YinXiang

Oengus · 09-27-2010, 11:56 PM

The same manufacturer that makes the HYOSUNG Comet, is advertising a what looks like a copy of the TW200?

They call it a YX-LT200 here are the only pictures they offer, and there is some inconsistency on the specs, it says air cooled yet the image shows what looks like oil coolers.

Comet

That is Yin Xiang; In year 2002, YINXIANG group joint venture with HYOSUNG motors & machine Inc Korea, as Chongqing Hyosung Motorcycle Corporation Limited, and imports new motorcycle models and technologies of manufacturing from Korea.

http://www.yinxianggroup.com/

FastDoc · 09-28-2010, 12:28 AM

That sure looks like a Trail Way. Spud's gonna be interested in that. I love the little V-Twin!

Oengus · 09-28-2010, 12:32 AM

http://www.tradekey.com/product_view/id/1114775.htm

It's interesting that they advertise that bike for sale on the tradekey B2B site.

http://751248727.en.ec21.com/company_info.jsp

Those are more advanced engines....that v-twin also has a very powerful 125cc half version of it. A 125cc DOHC 4-valve that has a very good hp rating. The twin offers about 30hp and the single about 15hp.

Here is a Yin Xiang 233cc that has four valves?

20hp @ 8000 rpm

Oengus · 09-28-2010, 12:41 AM

I am so sure it is a TW200 and wonder why they are advertising it? I see the emblem on the tank.

TurboT · 09-28-2010, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Oengus

I am so sure it is a TW200 and wonder why they are advertising it? I see the emblem on the tank.

I think you need a 'sample'

mizke · 09-28-2010, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Oengus

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Those are more advanced engines....that v-twin also has a very powerful 125cc half version of it. A 125cc DOHC 4-valve that has a very good hp rating. The twin offers about 30hp and the single about 15hp.

Here is a Yin Xiang 233cc that has four valves?

20hp @ 8000 rpm

that looks like it would be a direct bolt into the beast frame, based on the front motor mount bolt holes..hmmmm that motor would look good in a quad and bump the power up from 13 to 20

Oengus · 09-28-2010, 01:03 AM

Is that there version of the Karion?

Oengus · 09-28-2010, 01:12 AM

Actually Evosales needs to get samples and stop thinking so cheap!

Buy mixed container full of some cool bikes.....then make sure they all have parts books and service manuals....oh yeah and mirrors.

Cal25 · 09-28-2010, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oengus

Actually Evosales needs to get samples and stop thinking so cheap!

Buy mixed container full of some cool bikes.....then make sure they all have parts books and service manuals....oh yeah and mirrors.

Dont forget the EPA certs. In the video on the Sachs Madass, the guy said they invested about $100,000 on the EPA certification.

Oengus · 09-30-2010, 12:00 AM

Here is step one?
http://www.epa.gov/otaq/regs/roadbik...eviewsheet.pdf

Makes me wonder how much that is worth? A check list that breaks it all out and even references the specific sections of the regulations.

Considering that most of the engines that the Chinese manufacturer exist in compliant versions in the market how difficult is it to find a GY6 that is complainant....

I am being silly here but maybe this might help...
http://www.epa.gov/otaq/regs/roadbik...s-hmc-cert.pdf

If the whole process costs $100,000.00 I must be at a few hundred by now?

Oengus · 09-30-2010, 12:05 AM

This is interesting...sort of.

http://www.epa.gov/otaq/regs/roadbike/420f03046.pdf

Oengus · 09-30-2010, 12:12 AM

here is the EPA page,
http://www.epa.gov/otaq/roadbike.htm#Verify_CDX

I am trying to find the list of conforming models....I know it exists but I have not found it yet.

If they offered a search engine for vehicles that are already approved then importers could access them easier.

But part of the compliance for 2010 is a service manual, I am sure I seen that on the power point slide....

Oengus · 09-30-2010, 12:45 AM

I am sure that people can access that website themselves and see that manufacturer is partnered with Hyosung.
They have this bike as an image on one page.

Thatâ€™s the Hyosung GV650.â€¦

There are some other models they have added to the sightâ€¦.they have a very wide selection of CUBS which typically have a GY6 engine, like the SACH.

So one certificate could cover all those if equipped with the same GY6 engine and controls. Its not that CUB's are not popular in the USA its that people are not that acquainted with themâ€¦.the SACH is a CUB. Making a SACH version would take what a weekend? Conversely if it is configured to meet EPA then so can any version of it.

Oengus · 09-30-2010, 01:15 AM

Who makes this?

I hate to say it but some of the eastern block countries think they are being made domestically? Maybe they are but I really would bet that they are being made in china.

Oengus · 09-30-2010, 01:37 AM

Daelim has a bike made by Shineray they call it the Roadwin and offer it under there name in the USA but only as a 4 valve 125cc? They offer no HP or TQâ€¦but Shineray is attempting to sell it as well in a 250cc version. The kicker is that Daelim has it for $3,290.00 MSRP!
http://www.daelimusa.com/guia/comerc...tml/inicio.htm

Same bikeâ€¦.listed here for import. $1,280.00
http://www.fastglobalsupplier.com/ca...category_id=83
And a 250cc version (232cc) 16.32 hp for $1,220.00

Its crazyâ€¦.

How about a 200cc version for $1,180.00?

They cannot do it, it is not the EPA its that nobody can figure out how to market and distribute them?

09-27-2010, 11:56 PM	#1
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	YinXiang The same manufacturer that makes the HYOSUNG Comet, is advertising a what looks like a copy of the TW200? They call it a YX-LT200 here are the only pictures they offer, and there is some inconsistency on the specs, it says air cooled yet the image shows what looks like oil coolers. Comet That is Yin Xiang; In year 2002, YINXIANG group joint venture with HYOSUNG motors & machine Inc Korea, as Chongqing Hyosung Motorcycle Corporation Limited, and imports new motorcycle models and technologies of manufacturing from Korea. http://www.yinxianggroup.com/
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09-28-2010, 12:28 AM	#2
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	That sure looks like a Trail Way. Spud's gonna be interested in that. I love the little V-Twin! __________________ Happy to serve.
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09-28-2010, 12:32 AM	#3
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	http://www.tradekey.com/product_view/id/1114775.htm It's interesting that they advertise that bike for sale on the tradekey B2B site. http://751248727.en.ec21.com/company_info.jsp Those are more advanced engines....that v-twin also has a very powerful 125cc half version of it. A 125cc DOHC 4-valve that has a very good hp rating. The twin offers about 30hp and the single about 15hp. Here is a Yin Xiang 233cc that has four valves? 20hp @ 8000 rpm
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09-28-2010, 12:41 AM	#4
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	I am so sure it is a TW200 and wonder why they are advertising it? I see the emblem on the tank.
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09-28-2010, 01:03 AM	#7
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	Is that there version of the Karion?
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09-28-2010, 01:12 AM	#8
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	Actually Evosales needs to get samples and stop thinking so cheap! Buy mixed container full of some cool bikes.....then make sure they all have parts books and service manuals....oh yeah and mirrors.
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09-30-2010, 12:00 AM	#10
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	Here is step one? http://www.epa.gov/otaq/regs/roadbik...eviewsheet.pdf Makes me wonder how much that is worth? A check list that breaks it all out and even references the specific sections of the regulations. Considering that most of the engines that the Chinese manufacturer exist in compliant versions in the market how difficult is it to find a GY6 that is complainant.... I am being silly here but maybe this might help... http://www.epa.gov/otaq/regs/roadbik...s-hmc-cert.pdf If the whole process costs $100,000.00 I must be at a few hundred by now?
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09-30-2010, 12:05 AM	#11
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	This is interesting...sort of. http://www.epa.gov/otaq/regs/roadbike/420f03046.pdf
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09-30-2010, 12:12 AM	#12
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	here is the EPA page, http://www.epa.gov/otaq/roadbike.htm#Verify_CDX I am trying to find the list of conforming models....I know it exists but I have not found it yet. If they offered a search engine for vehicles that are already approved then importers could access them easier. But part of the compliance for 2010 is a service manual, I am sure I seen that on the power point slide....
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09-30-2010, 12:45 AM	#13
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	I am sure that people can access that website themselves and see that manufacturer is partnered with Hyosung. They have this bike as an image on one page. Thatâ€™s the Hyosung GV650.â€¦ There are some other models they have added to the sightâ€¦.they have a very wide selection of CUBS which typically have a GY6 engine, like the SACH. So one certificate could cover all those if equipped with the same GY6 engine and controls. Its not that CUB's are not popular in the USA its that people are not that acquainted with themâ€¦.the SACH is a CUB. Making a SACH version would take what a weekend? Conversely if it is configured to meet EPA then so can any version of it.
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09-30-2010, 01:15 AM	#14
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	Who makes this? I hate to say it but some of the eastern block countries think they are being made domestically? Maybe they are but I really would bet that they are being made in china.
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09-30-2010, 01:37 AM	#15
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	Daelim has a bike made by Shineray they call it the Roadwin and offer it under there name in the USA but only as a 4 valve 125cc? They offer no HP or TQâ€¦but Shineray is attempting to sell it as well in a 250cc version. The kicker is that Daelim has it for $3,290.00 MSRP! http://www.daelimusa.com/guia/comerc...tml/inicio.htm Same bikeâ€¦.listed here for import. $1,280.00 http://www.fastglobalsupplier.com/ca...category_id=83 And a 250cc version (232cc) 16.32 hp for $1,220.00 Its crazyâ€¦. How about a 200cc version for $1,180.00? They cannot do it, it is not the EPA its that nobody can figure out how to market and distribute them?
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