Hello From Canada eh!

partsdude · 07-29-2008, 12:38 PM

Hello to all form the best coast, the west coast!

Don't know what i'm getting myself into here... Private sale, 07 Saga GY-250, still in the box, picking up this weekend, have to assemble myself. I've spoken to a local wrench who has inspected these bikes in the past and without being too forthcoming, he did give me a few points and tips for assembly. Question number one... WHO BUILDS THESE? WHO IS THE MANUFACTURER? My 2nd question is, is assembly out of the box even worth doing or should I just strip it to the frame and start from scratch? :?: Question 3 - Any BC buyers/riders out there have one on the street? :?: I have the full light package and am planning on streeting this beast but i'm wondering about inspections and insurance woes... :?: Anywho, i'm sure i'll be chatting with a few of ya over the next couple of weeks as I bring this project from box to blacktop :!: Thanks all! 8O

forchetto · 07-29-2008, 01:11 PM

Welcome. There's very little on the net about that bike under that name, does it look like this?, perhaps someone can identify it from the photo. Looks like a mean machine:

partsdude · 07-29-2008, 01:37 PM

http://www.offroadleisureproducts.co...dualsport.html
This is the only pic i've seen so far. Like I said before, the bike is still in the crate, I haven't seen it.

forchetto · 07-29-2008, 01:57 PM

That's the same bike. Even the people that sell it don't give the makers name away...is that shop the only source of service, spares, etc?.

partsdude · 07-29-2008, 02:04 PM

:roll: As far as I know, offroad leisure in Langley is the only supplier around here for this bike. I haven't even been out there yet, but i'm sure i'll be spending some time there in the future... 8O I'm buying this bike privately, and the guy i'm getting it from has never even opened up the crate. He got it on a swap for some work he did for the original owner, whom I have to track down for the original bill of sale... Getting to be quite a hassle... :evil:

Kawazacky · 07-29-2008, 03:09 PM

I've seen them at the local ex-Lifan dealer. They are a slick looking bike. I'm curious as to whether they have the improved suspension linkage, and whether it's a Zongshen-style 229cc engine or a true 250.

partsdude · 07-29-2008, 03:46 PM

Kawazacky, what do you mean by "improved suspension linkage"? What was in need of improvement? Do you think that this bike is a Lifan? I'm so confused by all this, it's like another language...HAHA

Kawazacky · 07-29-2008, 04:45 PM

Most of the earlier Chinese bikes, Lifan included, came with a poorly designed rear suspension linkage that cuts down on shock travel. Some of the newer bikes, supposedly the "Kayak 250," have redesigned this suspension linkage.

Is your bike a Lifan? I doubt it, from the ones I've seen here. But I don't think there's too much difference between any of these machines. I'm sure you can mix and match 95% of the parts.

partsdude · 07-29-2008, 05:16 PM

I don't believe it's a Lifan. The front headlamp plastic looks too different. I guess i'll know more this weekend when I pick it up and "git 'er done!" Actually, i'm thinkin' it's gonna get torn down completely and reassembled with lock washers and locktite. The local wrench here did tell me that the front tire, although marked "DOT" is really NFG... He thinks DOT means something else in Chinese...HA :P I'll swap that out @ the same time I guess...
ANY AND ALL WEST COASTERS, ESPECIALLY ANYONE FROM BC, PLEASE DROP ME A HINT OR 2 ABOUT GETTING THIS THING ON THE BLACKTOP... WE ALL KNOW WHAT ICBC IS LIKE

panamarandy · 07-30-2008, 06:12 PM

welcome.....

IronFist · 07-30-2008, 09:48 PM

Jim, one of the moderators here is from BC. Not the same bike but at least the same province

Give him a PM.

tigertamer · 07-31-2008, 08:25 AM

Good decision to rebuild from ground up. Anyways you'll have mental therapy while you run-down your paper trail. :idea:

Big ol' jug on that thumper.

Keep us up to date bro,
Tigertamer

partsdude · 07-31-2008, 12:10 PM

Obviously everyone with one of these chinabikes has wrenched on them... has anyone run into anything like wierd size tools?
I've got full metric sets (Canada... proudly selling metric hardware since 1976

) but is there any other oddball tools needed/used to tear into these? Pick 'er up tomorrow... guess what i'll be doing this long weekend

!!! (B.C. Day Weekend for those not from B.C.) Got's me an extra day to crank on it!

katoranger · 07-31-2008, 12:12 PM

I have nothing that could not be found at Sears.

Allen

Kawazacky · 07-31-2008, 02:06 PM

A good metric socket set, good metric wrench set, and a grinder....you'll nee dthese.

07-29-2008, 12:38 PM	#1
partsdude Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Surrey, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 158	Hello From Canada eh! Hello to all form the best coast, the west coast! Don't know what i'm getting myself into here... Private sale, 07 Saga GY-250, still in the box, picking up this weekend, have to assemble myself. I've spoken to a local wrench who has inspected these bikes in the past and without being too forthcoming, he did give me a few points and tips for assembly. Question number one... WHO BUILDS THESE? WHO IS THE MANUFACTURER? My 2nd question is, is assembly out of the box even worth doing or should I just strip it to the frame and start from scratch? :?: Question 3 - Any BC buyers/riders out there have one on the street? :?: I have the full light package and am planning on streeting this beast but i'm wondering about inspections and insurance woes... :?: Anywho, i'm sure i'll be chatting with a few of ya over the next couple of weeks as I bring this project from box to blacktop :!: Thanks all! 8O __________________ 1970 CT 70 - 1975 RD350 - 1977 KE100 - 1979 FL250 ODYSSEY - 1999 VSTAR650 CLASSIC - 2001 VSTAR 1100 CLASSIC - 2007 ? SAGA GY250 ?
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07-29-2008, 01:11 PM	#2
forchetto Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Gijon, Asturias,Northern Spain Posts: 396	Saga GY250 Welcome. There's very little on the net about that bike under that name, does it look like this?, perhaps someone can identify it from the photo. Looks like a mean machine: __________________ Jincheng Monkey JC50Q-7 (two of them) Skyteam Dax replica ST110-6 (two of them) Zongshen ZS125-43 Qingqi QM200GY-BA Super Motard Yamaha Virago XV1100 Triumph Bonneville SE Qingqi QM110GY PGO Bug rider 250 Buggy
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07-29-2008, 01:37 PM	#3
partsdude Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Surrey, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 158	http://www.offroadleisureproducts.co...dualsport.html This is the only pic i've seen so far. Like I said before, the bike is still in the crate, I haven't seen it. __________________ 1970 CT 70 - 1975 RD350 - 1977 KE100 - 1979 FL250 ODYSSEY - 1999 VSTAR650 CLASSIC - 2001 VSTAR 1100 CLASSIC - 2007 ? SAGA GY250 ?
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07-29-2008, 01:57 PM	#4
forchetto Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Gijon, Asturias,Northern Spain Posts: 396	That's the same bike. Even the people that sell it don't give the makers name away...is that shop the only source of service, spares, etc?. __________________ Jincheng Monkey JC50Q-7 (two of them) Skyteam Dax replica ST110-6 (two of them) Zongshen ZS125-43 Qingqi QM200GY-BA Super Motard Yamaha Virago XV1100 Triumph Bonneville SE Qingqi QM110GY PGO Bug rider 250 Buggy
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07-29-2008, 02:04 PM	#5
partsdude Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Surrey, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 158	:roll: As far as I know, offroad leisure in Langley is the only supplier around here for this bike. I haven't even been out there yet, but i'm sure i'll be spending some time there in the future... 8O I'm buying this bike privately, and the guy i'm getting it from has never even opened up the crate. He got it on a swap for some work he did for the original owner, whom I have to track down for the original bill of sale... Getting to be quite a hassle... :evil: __________________ 1970 CT 70 - 1975 RD350 - 1977 KE100 - 1979 FL250 ODYSSEY - 1999 VSTAR650 CLASSIC - 2001 VSTAR 1100 CLASSIC - 2007 ? SAGA GY250 ?
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07-29-2008, 03:09 PM	#6
Kawazacky Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Saint John, N.B. Posts: 279	I've seen them at the local ex-Lifan dealer. They are a slick looking bike. I'm curious as to whether they have the improved suspension linkage, and whether it's a Zongshen-style 229cc engine or a true 250.
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07-29-2008, 03:46 PM	#7
partsdude Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Surrey, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 158	Kawazacky, what do you mean by "improved suspension linkage"? What was in need of improvement? Do you think that this bike is a Lifan? I'm so confused by all this, it's like another language...HAHA __________________ 1970 CT 70 - 1975 RD350 - 1977 KE100 - 1979 FL250 ODYSSEY - 1999 VSTAR650 CLASSIC - 2001 VSTAR 1100 CLASSIC - 2007 ? SAGA GY250 ?
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07-29-2008, 04:45 PM	#8
Kawazacky Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Saint John, N.B. Posts: 279	Most of the earlier Chinese bikes, Lifan included, came with a poorly designed rear suspension linkage that cuts down on shock travel. Some of the newer bikes, supposedly the "Kayak 250," have redesigned this suspension linkage. Is your bike a Lifan? I doubt it, from the ones I've seen here. But I don't think there's too much difference between any of these machines. I'm sure you can mix and match 95% of the parts.
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07-29-2008, 05:16 PM	#9
partsdude Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Surrey, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 158	I don't believe it's a Lifan. The front headlamp plastic looks too different. I guess i'll know more this weekend when I pick it up and "git 'er done!" Actually, i'm thinkin' it's gonna get torn down completely and reassembled with lock washers and locktite. The local wrench here did tell me that the front tire, although marked "DOT" is really NFG... He thinks DOT means something else in Chinese...HA :P I'll swap that out @ the same time I guess... ANY AND ALL WEST COASTERS, ESPECIALLY ANYONE FROM BC, PLEASE DROP ME A HINT OR 2 ABOUT GETTING THIS THING ON THE BLACKTOP... WE ALL KNOW WHAT ICBC IS LIKE __________________ 1970 CT 70 - 1975 RD350 - 1977 KE100 - 1979 FL250 ODYSSEY - 1999 VSTAR650 CLASSIC - 2001 VSTAR 1100 CLASSIC - 2007 ? SAGA GY250 ?
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07-30-2008, 06:12 PM	#10
panamarandy Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: panama city, florida Posts: 353	welcome..... __________________ 2007 Tank Vision R-3 2005 Quinqi Scooter
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07-30-2008, 09:48 PM	#11
IronFist Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Toronto Ontario Canada Posts: 2,585	Jim, one of the moderators here is from BC. Not the same bike but at least the same province Give him a PM. __________________ IronFist ___________________________________ The "chain" of command is used for beating spammers. ___________________________________
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07-31-2008, 08:25 AM	#12
tigertamer Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Wheeling, West Virginia Posts: 683	Good decision to rebuild from ground up. Anyways you'll have mental therapy while you run-down your paper trail. :idea: Big ol' jug on that thumper. Keep us up to date bro, Tigertamer __________________ 07 H-D XL883C 06 LF 200GY-5 Yin and Yang CAUTION Obey The Traffic Regulation. Always Wear a Helmet. Don't Ride After Drinking Wine. Before Operation, Read The Owners Manual Carefully.
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07-31-2008, 12:10 PM	#13
partsdude Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Surrey, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 158	Obviously everyone with one of these chinabikes has wrenched on them... has anyone run into anything like wierd size tools? I've got full metric sets (Canada... proudly selling metric hardware since 1976 ) but is there any other oddball tools needed/used to tear into these? Pick 'er up tomorrow... guess what i'll be doing this long weekend !!! (B.C. Day Weekend for those not from B.C.) Got's me an extra day to crank on it! __________________ 1970 CT 70 - 1975 RD350 - 1977 KE100 - 1979 FL250 ODYSSEY - 1999 VSTAR650 CLASSIC - 2001 VSTAR 1100 CLASSIC - 2007 ? SAGA GY250 ?
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07-31-2008, 12:12 PM	#14
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	I have nothing that could not be found at Sears. Allen __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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07-31-2008, 02:06 PM	#15
Kawazacky Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Saint John, N.B. Posts: 279	A good metric socket set, good metric wrench set, and a grinder....you'll nee dthese.
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