new hawk 250 issues - Page 10

Ariel Red Hunter · 01-14-2018, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by thehawk

It's just a rubber spacer, has 6302 on one side. Fits perfectly over the spacer tube. But the outside edge doesn't fit anywhere I can see. It's too big to fit in the middle of the hub, too small to actually got anywhere else. It came out after I had one bearing out and was trying to knock the other side out. I removed the tube, then as I was hitting the other side, this came out with my socket that I was using to try and push the bearing out with. Has 6302 on the side, But the bearings I removed do have there seals on both sides.

I believe that is a centering spacer for the spacer tube. It makes it easier to get the axle spindle lined up with the metal tube, and simplify assembly line work. You will find it a lot easier to re-assemble if you put it back in there. Can you imagine the difficulty of getting it to all line up without the rubber spacer?...ARH

Megadan · 01-14-2018, 06:51 PM

I agree with that assessment. The weird part is, mine was apparently missing lol

thehawk · 01-14-2018, 06:53 PM

Where's it supposed to go? It fits nicely around the tube, but the outside edge doesn't match up to anything. I might be able to force it into the center of the hub if I make it go in kinda crooked, but I don't think its going to go in straight. Does it just sit on the end like it is in the picture above?

thehawk · 01-14-2018, 07:15 PM

If yours was missing, and it still rides fine guess its not something to really worry much about. I think Ill leave it right where it is then. It seems to be the only place it really fits anyways.

thehawk · 01-19-2018, 12:47 PM

Anyone know where I can get a list of ideal torque specs for the bolts? I have some time this weekend and am planning on finishing putting everything back together with locktight on all the places that need it (like the screws that hold on the brakes). But I worry about breaking bolts or stripping things so am looking for the torque specs.

Megadan · 01-19-2018, 01:09 PM

I use the values for most of these parts as posted by CSC for the TT250. You can usually find the values toward the bottom of the articles.

http://www.cscmotorcycles.com/TT250-Tutorials-s/283.htm

Rear brake caliper bolts are 22ft-lbs.
Rear Axle Nut is 35ft-lbs.
Sprocket Nuts/Bolts 35ft-lbs.

Just don't forget to use blue loctite on the bolts.

thehawk · 01-19-2018, 01:31 PM

Oops, forgot to put lock tight on those dang sprocket bolts.... I don't want to take those things back off again. That lock ring holding it on was a pain to get off and reinstall! By any chance, lock tight wont work by just putting it on a already tight bolt will it..

By the way, great link!! that site has a lot of valuable info.

Megadan · 01-19-2018, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thehawk

Oops, forgot to put lock tight on those dang sprocket bolts.... I don't want to take those things back off again. That lock ring holding it on was a pain to get off and reinstall! By any chance, lock tight wont work by just putting it on a already tight bolt will it..

By the way, great link!! that site has a lot of valuable info.

You do need to remove the nuts in order to add loctite, but you shouldn't have to remove the sprocket. Just take the nuts off, add loctite, re-tighten in a criss cross pattern.

By the way, if you go to Habor Freight or Northern Tool, you can pick up a pair of external snap ring pliers for less than 10 bucks. This is the proper tool for the job of removing that snap ring that retains the rear sprocket, and it makes it much easier.

thehawk · 01-20-2018, 02:52 PM

Does anyone have any tips on how to true a tire? Can this be done by yourself? or do I need to take it somewhere?

Ok, so all bearings changed, all greased and lock tighted up (except that head bearing). but, while on the lift I spun the tires. They are not true and wobble. Now, I will be honest and say that the front could have been my fault because I tried tightening the spokes by watching a youtube video (start from air port to have a start/stop point, every 4th spoke all the way around, 1/4 a turn each until tight, then to the second over, then third, then back to spoke closest to air until all are tight), but the back wheel was not done yet (and does have loose spokes still that need to be tightened). Either way, both are out of wack. Any ideals on how to correct this?

pistolclass · 01-20-2018, 03:15 PM

check out this video.

pistolclass · 01-20-2018, 03:17 PM

https://www.harborfreight.com/motorc...and-98488.html

dont forget your 20% off coupon.

Megadan · 01-20-2018, 11:29 PM

That video explains it perfectly. Just be patient. Once you get the wheel trued it should stay that way with regular spoke tightening. Ideally, the wheel should be trued first, and then the tightening method you used to finish it up.

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01-19-2018, 01:09 PM	#141
Megadan Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 7,985	I use the values for most of these parts as posted by CSC for the TT250. You can usually find the values toward the bottom of the articles. http://www.cscmotorcycles.com/TT250-Tutorials-s/283.htm Rear brake caliper bolts are 22ft-lbs. Rear Axle Nut is 35ft-lbs. Sprocket Nuts/Bolts 35ft-lbs. Just don't forget to use blue loctite on the bolts. __________________ Hawk Information and Resource guide: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=20331 2018 Hawk 250 - Full Mod list here. http://www.chinariders.net/showpost....62&postcount=1 2024 Royal Enfield Shotgun 650 https://chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=34124
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01-20-2018, 11:29 PM	#147
Megadan Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 7,985	That video explains it perfectly. Just be patient. Once you get the wheel trued it should stay that way with regular spoke tightening. Ideally, the wheel should be trued first, and then the tightening method you used to finish it up. __________________ Hawk Information and Resource guide: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=20331 2018 Hawk 250 - Full Mod list here. http://www.chinariders.net/showpost....62&postcount=1 2024 Royal Enfield Shotgun 650 https://chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=34124
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01-14-2018, 06:53 PM	#138
thehawk Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 62	Where's it supposed to go? It fits nicely around the tube, but the outside edge doesn't match up to anything. I might be able to force it into the center of the hub if I make it go in kinda crooked, but I don't think its going to go in straight. Does it just sit on the end like it is in the picture above?
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01-14-2018, 07:15 PM	#139
thehawk Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 62	If yours was missing, and it still rides fine guess its not something to really worry much about. I think Ill leave it right where it is then. It seems to be the only place it really fits anyways.
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01-19-2018, 12:47 PM	#140
thehawk Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 62	Anyone know where I can get a list of ideal torque specs for the bolts? I have some time this weekend and am planning on finishing putting everything back together with locktight on all the places that need it (like the screws that hold on the brakes). But I worry about breaking bolts or stripping things so am looking for the torque specs.
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01-19-2018, 01:31 PM	#142
thehawk Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 62	Oops, forgot to put lock tight on those dang sprocket bolts.... I don't want to take those things back off again. That lock ring holding it on was a pain to get off and reinstall! By any chance, lock tight wont work by just putting it on a already tight bolt will it.. By the way, great link!! that site has a lot of valuable info.
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01-20-2018, 02:52 PM	#144
thehawk Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 62	Does anyone have any tips on how to true a tire? Can this be done by yourself? or do I need to take it somewhere? Ok, so all bearings changed, all greased and lock tighted up (except that head bearing). but, while on the lift I spun the tires. They are not true and wobble. Now, I will be honest and say that the front could have been my fault because I tried tightening the spokes by watching a youtube video (start from air port to have a start/stop point, every 4th spoke all the way around, 1/4 a turn each until tight, then to the second over, then third, then back to spoke closest to air until all are tight), but the back wheel was not done yet (and does have loose spokes still that need to be tightened). Either way, both are out of wack. Any ideals on how to correct this?
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01-20-2018, 03:15 PM	#145
pistolclass Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: connecticut Posts: 978	check out this video.
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01-20-2018, 03:17 PM	#146
pistolclass Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: connecticut Posts: 978	https://www.harborfreight.com/motorc...and-98488.html dont forget your 20% off coupon.
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