Hello from Cochabamba, Bolivia - Page 2

Oengus · 11-24-2010, 07:03 PM

Kyngo is not a manufacturer they are a trading company, they sell bikes that are a collection of many manufacturers and they then sell them collectively under on brand name.

www.kyngo.com

The Kyngo bikes your looking at in Bolivia are coming through Chile.

humanbeing · 11-24-2010, 07:37 PM

Who builds Kyngo is still mystery. The "net" shows it's supplied by a trading company in Zhejiang only.
WMI will solve the puzzle: http://www.catarc.org.cn/vin/WMIVIN.htm :?

That bike is doemstic Honda Rebel "CA250" clone :o http://www.honda.co.jp/news/1994/2940128.html
Clymer manual covers ALL the basics u need to know.

Weldangrind · 11-25-2010, 12:44 AM

UncleDarrell, is there any opportunity for a motorcycle safety course? It's money well spent.

SpudRider · 11-25-2010, 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind

UncleDarrell, is there any opportunity for a motorcycle safety course? It's money well spent.

X2! Learning the physical skills involved with riding a motorcycle is very important; however, learning the mental strategies needed to ride safely is equally important.

You will never regret taking a good, motorcycle rider safety class.

Spud

humanbeing · 11-25-2010, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind

UncleDarrell, is there any opportunity for a motorcycle safety course?
Spud

In a coutury NEVER driven a m/c & got the endorsement :? ie NO test/ No course
Materials/ advice from riders here is more important !!!

Oengus · 11-25-2010, 12:04 PM

I would say you should be ok with Kyngo Darrell, they have Chain Rail managed services involved in their operations and that could be why they have a good reputation. Chain Rail is a Taiwan based corporation specializing in operations analysis and process engineering. They set up inspectors in each supply line and monitor the goods coming across. They are behind Qlink in the USA which is considered a better distributors.

Thatâ€™s just my opinion and based off a website, but if your getting positive feedback from locals it may be more about responsiveness and responsibility then anything that make Kyngo better, they have professionals involved.

Oengus · 11-25-2010, 12:13 PM

There may be many Chinese manufacturers but the engines and models are not very different could be called very wide but not very deep. The 250 is actually a 233cc and based on the 1994 Honda Rebel, actually a near exact copy and there are many factories making them, the advantage of managed services is that somebody is checking the production. There are defined methods of quality control that if adhered to on that production line then the results are better assembled bikes. The chains rail group is hands on they are not ordering off the internet they are in the factory supply line and actively monitoring.

UncleDarrell · 11-25-2010, 08:51 PM

I want to thank everyone who has posted information and advice regarding my post here. The bad news is there is no motorcycle safety or learning courses here. The good news is even though I haven't a clue how to ride I am a licensed driver...and...once I have the bike I can take my time and learn the both mechanical and mental functions of bike riding. I have driven a car for 40 years so I know the mentality of the roadways so I just have to adapt to a motorcycle line of thinking. 90% of the bike riders here in Cochabamba are not licensed or their bikes registered. Most but not all are foreign students who don't want the hassle or feel the need to go thru the licensing/registration process. I am retired from the US and am in the first year of my two year temporary residence requirement to be a permenent resident here..so I want to follow and obey all the laws, and being retired I have time to learn to ride safely. I have several friends who ride motorcycles and are willing to help me learn. Today I stopped by my corner dealer and she told me the bikes are in their warehouse..and If I really want to buy they will bring the bike to their shop (space is very limited) the price went up a tad to $1700. I have been shopping for several months and that is a deal from my experience. I said bring the black one and make sure it is the 250-2A and you'll have your money in half an hour! Hopefully in a few days at least I'll have a bike in my garage.

SpudRider · 11-25-2010, 09:21 PM

Darrell,

Congratulations on finding a good price for your new bike.

If you have time after your bike arrives, please do start a new thread in our Street Forum, and post lots of photographs of your new bike! We love photos.

Since you don't have the opportunity to take a rider safety course, I will recommend an excellent book, Proficient Motorcycling, The Ultimate Guide to Riding Well, Second Edition, by David L. Hough. The ISBN number is 978-1-933958-35-4.

http://www.amazon.com/Proficient-Mot...0737825&sr=1-1

You might also consider two other, excellent books written by the same author.

http://www.amazon.com/More-Proficien...ref=pd_sim_b_1
http://www.amazon.com/Street-Strateg...ref=pd_sim_b_6

If you wear good, protective riding gear, ride defensively, and practice the principals contained in these books, you will have a much better chance getting off to a safe start riding your new motorcycle.

Spud

Weldangrind · 11-25-2010, 11:53 PM

Spud's a wise man; defensive riding is the key. You'll likely hear plenty of advice, and here's mine:

Ride for everyone on the road. Complete your shoulder check before carrying out a lane change (you wouldn't believe how many new riders lean into a lane change as they shoulder check - that will only show you what is about to mow you down). Don't stay in position if somebody is tailgating you, because you can stop waaay faster. If you're alone, ride in the left tire track, because even junk cars usually have a left side mirror, but not all cars have a rearview or a right mirror. Don't ride in the center of the lane, because that's where the dripping oil from cars ends up.

I hope that your friends are careful riders. I know a few people who are still goofballs on bikes, even after many years (my Dad tops the list).

Again, welcome to the forum. Have a great time on your new bike.

humanbeing · 11-26-2010, 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpudRider

Darrell,
...Since you don't have the opportunity to take a rider safety course, I will recommend an excellent book...

If living aboard, Amazon.com isn't the 1st choice. The rate from http://www.abebooks.com / http://www.betterworldbooks.com are more reasonable.

SpudRider · 11-26-2010, 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humanbeing

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpudRider

Darrell,
...Since you don't have the opportunity to take a rider safety course, I will recommend an excellent book...

If living aboard, Amazon.com isn't the 1st choice. The rate from http://www.abebooks.com / http://www.betterworldbooks.com are more reasonable.

Thank you, Humanbeing.

By all means, Darrell, choose the most convenient, least expensive vendor for these books. I merely posted links to Amazon.com so you could see the titles, ISBN numbers, book covers, et cetera.

Spud

UncleDarrell · 12-01-2010, 11:35 PM

Gentlemen, thank you for your advice and insight. At 18:15PM on December 1, 2010 became the new owner of a Kyngo KG250-2A. had a choice of colors and I chose the black one. Once I get up and running I'll post some pictures. Thanks again...Darrell

SpudRider · 12-01-2010, 11:51 PM

Congratulations on acquiring your new bike, Darrell.

If you have time, please do start a new thread in the Street Forum, and post lots of photographs of your new bike.

Spud

Lucien · 12-02-2010, 12:17 AM

Welcome Darrell, if you want to upgrade your exhaust, get a Pro-Tork (Brazilian), just check what Jap clone is your bike of. :wink:

11-25-2010, 12:44 AM	#18
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	UncleDarrell, is there any opportunity for a motorcycle safety course? It's money well spent. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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11-25-2010, 09:21 PM	#24
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	Darrell, Congratulations on finding a good price for your new bike. If you have time after your bike arrives, please do start a new thread in our Street Forum, and post lots of photographs of your new bike! We love photos. Since you don't have the opportunity to take a rider safety course, I will recommend an excellent book, Proficient Motorcycling, The Ultimate Guide to Riding Well, Second Edition, by David L. Hough. The ISBN number is 978-1-933958-35-4. http://www.amazon.com/Proficient-Mot...0737825&sr=1-1 You might also consider two other, excellent books written by the same author. http://www.amazon.com/More-Proficien...ref=pd_sim_b_1 http://www.amazon.com/Street-Strateg...ref=pd_sim_b_6 If you wear good, protective riding gear, ride defensively, and practice the principals contained in these books, you will have a much better chance getting off to a safe start riding your new motorcycle. Spud __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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11-25-2010, 11:53 PM	#25
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Spud's a wise man; defensive riding is the key. You'll likely hear plenty of advice, and here's mine: Ride for everyone on the road. Complete your shoulder check before carrying out a lane change (you wouldn't believe how many new riders lean into a lane change as they shoulder check - that will only show you what is about to mow you down). Don't stay in position if somebody is tailgating you, because you can stop waaay faster. If you're alone, ride in the left tire track, because even junk cars usually have a left side mirror, but not all cars have a rearview or a right mirror. Don't ride in the center of the lane, because that's where the dripping oil from cars ends up. I hope that your friends are careful riders. I know a few people who are still goofballs on bikes, even after many years (my Dad tops the list). Again, welcome to the forum. Have a great time on your new bike. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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12-01-2010, 11:51 PM	#29
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	Congratulations on acquiring your new bike, Darrell. If you have time, please do start a new thread in the Street Forum, and post lots of photographs of your new bike. Spud __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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11-24-2010, 07:03 PM	#16
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	Kyngo is not a manufacturer they are a trading company, they sell bikes that are a collection of many manufacturers and they then sell them collectively under on brand name. www.kyngo.com The Kyngo bikes your looking at in Bolivia are coming through Chile.
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11-24-2010, 07:37 PM	#17
humanbeing Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,436	Who builds Kyngo is still mystery. The "net" shows it's supplied by a trading company in Zhejiang only. WMI will solve the puzzle: http://www.catarc.org.cn/vin/WMIVIN.htm :? That bike is doemstic Honda Rebel "CA250" clone :o http://www.honda.co.jp/news/1994/2940128.html Clymer manual covers ALL the basics u need to know.
	0

11-25-2010, 12:04 PM	#21
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	I would say you should be ok with Kyngo Darrell, they have Chain Rail managed services involved in their operations and that could be why they have a good reputation. Chain Rail is a Taiwan based corporation specializing in operations analysis and process engineering. They set up inspectors in each supply line and monitor the goods coming across. They are behind Qlink in the USA which is considered a better distributors. Thatâ€™s just my opinion and based off a website, but if your getting positive feedback from locals it may be more about responsiveness and responsibility then anything that make Kyngo better, they have professionals involved.
	0

11-25-2010, 12:13 PM	#22
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	There may be many Chinese manufacturers but the engines and models are not very different could be called very wide but not very deep. The 250 is actually a 233cc and based on the 1994 Honda Rebel, actually a near exact copy and there are many factories making them, the advantage of managed services is that somebody is checking the production. There are defined methods of quality control that if adhered to on that production line then the results are better assembled bikes. The chains rail group is hands on they are not ordering off the internet they are in the factory supply line and actively monitoring.
	0

11-25-2010, 08:51 PM	#23
UncleDarrell Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Cochabamba, Bolivia Posts: 10	I want to thank everyone who has posted information and advice regarding my post here. The bad news is there is no motorcycle safety or learning courses here. The good news is even though I haven't a clue how to ride I am a licensed driver...and...once I have the bike I can take my time and learn the both mechanical and mental functions of bike riding. I have driven a car for 40 years so I know the mentality of the roadways so I just have to adapt to a motorcycle line of thinking. 90% of the bike riders here in Cochabamba are not licensed or their bikes registered. Most but not all are foreign students who don't want the hassle or feel the need to go thru the licensing/registration process. I am retired from the US and am in the first year of my two year temporary residence requirement to be a permenent resident here..so I want to follow and obey all the laws, and being retired I have time to learn to ride safely. I have several friends who ride motorcycles and are willing to help me learn. Today I stopped by my corner dealer and she told me the bikes are in their warehouse..and If I really want to buy they will bring the bike to their shop (space is very limited) the price went up a tad to $1700. I have been shopping for several months and that is a deal from my experience. I said bring the black one and make sure it is the 250-2A and you'll have your money in half an hour! Hopefully in a few days at least I'll have a bike in my garage.
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12-01-2010, 11:35 PM	#28
UncleDarrell Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Cochabamba, Bolivia Posts: 10	Gentlemen, thank you for your advice and insight. At 18:15PM on December 1, 2010 became the new owner of a Kyngo KG250-2A. had a choice of colors and I chose the black one. Once I get up and running I'll post some pictures. Thanks again...Darrell
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12-02-2010, 12:17 AM	#30
Lucien Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Baja California, Mexico Posts: 76	Welcome Darrell, if you want to upgrade your exhaust, get a Pro-Tork (Brazilian), just check what Jap clone is your bike of. :wink:
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