72 CT 70 - Should I bite?

Jim · 05-12-2010, 02:50 PM

Found this on craigslist, doesn't run, needs work, $100
http://abbotsford.en.craigslist.ca/mcy/1737388692.html

I always thought these were neat little bikes, could take it on as a project (after the cl350 is done). He's asking $100, but it is non running with no registration and it looks like other then engine work it would need quite a bit of tlc / parts (a seat for example) to get it looking good again. Thoughts?

edit: adding pictures for when CL ad disappears

FastDoc · 05-12-2010, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim

Found this on craigslist, doesn't run, needs work, $100
http://abbotsford.en.craigslist.ca/mcy/1737388692.html

I always thought these were neat little bikes, could take it on as a project (after the cl350 is done). He's asking $100, but it is non running with no registration and it looks like other then engine work it would need quite a bit of tlc / parts (a seat for example) to get it looking good again. Thoughts?

If it could be plated and/or registered I bet a Lifan engine would slip right in there if you couldn't get the Honda motor running. Then you could part out the Honda motor on eBay and the project might pay for itself.

Jim · 05-12-2010, 04:20 PM

That's a good idea... I bet most of the parts are compatible... I should be able to get it plated, it just takes some time doing a title search and involves a notary. I forget how much the whole process costs, maybe $30 plus the notary fee...

FastDoc · 05-12-2010, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim

That's a good idea... I bet most of the parts are compatible... I should be able to get it plated, it just takes some time doing a title search and involves a notary. I forget how much the whole process costs, maybe $30 plus the notary fee...

I'd bite.

katoranger · 05-12-2010, 05:19 PM

Buy it. Those parts bring big money. The lifan engines bolt in too and lots of china knockoffs for the rest of the bike.

Allen

MICRider · 05-12-2010, 08:45 PM

Bar none the best bike I ever had was a 1972 Honda CT70. Though mine was the faster red model

. Still have it at my parents farm and am thinking I might bring it in and restore it for my son. Not sure if I would have it done by the time he graduates though...

phil · 05-12-2010, 11:08 PM

lifan bought the rights to Xerox that bike the lf110 and i have bought ct70 parts for it so yes bite and bite fast and hard

Weldangrind · 05-12-2010, 11:18 PM

I'm guessing by the email address that it's at Mission Motorsports. I wonder why he wouldn't fix it himself? Odd.

Anyway, I noticed that Gio has been selling the 125 pit bike engines at auction instead of buy it now, so they're very cheap these days.

Jump on it! Got a truck, or would you like a hand picking it up?

Jim · 05-13-2010, 12:17 AM

Hey guys, sorry for taking so long getting back to you guys on how things turned out...

I rode my bike over to my parents (old Triumph 3 speed bicycle, I think it's about 16km), and borrowed my dad's truck. Went down and picked it up, I ended up paying $80. Apparently it needs ignition stuff, there is some that is not good but he gave me some spare parts for that too... To be honest I don't know about ignition stuff so it will be a learning process.. The engine turns over and it seems like there is compression, shifting works. It needs a few small parts here and there, and good cleaning up.

MICRider, faster red model

maybe I can make an upgrade :P

Phil, I wasn't aware of that, I knew Lifan had pretty much identical bikes, but I didn't know they had the rights, interesting stuff, thanks.

Derryk, you are correct, it was at mission motorsports... I've never heard of them before, I was also wondering why he wouldn't fix it himself but it sounds like he just isn't interested? He said he bought it site unseen for $100 and it was in worse shape then he figured, so he just wanted to get his money out of it. It didn't really look that bad to me, unless the motor is completely hooped, but then the gio auctions you mention sounds like a good alternative... I looked at the gio auction for one of those motors, the worst part is the $45 shipping since they don't allow local pickup. Also, thank you very much for the kind offer to help me pick it up

Unfortunately it's just gone into the barn at my parents place for now, hopefully it won't be too long, but I've got to get done with the cl350 that I've been dragging my heels on. I'm going to be painting the frame and various pieces very soon then it should start going back together.

Thanks again everyone, I'll keep you posted as I progress with this little bike.

Going to do some searching for a shop manual.

Judging by http://www.hondatrail70.com/ct70id.htm it is a CT70K1 Trail 70.

AZ200cc · 05-13-2010, 01:49 AM

You just made money jim, Parting it out will bring You a good profit. Fixed will also.

Weldangrind · 05-13-2010, 02:06 AM

Cool! Can't wait to see it.

One of the benefits to the 125 is the CDI ignition. Your troubles will be over if you go that route.

I've got the flywheel puller in stock if you need it.

SpudRider · 05-13-2010, 04:47 AM

Nice find, Jim.

Please post some photos as you restore the bike!

Spud

Cal25 · 05-13-2010, 08:59 AM

I would look into a new 125 to put into it. No points to deal with and lots more power too. I look forward to seeing this project develop!!

FastDoc · 05-13-2010, 11:39 AM

That little guy would boogie with a 125!

Jim · 05-14-2010, 12:48 AM

Here's a bit bigger picture... Still not much to look at though.

I've removed all that ratty tape from the seat, but the cover, the foam, and the pan are all junk anyways.

I may tinker here and there, but it should be mostly off to the side until the 350 is done.

05-12-2010, 02:50 PM	#1
Jim Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada Posts: 4,880	72 CT 70 - Should I bite? Found this on craigslist, doesn't run, needs work, $100 http://abbotsford.en.craigslist.ca/mcy/1737388692.html I always thought these were neat little bikes, could take it on as a project (after the cl350 is done). He's asking $100, but it is non running with no registration and it looks like other then engine work it would need quite a bit of tlc / parts (a seat for example) to get it looking good again. Thoughts? edit: adding pictures for when CL ad disappears __________________ "Be excellent to each other" "We are all human. Let's start to prove it!"
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05-12-2010, 04:20 PM	#3
Jim Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada Posts: 4,880	That's a good idea... I bet most of the parts are compatible... I should be able to get it plated, it just takes some time doing a title search and involves a notary. I forget how much the whole process costs, maybe $30 plus the notary fee... __________________ "Be excellent to each other" "We are all human. Let's start to prove it!"
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05-12-2010, 05:19 PM	#5
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	Buy it. Those parts bring big money. The lifan engines bolt in too and lots of china knockoffs for the rest of the bike. Allen __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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05-12-2010, 11:08 PM	#7
phil Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: wise va Posts: 636	lifan bought the rights to Xerox that bike the lf110 and i have bought ct70 parts for it so yes bite and bite fast and hard __________________ halls auto l coolster, modcycles, yanmar & zongshen, dealer fired roketa,lifan and jet moto and apollo quit me who's next
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05-12-2010, 11:18 PM	#8
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	I'm guessing by the email address that it's at Mission Motorsports. I wonder why he wouldn't fix it himself? Odd. Anyway, I noticed that Gio has been selling the 125 pit bike engines at auction instead of buy it now, so they're very cheap these days. Jump on it! Got a truck, or would you like a hand picking it up? __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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05-12-2010, 08:45 PM	#6
MICRider Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 3,274	Bar none the best bike I ever had was a 1972 Honda CT70. Though mine was the faster red model . Still have it at my parents farm and am thinking I might bring it in and restore it for my son. Not sure if I would have it done by the time he graduates though...
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05-13-2010, 12:17 AM	#9
Jim Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada Posts: 4,880	Hey guys, sorry for taking so long getting back to you guys on how things turned out... I rode my bike over to my parents (old Triumph 3 speed bicycle, I think it's about 16km), and borrowed my dad's truck. Went down and picked it up, I ended up paying $80. Apparently it needs ignition stuff, there is some that is not good but he gave me some spare parts for that too... To be honest I don't know about ignition stuff so it will be a learning process.. The engine turns over and it seems like there is compression, shifting works. It needs a few small parts here and there, and good cleaning up. MICRider, faster red model maybe I can make an upgrade :P Phil, I wasn't aware of that, I knew Lifan had pretty much identical bikes, but I didn't know they had the rights, interesting stuff, thanks. Derryk, you are correct, it was at mission motorsports... I've never heard of them before, I was also wondering why he wouldn't fix it himself but it sounds like he just isn't interested? He said he bought it site unseen for $100 and it was in worse shape then he figured, so he just wanted to get his money out of it. It didn't really look that bad to me, unless the motor is completely hooped, but then the gio auctions you mention sounds like a good alternative... I looked at the gio auction for one of those motors, the worst part is the $45 shipping since they don't allow local pickup. Also, thank you very much for the kind offer to help me pick it up Unfortunately it's just gone into the barn at my parents place for now, hopefully it won't be too long, but I've got to get done with the cl350 that I've been dragging my heels on. I'm going to be painting the frame and various pieces very soon then it should start going back together. Thanks again everyone, I'll keep you posted as I progress with this little bike. Going to do some searching for a shop manual. Judging by http://www.hondatrail70.com/ct70id.htm it is a CT70K1 Trail 70. __________________ "Be excellent to each other" "We are all human. Let's start to prove it!"
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05-13-2010, 01:49 AM	#10
AZ200cc Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Show Low Arizona Posts: 2,889	You just made money jim, Parting it out will bring You a good profit. Fixed will also. __________________ <br />2001 Suzuki DR200SE<br />1997 Suzuki RM250 YIKES<br />1995 Yamaha Breeze 125 daughters<br />1991 Honda XR80r Restored<br />maybe a 2003 Yamaha TTR90
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05-13-2010, 02:06 AM	#11
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Cool! Can't wait to see it. One of the benefits to the 125 is the CDI ignition. Your troubles will be over if you go that route. I've got the flywheel puller in stock if you need it. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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05-13-2010, 04:47 AM	#12
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	Nice find, Jim. Please post some photos as you restore the bike! Spud __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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05-13-2010, 08:59 AM	#13
Cal25 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Terrell and Grapevine Tx. Posts: 1,585	I would look into a new 125 to put into it. No points to deal with and lots more power too. I look forward to seeing this project develop!!
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05-13-2010, 11:39 AM	#14
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	That little guy would boogie with a 125! __________________ Happy to serve.
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05-14-2010, 12:48 AM	#15
Jim Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada Posts: 4,880	Here's a bit bigger picture... Still not much to look at though. I've removed all that ratty tape from the seat, but the cover, the foam, and the pan are all junk anyways. I may tinker here and there, but it should be mostly off to the side until the 350 is done. __________________ "Be excellent to each other" "We are all human. Let's start to prove it!"
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