Storm burned - Page 3

ChipToothy · 11-27-2021, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by XLsior

the green with ring terminal should be a chassis ground and the yellow black you're holding Im not sure. (maybe rear brake light or something)

but the wires coming out of the relay and connected to the loom are yellow&red and green correct?

all you need then is a heavy gauge wire from the bare relay terminal post to you starter motor insulated terminal post.

Yellow-red and green-red from the relay yes.

Thank you for all the help!

Figuring out what the 3 spark plug wires connect to on the loom is my next task. I know one of the plugs is for a tacometer bit I’m not worried about that one. The other 2 wires were burned up and dangling so I don’t know what they go to.

ChipToothy · 11-27-2021, 08:31 PM

The white wire was the taco meter (rpm). The green and black one I don’t know what they go to.

XLsior · 11-27-2021, 08:45 PM

green wires are ground/earth wires.

Solid black wires should be 12v ignition feed.

where they went i don't know either...

Are you sure its a solid black wire...no other colour?

ChipToothy · 11-27-2021, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XLsior

green wires are ground/earth wires.

Solid black wires should be 12v ignition feed.

where they went i don't know either...

Are you sure its a solid black wire...no other colour?

Solid black and solid green for sure. I assume they ran to whatever the spark plug coil needed to interact with. Whatever that is.

XLsior · 11-28-2021, 01:02 AM

you might want to trace that black wire back to it's source point.

If it is a 12v ignition feed then it would have shorted out on the green earth wire when the key was turned on which would explain its frazzled situation.

ChipToothy · 11-28-2021, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XLsior

you might want to trace that black wire back to it's source point.

If it is a 12v ignition feed then it would have shorted out on the green earth wire when the key was turned on which would explain its frazzled situation.

The black and green are OEM so they’ll go somewhere. I wonder if they were part of the keyless/alarm spaghetti.

ChipToothy · 11-28-2021, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XLsior

you might want to trace that black wire back to it's source point.

If it is a 12v ignition feed then it would have shorted out on the green earth wire when the key was turned on which would explain its frazzled situation.

Ahh, those 3 wires are all burned. The green looks to be the ground for the spark plug coil, the black is the live wire coming out of the spark plug coil and the white was Sambo tach was spliced into. No worries there.

At the back side of the starter is a large green OEM O-ring wire. What does that ground to? The cluster in this photo I’m guessing is the OEM stator wires.

ChipToothy · 11-28-2021, 12:08 PM

Ok thanks for the help. I just found out the hard way that the new stator for the China bikes has to be an 8 pole and not a GY6 6 pole. I’m going to return this kit to Amazon and just bite the big bullet with the OEM kit so that everything will work out with least headaches.

ChipToothy · 02-15-2022, 06:02 PM

Alrighty, my actual Bashan Storm OEM wiring harness showed up and I am just waiting on the OEM rectifier any day now. I have started to piece the electrical back together. Is this solenoid wiring correct or is something missing or backwards?

Also any photos y’all can share of your battery cables, grounds and electric wiring on your Storm would be too helpful. It’s having to be reworked 100% from scratch and if I can just get the motor started and running the rest I believe will fall in to place.

I remember the alarm system being hooked up correctly decided if the bike would start or not. We may have to find a way to ground/live around it because mine is all kinds of fried.

ChipToothy · 02-18-2022, 05:11 PM

Is there anybody out there?

Just nod if you can hear me, is there anyone home?

I rewired the ignition and got the loom hooked up aside from the rectifier which is still in shipping somewhere. I tried to get the starter to crank but not hood happening. I’m guessing these bikes won’t start w/o a rectifier installed?

Or my second guess is the alarm/keyless box on these bikes is causing a problem.

ChipToothy · 02-18-2022, 05:20 PM

I understand 1 of these rings is screwed down with the rectifier but where does the other one go?

pete · 02-18-2022, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ChipToothy

I understand 1 of these rings is screwed down with the rectifier but where does the other one go?

As long as it is making contact with the frame "earthed" you are good to go..

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ChipToothy · 02-18-2022, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by pete

As long as it is making contact with the frame "earthed" you are good to go..

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So they are both ground wires? I was worried the black one was supposed to reach the battery.

zero_dgz · 02-19-2022, 09:03 AM

There's only one negative battery cable terminal on the bike. On most bikes the negative cable is split: one leg of it goes to the negative on the starter motor and the other leg is just bolted to the frame. Modern vehicles including Chinese bikes are "chassis ground," in that the entire frame of the vehicle is literally directly connected to the negative post on the battery and is part of the circuit. Anything that needs to go to ground can just be attached straight to the frame, and sometimes OEM components do just that.

ChipToothy · 02-19-2022, 11:46 AM

A small sign of hope. It’s trying to start!

https://youtube.com/shorts/DZ8Edq6G-tU?feature=share

11-28-2021, 12:08 PM	#38
ChipToothy Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 819	Ok thanks for the help. I just found out the hard way that the new stator for the China bikes has to be an 8 pole and not a GY6 6 pole. I’m going to return this kit to Amazon and just bite the big bullet with the OEM kit so that everything will work out with least headaches. __________________ Bashan Storm: Ebay steel exhaust wrapped, folding shift lever, seat mod, vm26 carb, air pod, dual led scrambler headlamps, windshield mod, led brake/tail light, secondary led brake light (swingarm), Ebay 295mm rear shock, back up CDI (racing unknown), oil cooler, digital gauge cluster,
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02-18-2022, 05:11 PM	#40
ChipToothy Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 819	Is there anybody out there? Just nod if you can hear me, is there anyone home? I rewired the ignition and got the loom hooked up aside from the rectifier which is still in shipping somewhere. I tried to get the starter to crank but not hood happening. I’m guessing these bikes won’t start w/o a rectifier installed? Or my second guess is the alarm/keyless box on these bikes is causing a problem. __________________ Bashan Storm: Ebay steel exhaust wrapped, folding shift lever, seat mod, vm26 carb, air pod, dual led scrambler headlamps, windshield mod, led brake/tail light, secondary led brake light (swingarm), Ebay 295mm rear shock, back up CDI (racing unknown), oil cooler, digital gauge cluster,
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02-19-2022, 11:46 AM	#45
ChipToothy Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 819	A small sign of hope. It’s trying to start! https://youtube.com/shorts/DZ8Edq6G-tU?feature=share __________________ Bashan Storm: Ebay steel exhaust wrapped, folding shift lever, seat mod, vm26 carb, air pod, dual led scrambler headlamps, windshield mod, led brake/tail light, secondary led brake light (swingarm), Ebay 295mm rear shock, back up CDI (racing unknown), oil cooler, digital gauge cluster,
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11-27-2021, 08:45 PM	#33
XLsior Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Australia Posts: 1,256	green wires are ground/earth wires. Solid black wires should be 12v ignition feed. where they went i don't know either... Are you sure its a solid black wire...no other colour?
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11-28-2021, 01:02 AM	#35
XLsior Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Australia Posts: 1,256	you might want to trace that black wire back to it's source point. If it is a 12v ignition feed then it would have shorted out on the green earth wire when the key was turned on which would explain its frazzled situation.
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02-19-2022, 09:03 AM	#44
zero_dgz Join Date: Jan 2020 Posts: 243	There's only one negative battery cable terminal on the bike. On most bikes the negative cable is split: one leg of it goes to the negative on the starter motor and the other leg is just bolted to the frame. Modern vehicles including Chinese bikes are "chassis ground," in that the entire frame of the vehicle is literally directly connected to the negative post on the battery and is part of the circuit. Anything that needs to go to ground can just be attached straight to the frame, and sometimes OEM components do just that.
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