07-21-2016, 12:35 PM
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07-21-2016, 12:52 PM
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07-21-2016, 04:01 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: NY
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Took a few pics of my TT on Sunday on my local powerline trails just thought i'd share one. Was hoping to get back there more this week, but I need to wait for my rear caliper slider that fell off in the rocks :\
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07-21-2016, 04:19 PM
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07-21-2016, 05:31 PM
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Don't get me wrong, I really like the bike for what it is. I did have the speedo cable snap (already have the replacement, just need to install it), bent the handlebars & foot brake lever, and stripped out the gear shift lever locking screw when adjusting(which was probably my fault)). Overall, I think the bike is really fun, but I really don't want to be working on it all the time. Yes, I bought it to learn how to do my own maintenance, but honestly I only expected to be doing oil changes for the first year or so. I live in Southern California and I wanted desperately for the bike to hold its own on the trails around here so I could show people that you don't need to buy a KTM or Husky to have a good time on the trails. I am hoping I can still do that, but like I said I am beginning to question if that is really going to be possible. I want to be able to get far off the beaten path, do some fairly rough trail riding, and not have to worry if I am going to be able to make it home. What do you guys think? Am I being overly paranoid and have my expectations set too high? Or is this kind of thing normal? |
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07-21-2016, 05:51 PM
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Generally, in engineering, you'll encounter a washtub. What I mean by that is that a graph of incidents of failure start off very high near the introduction/infancy of a product, then drop down to a more-or-less steady level, then come back up at the usual end of life of the item. This is true of cars, appliances, laboratory equipment, and basically anything else that's got moving parts. The graph ends up looking more or less like the profile of a cut away washtub. We're on the far left side of the washtub. Part of the impression you receive from reading these forums is that there are lots of problems. That's true (numerically) but somewhat misleading. The number of failures isn't anywhere near as important as the proportion of owners who encounter failures of one type or another. Now, I agree completely that there are some issues that MUST be addressed by CSC/Zongshen before I'd be comfortable saying that these bikes are as good as the mainstream brands. For example, the odometer issue, the speedometer cable, the front sprockets, the fuel filters, etc. Some of these issues (cable, front sprocket, odometer) are simply issues of somebody or other not looking closely enough at the equipment before shipping it. Other issues (fuel filters, leaky forks) are actual parts failures. I guess what I'm getting at is that I would take what you read here with a grain of salt. I'm basing my thoughts of the motorcycle entirely upon my own experience. However, I take into account the problems others have faced. Since I've done so, I've avoided a few issues like the speedometer cable and I think the bike is reliable enough to ride out in the serious boonies. tl;dr (too long; didn't read) Take the forum posts with a grain of salt and trust your own observations more.
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07-21-2016, 07:04 PM
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07-21-2016, 07:13 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: coastal SC.
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I think the tt250 has had very few real problems
I love this forum because if someone see something even if it is small they report it so you fix it or report back My bike has run great and I would take it on a serious trip but not till after I get 1200kilomilesperhour and break it down and look at and fix all these little things I can find so keep riding and keep reporting But keep in mind that all bike have little problems and you are not looking for them or keeping up with them or comparing them to your bike You have a good machine  just ride it
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07-21-2016, 07:39 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2016
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Breaking a KTM level or handle bar will cost you more than the TT lever or handlebar.
Both will break or bend when falling wrong or hitting a tree. One will only cost you $5 to replace.... |
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07-21-2016, 10:08 PM
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Location: Yuma, Arizona
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As far as it is--cheap enduros need extra love.
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07-22-2016, 12:11 AM
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I agree, 50 state legal is a huge plus. I went with CSC because I heard so many great things about them, and so far they have delivered. I just get a little concerned because I really don't know much about the mechanics of a motorcycle, but one of the reasons I bought it was to learn.
I also have a Honda CRF250L and a Yamaha TTR230. In a lot of ways, the TT250 reminds me more of the Yamaha than the Honda. I tend to do more long, adventure type rides which usually involves small stints of enduro type trails (lots of rocks, steep, rutted, etc) and my other two bikes handle them relatively well. I am hoping that the TT250 will be able to hang with my other bikes on the same trails without any major issues. It seems Zongshen has proven themselves with the RX3 and the Sierra, so I am just curious to see how the TT250 holds up since it is so new. Its funny, I stopped at the store the other day with my brother-in-law riding my CRF250L, and someone stopped and started asking questions about the TT250 and didn't even mention the Honda. Pretty cool if you ask me. |
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07-22-2016, 07:12 AM
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Im pretty satisfied with my tt so far. Other than the sprocket probably being 15 tooth because i cant go over 50 mph, ive had 0 problems with my bike and i havnt done anything to it. Completely bone dry stock. No cable moving and good speedometer Still has the same oil in it that it came with and im at 1.8k kilometers which is when i will do my first oul change to rotella T6. I also havnt done much off roading. Maybe a couple of minutes of it but i only bought it to dabble in off roading and more so commute with it and for i do with it its great. A bit taller than i would like being 5'4 but the aftermarket seat theyre coming out with should help with that!
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07-22-2016, 10:17 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Volcano, Ca
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I guess being a CB veteran-of-sorts, I see things a little differently and a little too "understanding" maybe?
This bike is LIGHTYEARS ahead of what China was offering...even 5 or 6 years ago, regarding quality control, fit and finish, appearance, quality of body plastics, and I can go on and on. Just overall a superior package (with the exception of Q). I mean....the holes line up! You don't need to keep a drill with you just to do minor maintenance. Yes, things bend and break on even my highest priced Japanese bikes I've had, Falling will do that. We do need to keep in mind what it is and what its intention was when it was built.......this is an 1895.00 China trail bike, not a 5000.00 Honda or even more expensive KTM. It's made for street commuting, short trips....and light duty trail riding. If you want to do serious off-roading, boulder hopping, massive hill climbs...this in not the bike and it wasn't intended for it. That said, if you want to go hit some really cool trails, take the ol' lady on a picnic in the woods, find your favorite fishin' hole, do some sight seeing or just commuting to work on something that will hold your lunch and sip gas....this is the bike for you, especially being 50 state and for the money spent. To date, CSC, especially with a massive flood of these going out, has stepped up to the plate on every issue and has backed their product quickly and efficiently. I've had the fuel filter leak and the fork cap weep but that's about it. To me, that's not bad, especially when CSC has responded so quickly to my concerns. This is something we in the China Bike World have NEVER experienced before. Someone on the other end of an email/phone that actually: 1- Responds at all 2- Has parts 3- Ships fast 4- Has yet to haggle a warranty issue or flat deny it, like Superior Power Sports did to me on my Rhino. I feel spoiled for the money I've spent on this TT250. I've never got this good of customer service out of any Japanese bike I've ever owned. It's always been drive to the dealer...wait in the parts line, get treated like I'm a problem or hassle from the 19 year old parts schmuck who thinks he's God's gift to the dirt bike world....just to find out the part's been discontinued because the bike is 5 years old and the new models just came out. I can't tell you how many times this has happened. Yep....so far very happy with the TT250, how it rides and handles for what it is and more importantly, with the folks backing it. Let's also not forget, we may beat these things into submission for what they may not exactly be intended for....but the proven CG motor will be here, puttering along, for a very long time. I like that idea.
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07-22-2016, 01:42 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Weston, CO & Sangre de Cristos
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A timely blog post on the CSC blog. I'd be interested to hear more from these guys on how the bike performed and any issues that may have popped up along the way.
http://californiascooterco.com/blog/?p=22516 Rojo
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07-22-2016, 01:50 PM
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