Warning! Do not take ibuprofen!

[bigdano711]

Here's a drug they gave me for manic depression:


https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugs...701s057lbl.pdf


LOL @ "ACTIONS
The precise mechanism of action has not been clearly established."


I thought science was supposed to be precise? I was taking Lithium, Haldol and Cogentin. I can't find any numbers, of course, but Haldol + Cogentin took out a lot of mentally ill people and I believe it was by design. I was exercising one day, shooting hoops on the basketball court, and I just dropped. Massive chest pain and totally out of it. I was dying, and I was only 20 years old.


Try to rap your head around this: the side effects are the INTENDED effects.

[TominMO]

Originally Posted by bigdano711

Here's a drug they gave me for manic depression:

https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugs...701s057lbl.pdf

LOL @ "ACTIONS
The precise mechanism of action has not been clearly established."

I thought science was supposed to be precise? I was taking Lithium, Haldol and Cogentin. I can't find any numbers, of course, but Haldol + Cogentin took out a lot of mentally ill people and I believe it was by design. I was exercising one day, shooting hoops on the basketball court, and I just dropped. Massive chest pain and totally out of it. I was dying, and I was only 20 years old.

Try to rap your head around this: the side effects are the INTENDED effects.

Yep.

When I was a kid, childhood cancer and autism were extremely rare. Almost nonexistent. Now they are both very common. It wasn't humanity's genetic makeup that changed over a couple of generations. The pharmaceutical companies and medical establishment did this to them. All this Race for the Cure stuff is just theater for the gullible. An obscene joke.

Note last line of my sig. As a matter of pure self-defense, everyone needs to be their own health advocate. If you go to a doctor, go in armed with research. Don't just accept what they say as the word of God. There are crappy doctors and nurses, and uncaring doctors and nurses; and hospitals are bureaucracies that are most concerned with their own well-being.

[TominMO]

From your drug info in post #31:
"Elderly patients with dementia-related psychosis treated with antipsychotic
drugs are at an increased risk of death."

Well if it kills them, then they are no longer psychotic. Problem solved!

Dano, I would suggest having a good talk with a nutritionist and herbal medicine specialist, and try to gradually substitute good quality food and more natural solutions instead of prescription medicines. Since everyone is different physiologically, so is success at this. But worth a try.

[TominMO]

A little update to this thread. Haven't had any serious chest pain since the second episode in mid-November. Just mild pain from moderate exertion, solved by deep breathing. I now know that I have severe coronary artery blockage, and am adding lots of heart/artery specific supplements to address this. I cut out palm oil and even stevia for my coffee, since stevia products that are available here all have erythritol, also known to be bad for the heart. I use a little honey instead.

Today I had to go down into my crawlspace to set up a heater for the coming winter storm, and single-digit temps. Keep it above freezing down there. As a test, I decided to not move slowly and just behave as if I had no issues. Of course I got fairly severe chest pain, but it didn't seem quite as bad as the other two times. And while those times required 30 minutes of bed rest to get me back to normal, this time it only took 10 - 15 minutes. This is encouraging. My hope is that six to twelve months of continuing my new supplement and healthier food choices routine will make this go away altogether. We will see.

[Sport Rider]

Originally Posted by bigdano711

J....He focuses a lot on diet and he has a test that will tell you what your body is deficient in and recommend specific supplements targeting those deficiencies.......

you think the health/supplement industry isn't just as much a "racket" as the medical industry? Capitalism at it's best. "There's a sucker born every minute". It sounds to me like that guy is trying to sell people his "test", and I bet he has his hand in the pie for the supplements he recommends. I don't trust people who aren't trained any more than you probably trust doctors. At least he's a biologist, but I bet that degree in itself doesn't pay all the bills.

[TominMO]

Originally Posted by Sport Rider

you think the health/supplement industry isn't just as much a "racket" as the medical industry? Capitalism at it's best. "There's a sucker born every minute". It sounds to me like that guy is trying to sell people his "test", and I bet he has his hand in the pie for the supplements he recommends. I don't trust people who aren't trained any more than you probably trust doctors. At least he's a biologist, but I bet that degree in itself doesn't pay all the bills.

While health food stores are also in the capitalist system, I have found that the people who work in these stores actually seem to care about people. Not something you can say about the Big Pharma-dominated US medical system. Medical school is expensive, and doctors are forced to toe the pharmacological line to stay in the system that employs them, to get those loans paid off. Expensive drugs, tests and surgery should not be the first line of defense against disease. It should be the universal promotion in schools and the doctor's office of healthy eating habits and exercise. Then when all else fails, the solutions that they currently do first. That would be a system worthy of respect.

Our current medical system is designed to keep you addicted to its services--treat the symptoms--not to make people whole and healthy. They are against any competing type of care which takes away their money and power.

I'm betting that the supplement industry "racket" as you call it will do much more for me, and far cheaper and more conveniently, than the Medical Establishment. Again, we shall see.