Coolster MOUNTOPZ 3050C - Page 2

triprop · 03-20-2024, 06:45 AM

dont know if it will help or not but ive seen some unscrew the spark plug cap and cut a 1/4" off the wire for a fresh connection.

porky133 · 03-20-2024, 08:56 AM

Triprop, the entire harness and all components are new. I don't have spark coming out of the CDI at this point. Going to check from the stator later today and also check the rectifier plug as I've read that they can pull loose and break the ground that the CDI requires. May need to reroute my harness to put less stress on some connections.

dirtbkr188 · 03-20-2024, 02:45 PM

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Going to check from the stator later today...

The easiest way to check for spark from the stator is to:
1. Turn the key OFF
2. Unplug the stator plug from the harness
3. Remove the spark plug
4. Attach the test light clip to the black/red wire connector coming out of the engine
5. "jump" the big starter solenoid terminals with a screwdriver to turn the engine over briefly. Hold the test light probe to an engine bolt at the same time. If the test light lights up, the source coil of the stator is working fine.

porky133 · 03-20-2024, 06:44 PM

Well, today was frustrating. I have been following some other threads about this type of problem and it was suggested that I may have a kill switch/safety switch issue. I checked the Kill Switch pin from the harness side, and sure enough, it's grounded. But I don't have any safety switches. I shorted the only one (front brake) so it's always there. The only other one is the kill switch on the handlebar (new, by the way). I also checked voltage coming in to the CDI from the stator and it reads a measly 12 volts!

How did I go from running good to not sparking on the next run? I'm going to do a detailed check of the stator as per dirtbkr188's suggustion sometime tomorrow.

david3921 · 03-20-2024, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by porky133

Well, today was frustrating. I have been following some other threads about this type of problem and it was suggested that I may have a kill switch/safety switch issue. I checked the Kill Switch pin from the harness side, and sure enough, it's grounded. But I don't have any safety switches. I shorted the only one (front brake) so it's always there. The only other one is the kill switch on the handlebar (new, by the way). I also checked voltage coming in to the CDI from the stator and it reads a measly 12 volts!

How did I go from running good to not sparking on the next run? I'm going to do a detailed check of the stator as per dirtbkr188's suggestion sometime tomorrow.

There should be a safety switch at the rear brake also. It's tied into the brake light. I had trouble starting my smaller 125cc Taotao and found that it was a pinched wire at the rear brake light switch.

porky133 · 03-21-2024, 07:32 AM

I'll look at that also today.

porky133 · 03-21-2024, 02:50 PM

So, reconnected everything, and the start button does not do anything. I hate that the wiring harness and the throttle controls don't match up in wire color, but they worked before! But I didn't need that for the test I was doing. Connect everything, test light tested and put on stator red/black wire, short out the solenoid: engine turns over, no light. I'm going to order another harness kit and change the stator.

porky133 · 03-22-2024, 08:16 PM

So, using info from here I hit it again today. Discovered that because of the mismatched wire colors, I did not connect the start button! I decided to make a drawing of the left hand controls and map it all out. Once that was done I rechecked the stator voltage and was getting 50VAC. Put a plug into the boot and good strong spark. Installed plug and she fired right up! I have an entire new harness on it's way and it's now working! May need another ATV to install it on.

Anyway, putting harness back in and ran out of zip ties. Will try to finish it tomorrow.

porky133 · 03-24-2024, 07:54 PM

Update: wiring harness is in and it runs. Smokes like heck, but it runs. Now to get some lights working. I think I got the brake light figured out, but the head light is killing me. The headlight has four wires, and the harness has two three wire plugs. I searched Amazon, and don't see any three wire headlights. Suggestions?

dirtbkr188 · 03-24-2024, 08:36 PM

The headlight usually uses a white, blue and green wire. White being low beam (I think) blue being high beam (I think) and green for ground.

porky133 · 03-25-2024, 07:07 AM

Yeah, those wires are there, but the headlight has a four pin plug and the new harness has two three pin plugs. I've ordered a new bulb for the headlight as the second filiment doesn't work, then it will be time to redo the plug I think. The plug also has two wires that go off to a small side bulb. It runs off a brown and a green wire that comes out of the same plug. I'm also stopping by Autozone to see if they have the three pin plugs. If not, I'll probably switch it over to barrel connectors and call it a day.

porky133 · 04-01-2024, 09:20 PM

Got the brake lights working with brakes applied, but they don't come on any other time like I think they should. Got my headlight bulbs in and broke the ground connection. Will continue tomorrow. I want to get the lights working if I can, but not gonna keep messing around with it much more.

dirtbkr188 · 04-02-2024, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by porky133

Got the brake lights working with brakes applied, but they don't come on any other time like I think they should.

How many wires coming out of the taillight? One should be power for the brake lights (only when applied), one for a taillight (if there is a dual filament bulb), and a ground wire for both.
If you stop and think about it, the brake lights on your car only come on when you use the brakes, right? The taillights are separate units from the brake lights nowadays, but some motorcycles and trailers still use 1157 dual filament bulbs.

porky133 · 04-03-2024, 08:05 AM

Three wires in the tail light itself. One is Green (GRND) one is a bright all light up (with power applied) the last one starts a sequence of inside out strobing when power is applied. I've connected the ground wire, got the brake switches on the strobing light, was wanting to use the last light as an "always on" tail light.

I've got some connectors arriving today, so I should be able to finish the head light and then I just need to find an "ignition switch on" power source for the tail light and this phase will be done.

My final challenge is to stop it from smokeing so bad when it runs. I'm thinking piston rings, my buddy thinks valve seals.

porky133 · 04-03-2024, 08:36 PM

Got the head light working, had the brakes working like I wanted them to, turns out the battery I just got for it was already down to 6v and would not charge any higher. Anyway, at least the brake light still comes on when brakes are applied. Put the body back on and I'm going to work on something else for a while before deciding what to do about the smoking.

Thanks to all who helped me through this, especially DIRKBKR188!

03-20-2024, 06:45 AM	#16
triprop Join Date: Mar 2024 Posts: 9	dont know if it will help or not but ive seen some unscrew the spark plug cap and cut a 1/4" off the wire for a fresh connection.
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03-20-2024, 08:56 AM	#17
porky133 Join Date: Feb 2024 Location: Jackson, GA Posts: 19	Triprop, the entire harness and all components are new. I don't have spark coming out of the CDI at this point. Going to check from the stator later today and also check the rectifier plug as I've read that they can pull loose and break the ground that the CDI requires. May need to reroute my harness to put less stress on some connections.
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03-20-2024, 06:44 PM	#19
porky133 Join Date: Feb 2024 Location: Jackson, GA Posts: 19	Well, today was frustrating. I have been following some other threads about this type of problem and it was suggested that I may have a kill switch/safety switch issue. I checked the Kill Switch pin from the harness side, and sure enough, it's grounded. But I don't have any safety switches. I shorted the only one (front brake) so it's always there. The only other one is the kill switch on the handlebar (new, by the way). I also checked voltage coming in to the CDI from the stator and it reads a measly 12 volts! How did I go from running good to not sparking on the next run? I'm going to do a detailed check of the stator as per dirtbkr188's suggustion sometime tomorrow.
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03-21-2024, 07:32 AM	#21
porky133 Join Date: Feb 2024 Location: Jackson, GA Posts: 19	I'll look at that also today.
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03-21-2024, 02:50 PM	#22
porky133 Join Date: Feb 2024 Location: Jackson, GA Posts: 19	So, reconnected everything, and the start button does not do anything. I hate that the wiring harness and the throttle controls don't match up in wire color, but they worked before! But I didn't need that for the test I was doing. Connect everything, test light tested and put on stator red/black wire, short out the solenoid: engine turns over, no light. I'm going to order another harness kit and change the stator.
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03-22-2024, 08:16 PM	#23
porky133 Join Date: Feb 2024 Location: Jackson, GA Posts: 19	So, using info from here I hit it again today. Discovered that because of the mismatched wire colors, I did not connect the start button! I decided to make a drawing of the left hand controls and map it all out. Once that was done I rechecked the stator voltage and was getting 50VAC. Put a plug into the boot and good strong spark. Installed plug and she fired right up! I have an entire new harness on it's way and it's now working! May need another ATV to install it on. Anyway, putting harness back in and ran out of zip ties. Will try to finish it tomorrow.
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03-24-2024, 07:54 PM	#24
porky133 Join Date: Feb 2024 Location: Jackson, GA Posts: 19	Update: wiring harness is in and it runs. Smokes like heck, but it runs. Now to get some lights working. I think I got the brake light figured out, but the head light is killing me. The headlight has four wires, and the harness has two three wire plugs. I searched Amazon, and don't see any three wire headlights. Suggestions?
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03-24-2024, 08:36 PM	#25
dirtbkr188 Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 493	The headlight usually uses a white, blue and green wire. White being low beam (I think) blue being high beam (I think) and green for ground.
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03-25-2024, 07:07 AM	#26
porky133 Join Date: Feb 2024 Location: Jackson, GA Posts: 19	Yeah, those wires are there, but the headlight has a four pin plug and the new harness has two three pin plugs. I've ordered a new bulb for the headlight as the second filiment doesn't work, then it will be time to redo the plug I think. The plug also has two wires that go off to a small side bulb. It runs off a brown and a green wire that comes out of the same plug. I'm also stopping by Autozone to see if they have the three pin plugs. If not, I'll probably switch it over to barrel connectors and call it a day.
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04-01-2024, 09:20 PM	#27
porky133 Join Date: Feb 2024 Location: Jackson, GA Posts: 19	Got the brake lights working with brakes applied, but they don't come on any other time like I think they should. Got my headlight bulbs in and broke the ground connection. Will continue tomorrow. I want to get the lights working if I can, but not gonna keep messing around with it much more.
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04-03-2024, 08:05 AM	#29
porky133 Join Date: Feb 2024 Location: Jackson, GA Posts: 19	Three wires in the tail light itself. One is Green (GRND) one is a bright all light up (with power applied) the last one starts a sequence of inside out strobing when power is applied. I've connected the ground wire, got the brake switches on the strobing light, was wanting to use the last light as an "always on" tail light. I've got some connectors arriving today, so I should be able to finish the head light and then I just need to find an "ignition switch on" power source for the tail light and this phase will be done. My final challenge is to stop it from smokeing so bad when it runs. I'm thinking piston rings, my buddy thinks valve seals.
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04-03-2024, 08:36 PM	#30
porky133 Join Date: Feb 2024 Location: Jackson, GA Posts: 19	Got the head light working, had the brakes working like I wanted them to, turns out the battery I just got for it was already down to 6v and would not charge any higher. Anyway, at least the brake light still comes on when brakes are applied. Put the body back on and I'm going to work on something else for a while before deciding what to do about the smoking. Thanks to all who helped me through this, especially DIRKBKR188!
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