Qlink offer a new product.

Oengus · 05-05-2010, 07:01 PM

They are the Adventure 250 and the Tour 250.

V-twin cruiser?

No prices on them....no buy now option.

I would have liked to see them offer the 250cc version of the XP/XF thats sold in China....not that I would buy one, but just because I would like to see them sell something I would even consider buying.

Qingqi also offer a 250cc street bike as well, something I would also consider...since both of those have a Suzuki GN250 engine that offers about 20hp.

another V-twin cruiser?

FastDoc · 05-06-2010, 12:21 AM

I saw that. Not much on the website, must be an early release of information.

On the other hand, Megilli was on Q's website for a while and that never panned out for Q Link.

Oengus · 05-06-2010, 08:34 AM

The break may be only marketing?

Has you friend that is a dealer been offered an option from Bennchi?
Does he carry any big four brands?

If the first is yes then the second is yes as well? If the first is no then the second may be the reason.

The megelli is not an ordinary chinese product, they are not really mishandling it but they kind of are.

The megelli IMO should have been marketed as a Megelli and the Bennchi name is uneeded. If they chose to offer the bike through a seperated distribution system then that is totally redundent and does nothting but add unit costs. They can market them seperately but the sharing of distribution is totally neccessary to keep costs down and to ever have any real growth.

Oengus · 05-06-2010, 08:43 AM

If Qlink offered this Hi-bird they would have tugged at my strings but these bikes they are not anything special to me. I think I would rather have a Zongshen Storm and Phil and many other have them and would love to get them out of the showroom all they do is collect dust.

HI-Bird

Oengus · 05-06-2010, 09:01 AM

You know the Sportster is a nice bike, and you can get real nice used one for under $5K what will they be asking for a 250cc cruiser? I bet over $3K and thatâ€™s a lot considering all the other cruisers floating around.

I guess if I got stuck on them I would understand, but I really do not like having by legs out in front.

I like up and down, the racers bother me too that being in back of me.

Then changing may mess you up too? But up and down seem more natural IMO. You can get Sportsters with out in front or straight up and down, its an option.

I love the XR1200!

Weldangrind · 05-06-2010, 10:09 AM

It has been my observation that anyone over six feet needs forward controls on a Sporty. It's difficult to keep your foot placed over the rear brake pedal if your knees are bent too far.

FastDoc · 05-06-2010, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oengus

You know the Sportster is a nice bike, and you can get real nice used one for under $5K what will they be asking for a 250cc cruiser? I bet over $3K and thatâ€™s a lot considering all the other cruisers floating around.

I guess if I got stuck on them I would understand, but I really do not like having by legs out in front.

I like up and down, the racers bother me too that being in back of me.

Then changing may mess you up too? But up and down seem more natural IMO. You can get Sportsters with out in front or straight up and down, its an option.

I love the XR1200!

That bike floats my boat too.

My buddy Andy, owner of Canyon Country Cycle in Kennewick, Washington mostly operates an all-brands repair shop. He also builds custom Harleys, and sells parts and accesories for all brands.

He dabbles in Q's. He's sold a bunch of Rodeo 90 ATV's (I bought one for my (ex)stepson), and big UTV's to the farmers/ranchers out here.

I bought my XF from him too. I sold that, and then he found a good deal on the XP and sold me that for close to his cost, $1,600 out the door. 8)

He also provides Q Link warantee work if needed.

Oengus · 05-06-2010, 09:03 PM

Oh I know....it's a real cool bike and it fits perfect under me!

Do the Hi -Bird products have respectable quality? That bike is EPA/DOT. I believe, wonder if any have been imported?

Heres is the link to their new website.

http://www.hbmusa.us/

:o

They have a v-twin chopper and a odd looking dually and that bike.
I bet their sales people (if they have any) are just lost in the sea of products being offered to every dealer.

The site has been "under construction" for a while, makes me think "I wonder if they could not pay the invoice to for the host server"? They sometimes, outsource the site design and then cannot or do not have anyone that can maintain it, then sometimes they cannot pay the support invoice.

If I was HD I would buy Hi-Bird and then sell the bike in China as Harleys! Charge a premium and even export them, after the Chinese consumers test all bugs out of the bikes. Then when the exchange rate shifts, they can bring the prodcution back and sell small displacement starters bikes and take all the Honda Rebel and china clone customers.

phil · 05-06-2010, 09:28 PM

i havent seen any of that hibird model here or being offered ive never even seen a picture of a real one. but i have talked to the rep, maybe not the same one now but i can say i love it, a lot i like the xr750 style, but see i dont think hd would buy them see zong and hd have a trade agreement or something , and im not sure who would buy who there. btw hibird uses the storm engine. i like this bike but im in love with a cartoon 8O

Oengus · 05-07-2010, 09:01 AM

Here is a B2B site that is attempting to sell the bikes, the Dual Sport is interesting and also ready to be sold in the USA. Seems the Chopper that we have all seen is for sale but these are not in the USA yet, have to wonder why?

http://www.b2btrade.biz/leads_117982/

Are you familiar with TAAL Enterprises? They are in Wise VA, a Hi-bird dealer. 276-328-2408
http://www.readybike.net/view_cycle_...s.php?RID=5657

The cruiser is really nothing unproven, the build would be but the engine is off the shelve. Basically the same as the Storm.

Seems like somebody had a good idea with Hi-Bird USA, the site when it was up had just the three bikes on it the cruiser, chopper and dually. Maybe they are building a real good site? Or its just another attempt gone south, like so many have.

You getting any business from that University? Seems like they may be all green washed by now and buying scooters?

Here is the alibaba page for them, that being Hi-Bird

http://chinaatv.en.alibaba.com/featureproductlist.html

It has the chopper and the dually and the vanilla 250cc street bike that TAAL is attempting to sell.
But no Cruiser, the cruiser is a feeler IMO and I am so surprised nobody with some capital has not gotten hot on bringing that bike to the US, but then again its a very funny market here and flat to say the least.

The Chinese have to do more testing on the road and with control groups, then use that to improve the products. Simply just launching a small amount of bikes and then keeping track of them. A sampling for quality control and then advertising that and the results and any corrective measures documented.

They are to me like the guy that shovels coal into the furnace fast and furious, never stopping to notice the house is on fire.

Oengus · 05-07-2010, 09:23 AM

Loncin has real nice cruiser they call the T.REX

The fit and finish on that is very good, its got a good look to it.

Cal25 · 05-07-2010, 09:32 AM

:?:

Oengus · 05-07-2010, 09:33 AM

I would have reduced the rake and lowered the bars, that bike could have been different. HD is spot on for the next generation with the cafÃ© style bike, the naked street bikes are also very popular. Many people want a more standard riding position and with that comes better maneuverability. Having your arms and legs extended limitâ€™s the range of motion.

Some HD bikes you almost have to let go of one side of the handle bars to make a turn. Fully extended is fully extended, people get used to that and some are accustomed to it, its just not ideal to me.

I guess I am all about standardâ€¦.they seem to be missing from the mix.

phil · 05-07-2010, 12:17 PM

Thats neat, taal ent? i looked them up, by the map i go to church on the other side of the road on the hill, and i have never seen it its a residential area with no business and no buildings for it, and i havent herd anything about them si i would guess its a mistake in the listing heres a picture http://www.manta.com/c/mmnr8xg/taal-enterprises-llc. i think i know the guy who lives there, it may not be mistake, but if its the same guy ill not comment further than i think i would try another source if i was looking :wink:

culcune · 05-10-2010, 12:16 AM

The Hi-Bird cruiser was sold here in the US, and there were a few videos of it on youtube put up by Hi-Bird (the video shows someone from the official Hi-bird USA warehouse in OK ride it up and down the street. The problem was the cost--something like an asking price of $4k!! Someone here found out that one could order a sample, which was closer to $3k, but no one on chinariders ever mentioned buying one.

The Sporter looking bike seemed to never be here, as well as the dual-sport, in spite of the promise it showed. It was a shame because several members had ordered the 250 Hi-Bird GY from VBike, to good review, so even if Hi-Bird had just thrown the EPA-approved engine in that new body (I think they used to hint at a 30hp version when the hbmusa site was up and running) they would have had some happy China riders. Oh well....

05-05-2010, 07:01 PM	#1
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	Qlink offer a new product. They are the Adventure 250 and the Tour 250. V-twin cruiser? No prices on them....no buy now option. I would have liked to see them offer the 250cc version of the XP/XF thats sold in China....not that I would buy one, but just because I would like to see them sell something I would even consider buying. Qingqi also offer a 250cc street bike as well, something I would also consider...since both of those have a Suzuki GN250 engine that offers about 20hp. another V-twin cruiser?
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05-06-2010, 12:21 AM	#2
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	I saw that. Not much on the website, must be an early release of information. On the other hand, Megilli was on Q's website for a while and that never panned out for Q Link. __________________ Happy to serve.
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05-06-2010, 10:09 AM	#6
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	It has been my observation that anyone over six feet needs forward controls on a Sporty. It's difficult to keep your foot placed over the rear brake pedal if your knees are bent too far. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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05-06-2010, 09:28 PM	#9
phil Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: wise va Posts: 636	i havent seen any of that hibird model here or being offered ive never even seen a picture of a real one. but i have talked to the rep, maybe not the same one now but i can say i love it, a lot i like the xr750 style, but see i dont think hd would buy them see zong and hd have a trade agreement or something , and im not sure who would buy who there. btw hibird uses the storm engine. i like this bike but im in love with a cartoon 8O __________________ halls auto l coolster, modcycles, yanmar & zongshen, dealer fired roketa,lifan and jet moto and apollo quit me who's next
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05-07-2010, 12:17 PM	#14
phil Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: wise va Posts: 636	Thats neat, taal ent? i looked them up, by the map i go to church on the other side of the road on the hill, and i have never seen it its a residential area with no business and no buildings for it, and i havent herd anything about them si i would guess its a mistake in the listing heres a picture http://www.manta.com/c/mmnr8xg/taal-enterprises-llc. i think i know the guy who lives there, it may not be mistake, but if its the same guy ill not comment further than i think i would try another source if i was looking :wink: __________________ halls auto l coolster, modcycles, yanmar & zongshen, dealer fired roketa,lifan and jet moto and apollo quit me who's next
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05-06-2010, 08:34 AM	#3
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	The break may be only marketing? Has you friend that is a dealer been offered an option from Bennchi? Does he carry any big four brands? If the first is yes then the second is yes as well? If the first is no then the second may be the reason. The megelli is not an ordinary chinese product, they are not really mishandling it but they kind of are. The megelli IMO should have been marketed as a Megelli and the Bennchi name is uneeded. If they chose to offer the bike through a seperated distribution system then that is totally redundent and does nothting but add unit costs. They can market them seperately but the sharing of distribution is totally neccessary to keep costs down and to ever have any real growth.
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05-06-2010, 08:43 AM	#4
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	If Qlink offered this Hi-bird they would have tugged at my strings but these bikes they are not anything special to me. I think I would rather have a Zongshen Storm and Phil and many other have them and would love to get them out of the showroom all they do is collect dust. HI-Bird
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05-06-2010, 09:01 AM	#5
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	You know the Sportster is a nice bike, and you can get real nice used one for under $5K what will they be asking for a 250cc cruiser? I bet over $3K and thatâ€™s a lot considering all the other cruisers floating around. I guess if I got stuck on them I would understand, but I really do not like having by legs out in front. I like up and down, the racers bother me too that being in back of me. Then changing may mess you up too? But up and down seem more natural IMO. You can get Sportsters with out in front or straight up and down, its an option. I love the XR1200!
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05-06-2010, 09:03 PM	#8
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	Oh I know....it's a real cool bike and it fits perfect under me! Do the Hi -Bird products have respectable quality? That bike is EPA/DOT. I believe, wonder if any have been imported? Heres is the link to their new website. http://www.hbmusa.us/ :o They have a v-twin chopper and a odd looking dually and that bike. I bet their sales people (if they have any) are just lost in the sea of products being offered to every dealer. The site has been "under construction" for a while, makes me think "I wonder if they could not pay the invoice to for the host server"? They sometimes, outsource the site design and then cannot or do not have anyone that can maintain it, then sometimes they cannot pay the support invoice. If I was HD I would buy Hi-Bird and then sell the bike in China as Harleys! Charge a premium and even export them, after the Chinese consumers test all bugs out of the bikes. Then when the exchange rate shifts, they can bring the prodcution back and sell small displacement starters bikes and take all the Honda Rebel and china clone customers.
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05-07-2010, 09:01 AM	#10
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	Here is a B2B site that is attempting to sell the bikes, the Dual Sport is interesting and also ready to be sold in the USA. Seems the Chopper that we have all seen is for sale but these are not in the USA yet, have to wonder why? http://www.b2btrade.biz/leads_117982/ Are you familiar with TAAL Enterprises? They are in Wise VA, a Hi-bird dealer. 276-328-2408 http://www.readybike.net/view_cycle_...s.php?RID=5657 The cruiser is really nothing unproven, the build would be but the engine is off the shelve. Basically the same as the Storm. Seems like somebody had a good idea with Hi-Bird USA, the site when it was up had just the three bikes on it the cruiser, chopper and dually. Maybe they are building a real good site? Or its just another attempt gone south, like so many have. You getting any business from that University? Seems like they may be all green washed by now and buying scooters? Here is the alibaba page for them, that being Hi-Bird http://chinaatv.en.alibaba.com/featureproductlist.html It has the chopper and the dually and the vanilla 250cc street bike that TAAL is attempting to sell. But no Cruiser, the cruiser is a feeler IMO and I am so surprised nobody with some capital has not gotten hot on bringing that bike to the US, but then again its a very funny market here and flat to say the least. The Chinese have to do more testing on the road and with control groups, then use that to improve the products. Simply just launching a small amount of bikes and then keeping track of them. A sampling for quality control and then advertising that and the results and any corrective measures documented. They are to me like the guy that shovels coal into the furnace fast and furious, never stopping to notice the house is on fire.
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05-07-2010, 09:23 AM	#11
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	Loncin has real nice cruiser they call the T.REX The fit and finish on that is very good, its got a good look to it.
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05-07-2010, 09:32 AM	#12
Cal25 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Terrell and Grapevine Tx. Posts: 1,585	:?:
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05-07-2010, 09:33 AM	#13
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	I would have reduced the rake and lowered the bars, that bike could have been different. HD is spot on for the next generation with the cafÃ© style bike, the naked street bikes are also very popular. Many people want a more standard riding position and with that comes better maneuverability. Having your arms and legs extended limitâ€™s the range of motion. Some HD bikes you almost have to let go of one side of the handle bars to make a turn. Fully extended is fully extended, people get used to that and some are accustomed to it, its just not ideal to me. I guess I am all about standardâ€¦.they seem to be missing from the mix.
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05-10-2010, 12:16 AM	#15
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,035	The Hi-Bird cruiser was sold here in the US, and there were a few videos of it on youtube put up by Hi-Bird (the video shows someone from the official Hi-bird USA warehouse in OK ride it up and down the street. The problem was the cost--something like an asking price of $4k!! Someone here found out that one could order a sample, which was closer to $3k, but no one on chinariders ever mentioned buying one. The Sporter looking bike seemed to never be here, as well as the dual-sport, in spite of the promise it showed. It was a shame because several members had ordered the 250 Hi-Bird GY from VBike, to good review, so even if Hi-Bird had just thrown the EPA-approved engine in that new body (I think they used to hint at a 30hp version when the hbmusa site was up and running) they would have had some happy China riders. Oh well....
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