Zongshen 200GY-2: Custom, 18-inch Rear Wheel - Page 2

katoranger · 03-16-2010, 07:53 AM

I believe a 50cc is in order.

showgun · 03-16-2010, 08:46 AM

Well this will be our third, all girls! We are just praying we make it to 40 weeks without complications. Our last child (now 2) was born extremely early and weighed 3 pounds, She spent the first month in an incubator.

I agree, this x-mas my oldest might get a 50. Here is a picture of her at our last 3-D archery shoot.

[img] http://s1040.photobucket.com/albums/...yandherbow.jpg [/img]

Spud, I just realized I might have hi-jacked your thread... Sorry!

FastDoc · 03-16-2010, 11:15 AM

You are a fine father, Shogun. Thanks for sharing.

SpudRider · 03-16-2010, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by showgun

Well this will be our third, all girls! We are just praying we make it to 40 weeks without complications. Our last child (now 2) was born extremely early and weighed 3 pounds, She spent the first month in an incubator.

I agree, this x-mas my oldest might get a 50. Here is a picture of her at our last 3-D archery shoot.

[img] http://s1040.photobucket.com/albums/...yandherbow.jpg [/img]

Spud, I just realized I might have hi-jacked your thread... Sorry!

That's OK, Showgun.

Thank you for sharing the good news with us!

After you take the Zongs for a test ride, please posts lots of photographs!

Spud

showgun · 03-16-2010, 10:58 PM

Well guys I got the bike on the road with the 18" rear and 21" front and the bike handles completely different than before. The new 12 tooth sprocket gives it a bit more boost, I am very pleased with the results. Tomorrow Im going to give it a bath and prep the plastic for paint. Here are a couple photos of the standard zong with new wheels.

The kind compliments are very much appreciated.

MICRider · 03-16-2010, 11:06 PM

I love the Zongs, awesome bikes! Too bad we don't have em here in Canada.
New wheels look great!

SpudRider · 03-16-2010, 11:19 PM

Indeed, the Zong is more agile with the larger wheels.

However, once a Zong owner converts to an 18-inch rear wheel, I think he would definitely benefit from a choice of rear sprockets larger than 46 teeth.

However, the Zong employs a Kawasaki, BN125, Eliminator rear hub, and rear sprocket, and the 46-tooth Zong/Kawasaki rear sprocket is the largest size available. :(

Fortunately, the Zong employs a very nice "cushion drive" on the rear wheel, which allows the rear sprocket to wear very slowly.

Therefore, I think it would be quite cost effective to have someone manufacture a larger, custom, rear sprocket for the Zong.

For example, either a 55T, or a 58T rear sprocket would allow for a much larger choice of front sprockets sizes.

Several companies manufacture custom sprockets. Therefore, I think a custom rear sprocket might be a very good choice for Zong owners who convert to an 18-inch rear wheel.

Spud

Weldangrind · 03-17-2010, 02:03 AM

If you could find a sprocket that has enough material to suit your needs, you could drill and modify it to suit the Zong. The hardest part would be establishing a datum for the bolt circle. I wonder what custom sprockets would cost?

SpudRider · 03-17-2010, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Weldangrind

If you could find a sprocket that has enough material to suit your needs, you could drill and modify it to suit the Zong. The hardest part would be establishing a datum for the bolt circle. I wonder what custom sprockets would cost?

The Zong/Kaw rear sprocket is equivalent to JT Sprocket #JTR468.46.

http://www.jtsprockets.com/52.0.html...el_uid=4903&p=

Spud

SpudRider · 03-19-2010, 04:07 AM

Eureka! I have found it!

In addition to the stock, JTR 468, rear sprocket, the Zong can also employ the JTR 471, rear sprocket, if you do a little trimming.

The only difference between these two sprockets is the smaller diameter of the center hole for the JTR 471, which is 64 mm. Therefore, if you trim some 2mm rectangles, you can also use the JTR 471 sproket.

The largest JRT 468 sprocket has 46 teeth, and I do not recommend anything smaller. However, if you convert to an 18-inch, rear wheel, you will certainly benefit from using a sprocket larger than 46 teeth.

With a 46T rear sprocket, the Zong requires a 12T countershaft sprocket, the smallest available, if you are using an 18-inch, rear wheel. Fortunately, the JTR 471 sprocket is available with 48 teeth, and 50 teeth!

This 50T sprocket is also available as Sunstar sprocket #2-214450.

http://www.jtsprockets.com/61.0.html...rtnr=JTR471,50

Using the 50T rear sprocket, the Zong owner can install a larger, 13T countershaft sprocket, and still keep the same gear ratio.

In addition, the JRT 471, rear sprocket was employed by the Kawasaki, KD125 motorcycle from 1977-1979. Kawasaki also offers this sprocket with 54 teeth (part #42041-147), and 58 teeth (part #42041-148)!

http://www.motogrid.com/pages/parts/...3/default.aspx

Using the 54T rear sprocket from Kawasaki, the Zong owner can install a 14T countershaft sprocket. Using the 58T rear sprocket the Zong owner can install a 15T countershaft sprocket!

Larger countershaft sprockets last longer than smaller ones. In addition, the larger countershaft sprockets are more widely available from a greater number of manufacturers.

http://chinariders.net/modules.php?n...ewtopic&t=7565

Finally, using the larger, JTR 471/KD125 sprocket also affords the Zong owner greater options to gear his bike even lower for trail riding.

Spud

katoranger · 03-19-2010, 03:59 PM

My question has been answered. Good news for the cult of zong.

SpudRider · 03-20-2010, 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katoranger

My question has been answered. Good news for the cult of zong.

Indeed; I hope my fellow Zongites are as pleased as I.

The perceived lack of choices for rear sprockets was, perhaps, one of the last stumbling blocks to acceptance of the Zong as a capable offroad motorcycle.

Spud

lauren94 · 05-22-2012, 07:01 AM

Hello, i know this was posted a long time ago, but i was wondering how much you charge to make/post the rear rims?
i live in australia and i have NOT found a dirt tread tyre to fit my bike ANYWHERE!! everyone is usually like 'whats that???'

i really hope you see this and are able to help me out!!

SpudRider · 05-22-2012, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lauren94

Hello, i know this was posted a long time ago, but i was wondering how much you charge to make/post the rear rims?
i live in australia and i have NOT found a dirt tread tyre to fit my bike ANYWHERE!! everyone is usually like 'whats that???'

i really hope you see this and are able to help me out!!

I currently charge $55 to lace and true an 18-inch rim to a Zongshen hub. However, one also needs to buy an 18-inch rim, and custom spokes. In addition, one needs to pay shipping costs to send me the Zongshen hub, and receive the completed wheel.

Since you live in Australia, I recommend you buy a knobby tire from Taobao for your Zongshen 200GY-2, or purchase custom spokes and have a local craftsman build the wheel for you.

Here's a link to the 15-inch, knobby tire on the Taobao website.

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=4120688878

You can learn how to purchase items from Taobao by reading the following thread.

http://www.chinariders.com/modules.p...wtopic&t=13810

Spud

gordo · 06-01-2012, 12:22 AM

I have a 2006 qlinks x ranger 200 which has a 15 inch back wheel. I actually got this bike for my girlfriend who likes to ride off road in hopes that she would ride on the street with me, but we cant get a decent tire for it. If I can get someone to build a wheel for it that would be awesome. I was thinking about buying a stock front rim and a rear hub which are both 36 spoke and not very expensive from the factory and having buchanan build one but i'm not sure if the 18 inch front wheel will work with the stock rear hub. Any advice?

03-16-2010, 07:53 AM	#16
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	I believe a 50cc is in order. __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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03-16-2010, 11:15 AM	#18
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	You are a fine father, Shogun. Thanks for sharing. __________________ Happy to serve.
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03-16-2010, 11:19 PM	#22
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	Indeed, the Zong is more agile with the larger wheels. However, once a Zong owner converts to an 18-inch rear wheel, I think he would definitely benefit from a choice of rear sprockets larger than 46 teeth. However, the Zong employs a Kawasaki, BN125, Eliminator rear hub, and rear sprocket, and the 46-tooth Zong/Kawasaki rear sprocket is the largest size available. :( Fortunately, the Zong employs a very nice "cushion drive" on the rear wheel, which allows the rear sprocket to wear very slowly. Therefore, I think it would be quite cost effective to have someone manufacture a larger, custom, rear sprocket for the Zong. For example, either a 55T, or a 58T rear sprocket would allow for a much larger choice of front sprockets sizes. Several companies manufacture custom sprockets. Therefore, I think a custom rear sprocket might be a very good choice for Zong owners who convert to an 18-inch rear wheel. Spud __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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03-17-2010, 02:03 AM	#23
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	If you could find a sprocket that has enough material to suit your needs, you could drill and modify it to suit the Zong. The hardest part would be establishing a datum for the bolt circle. I wonder what custom sprockets would cost? __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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03-19-2010, 04:07 AM	#25
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	Eureka! I have found it! In addition to the stock, JTR 468, rear sprocket, the Zong can also employ the JTR 471, rear sprocket, if you do a little trimming. The only difference between these two sprockets is the smaller diameter of the center hole for the JTR 471, which is 64 mm. Therefore, if you trim some 2mm rectangles, you can also use the JTR 471 sproket. The largest JRT 468 sprocket has 46 teeth, and I do not recommend anything smaller. However, if you convert to an 18-inch, rear wheel, you will certainly benefit from using a sprocket larger than 46 teeth. With a 46T rear sprocket, the Zong requires a 12T countershaft sprocket, the smallest available, if you are using an 18-inch, rear wheel. Fortunately, the JTR 471 sprocket is available with 48 teeth, and 50 teeth! This 50T sprocket is also available as Sunstar sprocket #2-214450. http://www.jtsprockets.com/61.0.html...rtnr=JTR471,50 Using the 50T rear sprocket, the Zong owner can install a larger, 13T countershaft sprocket, and still keep the same gear ratio. In addition, the JRT 471, rear sprocket was employed by the Kawasaki, KD125 motorcycle from 1977-1979. Kawasaki also offers this sprocket with 54 teeth (part #42041-147), and 58 teeth (part #42041-148)! http://www.motogrid.com/pages/parts/...3/default.aspx Using the 54T rear sprocket from Kawasaki, the Zong owner can install a 14T countershaft sprocket. Using the 58T rear sprocket the Zong owner can install a 15T countershaft sprocket! Larger countershaft sprockets last longer than smaller ones. In addition, the larger countershaft sprockets are more widely available from a greater number of manufacturers. http://chinariders.net/modules.php?n...ewtopic&t=7565 Finally, using the larger, JTR 471/KD125 sprocket also affords the Zong owner greater options to gear his bike even lower for trail riding. Spud __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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03-16-2010, 08:46 AM	#17
showgun Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Central Washington Posts: 40	Well this will be our third, all girls! We are just praying we make it to 40 weeks without complications. Our last child (now 2) was born extremely early and weighed 3 pounds, She spent the first month in an incubator. I agree, this x-mas my oldest might get a 50. Here is a picture of her at our last 3-D archery shoot. [img] http://s1040.photobucket.com/albums/...yandherbow.jpg [/img] Spud, I just realized I might have hi-jacked your thread... Sorry!
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03-16-2010, 10:58 PM	#20
showgun Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Central Washington Posts: 40	Well guys I got the bike on the road with the 18" rear and 21" front and the bike handles completely different than before. The new 12 tooth sprocket gives it a bit more boost, I am very pleased with the results. Tomorrow Im going to give it a bath and prep the plastic for paint. Here are a couple photos of the standard zong with new wheels. *The kind compliments are very much appreciated.*
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03-16-2010, 11:06 PM	#21
MICRider Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 3,274	I love the Zongs, awesome bikes! Too bad we don't have em here in Canada. New wheels look great!
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03-19-2010, 03:59 PM	#26
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	My question has been answered. Good news for the cult of zong. __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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05-22-2012, 07:01 AM	#28
lauren94 Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1	Hello, i know this was posted a long time ago, but i was wondering how much you charge to make/post the rear rims? i live in australia and i have NOT found a dirt tread tyre to fit my bike ANYWHERE!! everyone is usually like 'whats that???' i really hope you see this and are able to help me out!!
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06-01-2012, 12:22 AM	#30
gordo Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 4	18 inch wheel!!! I have a 2006 qlinks x ranger 200 which has a 15 inch back wheel. I actually got this bike for my girlfriend who likes to ride off road in hopes that she would ride on the street with me, but we cant get a decent tire for it. If I can get someone to build a wheel for it that would be awesome. I was thinking about buying a stock front rim and a rear hub which are both 36 spoke and not very expensive from the factory and having buchanan build one but i'm not sure if the 18 inch front wheel will work with the stock rear hub. Any advice?
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