve and then zip tie it to an accessible location?
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Rebound adjustment and preload: What is a good starting setting? I am a lightweight, 160 lbs w/o gear.
Ideas?
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Old 12-10-2015, 02:47 AM   #7
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Ideas?
If you read the thread at the link I posted earlier, I believe you will find some suggestions therein. However, the best way to adjust the spring preload is to set the race sag properly, and this can vary slightly with tire selection, equipment installed, loaded weight, et cetera.
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